“meat By-products” Good Or Bad?

[1 bruce 1]

Sometimes farm animals are Euthanized too. Cows, horses, sheep, goats, pigs, it happens. I would imagine the phenobarbital came from one of those animals, not cats or dogs. At least i hope so.

With very small farms, they sometimes are (horses especially) euthanized with a drug, but in most larger scale operations, euthanasia = a bullet.

 

[2BSH]

Have you tried Bravo? Its one i was thinking to try. not crazy about Agar-Agar, but hard to find food without something im not fond of

Bravo! Feline Cafe Chicken Fricassee Grain-Free Canned Cat Food, 5.5-oz, case of 24

I'll have to check it out. My piggies are the ones that will have to make the ultimate decision though

 

[2BSH]

I have a question about this. I've heard this multiple times, but I'm confused about how the remains of shelter animals would get into the food supply.

Are there allegations that some shelters are selling dead animals to food producers? If so, have those allegations ever been substantiated with proof? Is there some type of paper trail or has someone admitted doing so?

I'm not saying I think it's true or not true, my question is "How would that actually happen and has it been proven?"

That's a really good question.

 

[2BSH]

I'm not saying that Feline Natural is specifically a "right" food for everyone (my cat only decides it is "right" a few times a month, lol), but all those generic by-products are listed out on the label for this food, as an example, just like other posters have mentioned about certain brands.

Feline Natural Chicken and Lamb:
"Chicken, Lamb Heart, Lamb Kidney, Lamb Liver, Lamb Blood, Flaxseed Flakes, New Zealand Green Mussel, Dried Kelp, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Magnesium Oxide, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid. Water added for processing"

I'd much rather have by-products listed out on a label than not listed. In fact, for this food above, lamb blood is listed but some pet owners don't specifically want animal blood in their pet's canned food (if they know it's there). Blood can be nutritious but I don't think there is any required quality control or regulations for animal blood in commercial pet foods... so I guess one would wonder if that 'meat by-product' came from an ill animal or not. Depends on the known quality control of the brand.

That does look good. Any idea on the carb count? I wish I could go buy a can somewhere and try it. I bet it costs an arm and a leg and a part of my kidney

 

[duckpond]

I tried feline natural, my guys did not like it. Its not cheap.
I got it from only natural pets. you can order by the can.

Feline Natural Canned Cat Food

 

[2BSH]

Have you tried Bravo? Its one i was thinking to try. not crazy about Agar-Agar, but hard to find food without something im not fond of

Bravo! Feline Cafe Chicken Fricassee Grain-Free Canned Cat Food, 5.5-oz, case of 24

I tried feline natural, my guys did not like it. Its not cheap.
I got it from only natural pets. you can order by the can.

Feline Natural Canned Cat Food

Thank you for the tip. I'll eventually have to try it.

 

[duckpond]

Thank you for the tip. I'll eventually have to try it.

Big bad woof may have it cheaper to try. i have had good luck with them as well.

K9 Naturals Grain-free Wet Cat Food

 

[2BSH]

Big bad woof may have it cheaper to try. i have had good luck with them as well.

K9 Naturals Grain-free Wet Cat Food

That food looks really good. Any idea of the carbohydrate count?

 

[2BSH]

Meat by product comes from dead zoo animals, road kill, kill shelter meat of other dead cats and dogs. And unwanted meat left behind at cow, horse... slaughter houses.

That's a horrifying thought and I hope not true. Although I don't have much faith in pet food companies unfortunately. I know legally they are not supposed to include that in pet food. I'm going back and forth on this issue.

 

[2BSH]

Have you tried Bravo? Its one i was thinking to try. not crazy about Agar-Agar, but hard to find food without something im not fond of

Bravo! Feline Cafe Chicken Fricassee Grain-Free Canned Cat Food, 5.5-oz, case of 24

Green lipped muscles?? It looks great other than that. I guess thos are better than several gums? Once I go through my current stash of food and am in a mood to experiment I'll definitely try the bravo! And feline natural. I'll try to get a few cans to try.

 

[PushPurrCatPaws]

I tried feline natural, my guys did not like it. Its not cheap.
I got it from only natural pets. you can order by the can.

Feline Natural Canned Cat Food

Yeah, there is something about New Zealand-based foods that my current cat does not like... she usually makes a wide berth around her food dish when things like ZiwiPeak and Addiction are in it. That chicken and lamb flavor of Feline Naturals is the only New Zealand based food she'll sometimes eat. And yeah, the expense is a turn-off.
-agree-

 

[KarenKat]

I bet it costs an arm and a leg and a part of my kidney

It just may, but you would need to label your arm and leg as "2BSH Meat" and your kidney would be part of "2BSH by-products."

 

[Daisy6]

Sometimes farm animals are Euthanized too. Cows, horses, sheep, goats, pigs, it happens. I would imagine the phenobarbital came from one of those animals, not cats or dogs. At least i hope so.

Important correction: The drug is pentobarbital. Phenobarbital is an oral epilepsy drug that can be prescribed for cats.

 

[2BSH]

It just may, but you would need to label your arm and leg as "2BSH Meat" and your kidney would be part of "2BSH by-products."

Oh my goodness that’s hilarious. I’m dying laughing over here. At least it would be a named by product lol

 

[2BSH]

Yeah, there is something about New Zealand-based foods that my current cat does not like... she usually makes a wide berth around her food dish when things like ZiwiPeak and Addiction are in it. That chicken and lamb flavor of Feline Naturals is the only New Zealand based food she'll sometimes eat. And yeah, the expense is a turn-off.
-agree-

Yeah the price point is a bit much, regardless I’m sure my cats would object as well.

 

[1 bruce 1]

It just may, but you would need to label your arm and leg as "2BSH Meat" and your kidney would be part of "2BSH by-products."

Gave me a huge laugh, thanks!!!! =D
Wait, wouldn't the arm and leg "2BSH Meat" have to have a notation that it includes bone?

 

[1 bruce 1]

Oh my goodness that’s hilarious. I’m dying laughing over here. At least it would be a named by product lol

If you're free range or grass fed, it just gets better!!!

 

[2BSH]

If you're free range or grass fed, it just gets better!!!

Hehehe. I’m definitely free range I don’t regularly graze on grass though.

 

[1 bruce 1]

Hehehe. I’m definitely free range I don’t regularly graze on grass though.

This is almost as good as the toast thread! =D

 

[PushPurrCatPaws]

Green lipped muscles?? It looks great other than that. ...

There are several cat foods that have green lipped mussels in them. It's the 'new thing', I suppose. ZiwiPeak told me that it helps increase the taurine in their foods...
Why is Taurine not listed as an ingredient in your cat cans? I thought it was required in a feline diet? | Ziwi Pets
New ZiwiPeak Formula?

another example, this page from Red Barn has its own laudations...
Why New Zealand Green Mussels are a Superfood For Your Pet - Redbarn Pet Products Blog