I did it with my dog, too. . .it's a good way to kill hours and hours and hours, LOL XD. It's amazing how different the early representatives of the breed looked. Are there pictures for cats, too? I should try to find some old cat pics, that would be cool.That would be great,thanks.
Happy hunting, l enjoyed doing my dog, as the databases also contain pictures from way, way back. l took hours poring through it all.
That is SO true - it really was enlightening. My dog is a Pomeranian, and the very early Pomeranians were tall, leggy and longer-snouted. Mine has the chunky teddy-bear look. lt's amazing the difference 40 or 50 years made.
I have a good start with my breeder's records going back to 1967, and I think a long time ago she said she had some documentation from the Isle of Mann in her bloodline.That would be great,thanks.
Happy hunting, l enjoyed doing my dog, as the databases also contain pictures from way, way back. l took hours poring through it all.
That's so true. There are several Manx stamps from the Isle, these are very old and they have more of a lean rather than the cobby look of today. Manx is a very old breed and is the symbol of the Isle of Mann.
Oh the show titles and EMS-codes! Sure. Here's the list of Fifé's EMS-codes, your Russian pedigree seems to follow them (is it your Foldies? My foldie's mother is Russian and her pedigree is also with regular EMS-codes, I have a copy of it). http://fifeweb.org/wp/breeds/breeds_ems.php Scroll down to part 5.
That's brilliant Northern Glow. Thank you!
Thanks to you both for answering my question! NG, I especially appreciate the portion about the rules and consequences. This, to me, was the heart of the matter. Shady individuals will always seek ways to maximize their gains by taking advantage in any way they can. I suppose cat hoarders in the 'moggie-world' could fall under that category--they willingly and often knowingly break the law so they can keep so many cats. I know it's because of sickness, but there are legal agencies in place that investigate that type of thing. I was wondering what type of regulation or fail-safe is in place to weed out unscrupulous breeders. So thanks for bringing it up.
The humane society makes drop in visits on my breeder's cattery and conducts inspections. Another check and balance since they are a registered business, with website, federal tax ID, etc.
But this is why some are against even the purest of breeding and view "for the betterment of the breed" skeptically. Why is the standard now better than it was 40 years ago? (for dog or cat, either one). One reads so much about how pugs and Persians, for example, can barely breathe now because the "fashion" of what is considered standard has changed so much. Not to mention the narrow hips of GSDs, and so on?
San Francisco CA was considering a ban on all live pet sales a couple of years ago, but I never heard any more about it. This is the original story and I can't find anything more current:
Much is up to the country's head office, which will inform FIFé's main office if needed. Doesn't often go to that as far as I know. The Finnish FIFé club is "famous" for having it's own, even more strict rules added to the official international rules. This country is so small that everybody knows everybody, specially within their breed of choice, so the word spreads fast. Of course if it's actual animal cruelty the matter is handled by the police. We've had FIFé here since the 60's, whereas TICA & CFA just few years, so cat people are still getting used to them and most are still sticking with FIFé or at least breed by their rules even if their prefix is somewhere else.
Yes, I'm very skeptical about "bettering the breed" and breeding for show fashions. But i would consider responsible breeding to include NOT breeding for traits that lower quality of life. Even if it is the current show fad and they may not win as many prizes.
Thanks for this. It gives me a more complete picture of how things work.
And therein lies my personal question about breed standards, for both dogs and cats. For Folds, back in the 60s there were single folds, then they were bred to be more extreme and became double. Now their ears are pressed flat against their heads in triple-folds. My pet-quality kitten doesn't have the skull cap look, since l'm not honestly a fan of Folds, lol
Yes! In Rotts, early on in the breed's history, there are about 3 generations in which only one male was used
. I guess that's how breed type gets set. . . .but that's also how breed specific genetic illnesses become set :/.
They pay very steep membership fees to belong to the registry, I can ask my breeder directly how much but it might be too nosy of a question.
Yikes!! LOL. It was worse back in the establishment phase probably. My dog's pedigree "looks" healthy - there are many dogs from the same breeders, but every dog on the page is different. But what isn't shown (it goes up to the great-great-grandparents) is that 4 out of 8 of the maternal g-g-grandparents were sired by the same dog. 2 of the others were sired by a different same dog. Looking at the highest (huge) champions on this page, there was massive inbreeding to achieve this look. l made a chart of all the dogs past the great-great-grandparents to see how prevalent it was, and was surprisedYes! In Rotts, early on in the breed's history, there are about 3 generations in which only one male was used. I guess that's how breed type gets set. . . .but that's also how breed specific genetic illnesses become set :/.
No need to ask your breeder on my behalf; I've read the fees on the CFA website and understand that it's expensive to buy unaltered pedigree cats for breeding.
