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Male Cat Has Not Urinated In Two Days? No Other Symptoms
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Thank you again to everybody for your feedback and information! 
Rosco is due for his annual examination soon, and he usually provides a fecal sample in the carrier on the way to the Vet. Poor thing. Anyway, I will get a sample from Leo as well and take it in at the same time. We'll see if anything shows up this time around.
Yesterday, I started them on Bene-Bac which I got from the Vet. Fingers crossed!
Way back when, I was given ProGut for Leo while he was boarded for metronidazole and tylosan (sp?) administration. I don't do well pilling them, and they of course don't like it either. And now they're too smart for pill pockets! Neither helped and the most recent metronidazole for Leo gave him unpleasant side effects so we stopped.
Sometimes I feel like an ineffective meowmy when it comes to things like that. And my mother can't help in that way. Sigh...
Thank you again for reading and your support. I hope I can get their diarrhea under control so their GI / tummies are feeling better. I don't like knowing they might be in pain or discomfort.
Rosco is due for his annual examination soon, and he usually provides a fecal sample in the carrier on the way to the Vet. Poor thing. Anyway, I will get a sample from Leo as well and take it in at the same time. We'll see if anything shows up this time around.
Yesterday, I started them on Bene-Bac which I got from the Vet. Fingers crossed!
Way back when, I was given ProGut for Leo while he was boarded for metronidazole and tylosan (sp?) administration. I don't do well pilling them, and they of course don't like it either. And now they're too smart for pill pockets! Neither helped and the most recent metronidazole for Leo gave him unpleasant side effects so we stopped.
Sometimes I feel like an ineffective meowmy when it comes to things like that. And my mother can't help in that way. Sigh...
Thank you again for reading and your support. I hope I can get their diarrhea under control so their GI / tummies are feeling better. I don't like knowing they might be in pain or discomfort.
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I can understand your anxiety. I had to put my cat to sleep because of this issue and I discovered it too late. The signs I would look for is a cat going to the litter tray frequently and nothing coming out. Also licking their penis excessively.
I totally feel your pain! I have GAD and when my cat had litter box issues I thought I was going to lose my mind. Hang in there, keep breathing, and keep a gentle eye on your little man and it will be ok. He might need a food made for urinary health (helped mine a bunch) or a water fountain to help him drink more. Just remember depression and anxiety make things that are not really happening seem real (or it does for me at least). It is like instead of rose colored glasses you are wearing anxiety colored glasses 
Sometimes you just have to say to yourself when you start to go down a worry spiral 'YOU ARE NOT REAL" and look at what is right in front of you (aka two happy kitties). Take care of yourself, lean on your mom and hang in there-you will all be ok
Sometimes you just have to say to yourself when you start to go down a worry spiral 'YOU ARE NOT REAL" and look at what is right in front of you (aka two happy kitties). Take care of yourself, lean on your mom and hang in there-you will all be ok- Thread Starter Thread Starter
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Hi everybody,
Here's a wee update on my boys:
I took Rosco for his annual examination today and submitted a stool sample for that PCR fecal panel test. We tried to get a sample from Leo back in October/November, but I couldn't get a clean enough sample from him at the time. Anyway, I should hear back in a few days and Vet said it's fine if one cat does the test since its pricey plus they share litter boxes and such, so both will have to be treated for anything that might be found.
Rosco seemed well other than anxiety that he always gets on the way to the Vet. As per Vet, aside from getting to the bottom of the farty soft poo issues, he appears fine. Poor thing was panting and drooling on the way there and back. I've provided an extra water bowl and he's been drinking lots today and eating well. I've just let him be to recover from all the action today.
I have a concern, though, which I addressed with the Vet as well. When I adopted him in April 2015, and took him for a baseline checkup, he was around 4.5kg. The he went up to 5.9kg a few months later probably as I was overfeeding (since my other cat Leo got tubby, too) oops! Since then, though, he's been steadily shedding weight and he's now at 5.0kg. Vet said to try and feed him more to see if he's able to put on weight to begin with, otherwise more tests. And then I remember him having said something about white blood count being a little off, but nothing to worry at the time. That was from another appointment some time ago, but I didn't remember that part until I got home. I'll mention it when he calls with PCR results. I'm already worried as I had to say goodbye to another boy of mine due to drastic weight loss (and multiple growths around vital organs) and don't want the same to happen here/again.
I've started school again and I'm feeling so much pressure between that, CBT (therapy) and my cats' issues. I'm going to see my own doctor this week as well as I think I need back on my meds. Anyway, just sharing the complete picture.
Sorry for continuing on this thread. Not sure of posting etiquette on this site. All info is here so I didn't know/think of starting another thread because of that.
Thanks for reading, everybody. I hope the Vet can get to the bottom of this farty poo issue that they're both having. It's gotta be something transmittable vs a disease that they both happened to get at the same time, right? I'm so scared either way. My boys and my mom are all I have in my life right now.
Ok now I'm done for real. Until next time <3
Here's a wee update on my boys:
I took Rosco for his annual examination today and submitted a stool sample for that PCR fecal panel test. We tried to get a sample from Leo back in October/November, but I couldn't get a clean enough sample from him at the time. Anyway, I should hear back in a few days and Vet said it's fine if one cat does the test since its pricey plus they share litter boxes and such, so both will have to be treated for anything that might be found.
Rosco seemed well other than anxiety that he always gets on the way to the Vet. As per Vet, aside from getting to the bottom of the farty soft poo issues, he appears fine. Poor thing was panting and drooling on the way there and back. I've provided an extra water bowl and he's been drinking lots today and eating well. I've just let him be to recover from all the action today.
I have a concern, though, which I addressed with the Vet as well. When I adopted him in April 2015, and took him for a baseline checkup, he was around 4.5kg. The he went up to 5.9kg a few months later probably as I was overfeeding (since my other cat Leo got tubby, too) oops! Since then, though, he's been steadily shedding weight and he's now at 5.0kg. Vet said to try and feed him more to see if he's able to put on weight to begin with, otherwise more tests. And then I remember him having said something about white blood count being a little off, but nothing to worry at the time. That was from another appointment some time ago, but I didn't remember that part until I got home. I'll mention it when he calls with PCR results. I'm already worried as I had to say goodbye to another boy of mine due to drastic weight loss (and multiple growths around vital organs) and don't want the same to happen here/again.
I've started school again and I'm feeling so much pressure between that, CBT (therapy) and my cats' issues. I'm going to see my own doctor this week as well as I think I need back on my meds. Anyway, just sharing the complete picture.
Sorry for continuing on this thread. Not sure of posting etiquette on this site. All info is here so I didn't know/think of starting another thread because of that.
Thanks for reading, everybody. I hope the Vet can get to the bottom of this farty poo issue that they're both having. It's gotta be something transmittable vs a disease that they both happened to get at the same time, right? I'm so scared either way. My boys and my mom are all I have in my life right now.
Ok now I'm done for real. Until next time <3
This is YOUR thread to write on as much and as often as you need, forever. 
I'm still concerned about worms as they won't show up on a PCR test, and if it were me I'd just get them double worm medicine, regardless. Worms cause weight loss. And the other symptoms you've mentioned. I'm surprised at your vet for not double worming your cats but instead undertaking expensive tests. But, I've my fingers crossed for the test results.
I wish YOU well.
I'm still concerned about worms as they won't show up on a PCR test, and if it were me I'd just get them double worm medicine, regardless. Worms cause weight loss. And the other symptoms you've mentioned. I'm surprised at your vet for not double worming your cats but instead undertaking expensive tests. But, I've my fingers crossed for the test results.
I wish YOU well.
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Thank you
Brian007
and good idea, I will bring up the double deworming to be on the safe side when I get the call with PCR results. That's easy to administer right? The liquid squeezed onto their necks/scruffs? I haven't done that since Rosco's adoption that I recall, but I did with Leo and Tommy.
On another note, I'm reconsidering free-feeding dry food, so that it's there during the day to hopefully encourage Rosco to eat more. I just hope Leo doesn't hog it all. Not sure how to balance Leo's need to drop some tubbiness vs trying to fatten up Rosco. I just know that increasing dry should help with weight, that's how most cats get chunky, right? Le sigh...
Thank you again
Brian007
and good idea, I will bring up the double deworming to be on the safe side when I get the call with PCR results. That's easy to administer right? The liquid squeezed onto their necks/scruffs? I haven't done that since Rosco's adoption that I recall, but I did with Leo and Tommy. On another note, I'm reconsidering free-feeding dry food, so that it's there during the day to hopefully encourage Rosco to eat more. I just hope Leo doesn't hog it all. Not sure how to balance Leo's need to drop some tubbiness vs trying to fatten up Rosco. I just know that increasing dry should help with weight, that's how most cats get chunky, right? Le sigh...
Thank you again
Not to worry we LOVE hearing from you! About the dry food, is there any way you could give Roscoe his portion of kibble separately? That's probably not really going to help, you don't have a lot of time available to sit with him... There's another way to do this but I don't know the expense, where you get a microchip activated dish that opens only for the cat that has the corresponding chip. Depending on Leo, I guess some little piggies figure this out in no time flat, wait for the lid to pop open and push the cat that's supposed to be eating out of the way 
Tapeworm medicine is a tablet. Roundworm medicine is a spot-on. I recommend you treat for both. You could ask your vet to help administer them whilst you're still at the surgery.
Maybe try feeding them both as normal, then a while later sit with Rosco in a separate room from Leo and feed him extra treats. Then give Leo some fuss to let him know he's special too.
Maybe try feeding them both as normal, then a while later sit with Rosco in a separate room from Leo and feed him extra treats. Then give Leo some fuss to let him know he's special too.
You can get a topical wormer called Profender that takes care of tapeworms and many others. Just get it high enough on the neck so they can't reach it, it's not good if they do!I love it because I have two taht are impossible to pill. a littl epricey, but well worth it to me. I get mine on PetMeds and PetRx.
Hmmm, I'd do research into Profender, if I were you. Just saying.
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Furballsmom
thank you 
You must've already met Leo then. He's totally the type of piggy that you described. Haha I will attempt separate feedings somehow as I don't have my boys microchipped at the moment. Or I'll feed together and then sneak some extra to Rosco. Hybrid idea based on
Brian007
's post 
And I'll give Rosco extra treats as well. Thank you for the clarification on which type treats this or that worm.
di and bob
I'm very weary of buying outside of what Vet prescribes and provides at their office. It would make my anxiety scream, I think. I don't remember which one I had been given years ago, but that name sounds very familiar, though. I'll ask in any case. Thank you, everybody!
Hi again I think that dish I was mentioning is activated by a chip that's attached on a collar. I don't know how amenable roscoe is to wearing a collar all the time though. but in any case, sounds to me like you'll get it figured it out, you're a smart cat person and your guys are lucky to have you!
I think that dish I was mentioning is activated by a chip that's attached on a collar. I don't know how amenable roscoe is to wearing a collar all the time though. but in any case, sounds to me like you'll get it figured it out, you're a smart cat person and your guys are lucky to have you!- Thread Starter Thread Starter
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Ohhh, I see. Unfortunately, my boys don't wear collars. I tried some time ago, but got the "I will murder you in your sleep" look. I see what you mean about the dish, though, and it sounds pretty cool!
Thank you for your kind words
Thank you for your kind words
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PCR results for Rosco are in:
Negative for t. foetus, giardia, and other big ones.
Positive for coronavirus and clostridium (last one is 5x)
Vet recommends long lasting steroid next, but also said we can try tylosan to try to decrease clostridium levels. He also said most cats have those two in them already and there could still be an underlying issue for both cats. Reviewed notes that hypoallergenic and metronidazole and limited ingredients and such had no effect when Leo back in July 2016, and again no change in both Leo and Rosco more recently in November 2017. However, based on communications, I reported that Leo was starting to have formed stool, but it was still very soft (cow patty looking). And he had had that long lasting steroid injection at that time.
My main worry with the injection is potential diabetes. Vet said he's done many of these over a number of years, and only had one case where the cat developed diabetes, but there was also more going on with that cat at the time.
I'm not sure what to do here. I could be referred to internal medicine specialists, but it's too much stress for otherwise seemingly healthy cats.
Words of wisdom and experience? Thank you
Negative for t. foetus, giardia, and other big ones.
Positive for coronavirus and clostridium (last one is 5x)
Vet recommends long lasting steroid next, but also said we can try tylosan to try to decrease clostridium levels. He also said most cats have those two in them already and there could still be an underlying issue for both cats. Reviewed notes that hypoallergenic and metronidazole and limited ingredients and such had no effect when Leo back in July 2016, and again no change in both Leo and Rosco more recently in November 2017. However, based on communications, I reported that Leo was starting to have formed stool, but it was still very soft (cow patty looking). And he had had that long lasting steroid injection at that time.
My main worry with the injection is potential diabetes. Vet said he's done many of these over a number of years, and only had one case where the cat developed diabetes, but there was also more going on with that cat at the time.
I'm not sure what to do here. I could be referred to internal medicine specialists, but it's too much stress for otherwise seemingly healthy cats.
Words of wisdom and experience? Thank you
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PS. Both cats get lysine daily since forever. The powdered version sprinkled on their wet food.
I'm going to have to think about this but it's quite late here and I've not got the mental energy to give you the attention you deserve.
But as Arnie says, "I'll be back."
But as Arnie says, "I'll be back."
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Rosco is not taking the tylosin. And it's making him not want to eat. (I sprinkled the capsule in some wet food. I don't blame him.) Both my boys are hard to pill. Rosco bites if you get close to his mouth, unless you're holding treats. I barely slept a wink last night and was crying this morning. Feeling absolutely ineffective in helping them.
I've been reading about s. boulardii and thinking of trying that without the mos as I've read the mos makes for a yucky flavour to our furry friends. I'll see if I can pick some up on the way to school tonight. And some psyllium husk powder?
I feel I'm at my wit's end right now. I have zero hands on support right now. My mom got struck with diarrhea yesterday. Interesting given the PCR results. Some background: my mom is a hoarder. If I don't clean, nothing happens. I can't do it alone. I have nowhere to go. And my sister (in Florida) says mom is main concern and "they're just cats, whatever" so yeah.
I've been reading about s. boulardii and thinking of trying that without the mos as I've read the mos makes for a yucky flavour to our furry friends. I'll see if I can pick some up on the way to school tonight. And some psyllium husk powder?
I feel I'm at my wit's end right now. I have zero hands on support right now. My mom got struck with diarrhea yesterday. Interesting given the PCR results. Some background: my mom is a hoarder. If I don't clean, nothing happens. I can't do it alone. I have nowhere to go. And my sister (in Florida) says mom is main concern and "they're just cats, whatever" so yeah.
Can your vet not give the tylosin as an injection? Apparently it tastes disgusting to cats and so injection is a far better method. Furthermore, injection of tylosin absorbs in the body with greater effect than when taken orally. I'd ask for an injection, if I were you, then you can relax about his not taking it. Not taking an antibiotic once started is very bad indeed and you must complete the course. (I'm not generally an advocate of antibiotics, personally.) I'm not sure whether you'd need to administer the injection twice a day as with the capsules but if you do don't panic because giving a cat an inter-muscular injection is easypeasy. Your vet would show you how to do it anyway. I had to inject my cat, Strawberry, every few days for years and the only issue I ever had was the needle poking right through her skin and out the other side. Cats really don't mind injections and they make very good patients.
I'm not sure why a steroid is necessary at this stage. But I'm not a vet. An immunosuppressant sounds more appropriate but, hey, what do I know. And, I think you're a wee tad paranoid about potential diabetes. Question your vet vigorously but also take their advice if it makes sense (I don't know what your vet says so am just going by guesswork). Make sure your cats drink plenty of fresh water, from a fountain if necessary, and up the fibre content in their diet (pumpkin & psyllium).
Coronavirus is ever so common and most cats come into contact with it at some stage or another. I wouldn't worry too much about it. However, it is highly transferable and so scrupulous litter tray cleaning is required. BUT, I know you are totally on the case when it comes to your litter hygiene so you're already ahead of the game. Make sure you disinfect the tray though and also clean your hands with a disinfectant as you can carry it on your skin. Do you have at least two litter trays in completely separate areas? And are their food and water bowls far away from their litter?
What do you feed them? Undercooked and old meat are factors in contracting coronavirus. I really can't see you being guilty of giving them these things but I'm just pointing it out. Once the coronavirus has cleared the system a cat can become reinfected at a later date, so just be ultra careful on the fresh meat front.
Psyllium husks are a very good idea and should be relatively palatable. Unsweetened pumpkin puree is also an excellent idea, and most cats like the taste. Try giving 1 teaspoon to start with and build up to 3 teaspoons, depending on stool hardness/softness. Pumpkin has the double action of treating both diarrhoea and constipation so tinkering with the exact dose is necessary to find the right balance. Catnip is also very good for tummy woes and chillaxing.
Probiotics AND prebiotics are the way forward! You should look for preparations with multiple strains and billions of them. You can get them as paste as well as powder that might be easier to administer as you can smear it on their faces to lick off (a wee bit undignified but they'll get over it). As far as I'm concerned (and the majority of bacteriologists) probiotics when given in sufficient quantities will simply overwhelm the baddie bacteria and so antibiotics shouldn't be necessary. Prebiotics are the food that the probiotics need to eat and be healthy bacteria warriors.
Stress is another factor in coronavirus. I've just started giving Dudley amino acids inositol and theanine along with some other ingredients (inc tryptophan) in a 'cat-calming' preparation and it's had a marked immediate effect. His fur is even glossier after only two doses! And he's really snuggly and relaxed. I recommend your doing some research into what's available where you are.
Chin up, things could be a lot worse, and as they stand they are highly treatable and get-riddable.
I'm not sure why a steroid is necessary at this stage. But I'm not a vet. An immunosuppressant sounds more appropriate but, hey, what do I know. And, I think you're a wee tad paranoid about potential diabetes. Question your vet vigorously but also take their advice if it makes sense (I don't know what your vet says so am just going by guesswork). Make sure your cats drink plenty of fresh water, from a fountain if necessary, and up the fibre content in their diet (pumpkin & psyllium).
Coronavirus is ever so common and most cats come into contact with it at some stage or another. I wouldn't worry too much about it. However, it is highly transferable and so scrupulous litter tray cleaning is required. BUT, I know you are totally on the case when it comes to your litter hygiene so you're already ahead of the game. Make sure you disinfect the tray though and also clean your hands with a disinfectant as you can carry it on your skin. Do you have at least two litter trays in completely separate areas? And are their food and water bowls far away from their litter?
What do you feed them? Undercooked and old meat are factors in contracting coronavirus. I really can't see you being guilty of giving them these things but I'm just pointing it out. Once the coronavirus has cleared the system a cat can become reinfected at a later date, so just be ultra careful on the fresh meat front.
Psyllium husks are a very good idea and should be relatively palatable. Unsweetened pumpkin puree is also an excellent idea, and most cats like the taste. Try giving 1 teaspoon to start with and build up to 3 teaspoons, depending on stool hardness/softness. Pumpkin has the double action of treating both diarrhoea and constipation so tinkering with the exact dose is necessary to find the right balance. Catnip is also very good for tummy woes and chillaxing.
Probiotics AND prebiotics are the way forward! You should look for preparations with multiple strains and billions of them. You can get them as paste as well as powder that might be easier to administer as you can smear it on their faces to lick off (a wee bit undignified but they'll get over it). As far as I'm concerned (and the majority of bacteriologists) probiotics when given in sufficient quantities will simply overwhelm the baddie bacteria and so antibiotics shouldn't be necessary. Prebiotics are the food that the probiotics need to eat and be healthy bacteria warriors.
Stress is another factor in coronavirus. I've just started giving Dudley amino acids inositol and theanine along with some other ingredients (inc tryptophan) in a 'cat-calming' preparation and it's had a marked immediate effect. His fur is even glossier after only two doses! And he's really snuggly and relaxed. I recommend your doing some research into what's available where you are.
Chin up, things could be a lot worse, and as they stand they are highly treatable and get-riddable.
