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Hello! I've done lots of feral/semi-feral kitten socialization - and totally understand your frustration. I've been there many times and it iS super frustrating. We've had feral kittens (and adults) who socialize quickly, but many take quite some time. I always have to remind myself that these kitties survived outside ONLY by being super cautious of EVERYTHING. They're definitely not the top of the "prey chain" so their mom teaches them fight or flight (or hide) is the only way to stay alive. I try to remember that when I get frustrated. You're trying to undo what's been buried deeply into their brain by mom that this is how they survive.

But on a positive note - it may not feel like it, but you've made AMAZING progress already. And faster then many, believe it or not. Slow and steady is very important. If the safe room is where he still feels safe, that's ok. Socialization is usually two steps forward, one step back. Someone on this site once told me something I"ll never forget - the gift we get out of the socialization is patience for us. The bonus is a cat that's now safely inside and taken care of. But I know it's hard! You've gotten great tips already - - -I'll write some more later when I can bc I have a few more tips to try! We all have different tips and tricks - which is the beauty of this site! In this forum, so many of us have gone through exactly what you're going thru and know exactly how you feel!

And it warmed my heart to hear that you'll accept him as he is - - - lap cat or no. They're all different, just like people, and if everyone understood that as you do, there'd be alot more safe kitties!
Thank you so much for your advice abd kind words. It does make me feel more validated to hear your stories! It can get discouraging but Im trusting the process. By the way, today Boogie made the biggest step for him yet and actually LEF THE SAFE ROOM for the first time in two months! I was reading on the couch and he came into the room, super scared at first and moving very slowly. At the end he lied and took a brief nap! I am so happy!!
 

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On Boogie now... He is definitely exploring more, especially at night. He even comes to our room and plays with whatever he finds laying on the floor. He is showing a more playful side, in general. Yesterday I saw him get the zoomis for the first time!
However, he is still not leaving the safe room during the day. If I am with him, he acts skittish when he sees me come in but in a matter of seconds relaxes, stretches, even shows me his tummy... He seems pretty relaxed. But if I try to pet him, move my hands towards him or make any sudden move he hisses at us and sometimes even runs out of the room and hides. Ive come to the conclusion he is mostly scared of hands. If I put treats in my lap, he will come and eat them, but if they are on my hand, he sniffs them and then backs away like he is disgusted LOL.
Well, that's very good news that he is venturing out and having fun. It shows that his confidence have picked up.

Not leaving his safe room is normal as it is the place that he feels safest but he has the optimal of coming out by himself which he did and just let him be. The safe room is important to him as he knows it's a place where he can retreat to as and when and it some what will also build up his confidence in a way that is much better than without a safe room and he has to run under the bed or cupboard to hide.

Yes, you may be right about him being afraid of hands but why we may not know the real reason. Try forming your hand into a fist and let him head butt your fist and from there gently pet him with your fist along his cheek. Maybe you can try putting the treats on your fist instead of an open palm.
 

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Hi there,nice to meet you and congratulations on your first and forever kitty,Boogie!You've been a Blessing to this little fellow and I promise you he will be your Blessing right back-patience my friend,what's a couple of months compared to the next decade or two? Look at it that way because that's the reality of it

Try looking through Boogies eyes,I'll help you.....wow,it's a scarey sight to behold! There's this creature that's sooooo big,as big as a tree,it has these long flying tentacles with the longest claws I've ever seen in my life----and they are coming at me,no not no--- its just too big.....

And then" oh ,wait a minute,that feels really nice,uhhhh I like thst"

Boogie is just being a cautious cat- give him time....he'll come to know the sight and the "feels good" goes together- right now it's not connected quite yet,that's all..... move slowly,try to keep your arms from swinging about and cup your hand to keep your claws in for now

Having a safe room is GREAT,let his confidence build at his pace,cats are very curious creature-eventually he won't be able to resist seeing EVERYWHERE- in his time,let him be

70 days ago I took in a 7year old male feral- I'm sitting here typing and hrs not in front of me--for tye first time he's in the kitchen-lol Isn't that funny?His safe space is an enclosure right in front of me-he wanders a little and runs back to it- yes,it's normal & its progress,you're doing great-theres no time line- go slow and you'll have a confident kitty
 
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Hi there,nice to meet you and congratulations on your first and forever kitty,Boogie!You've been a Blessing to this little fellow and I promise you he will be your Blessing right back-patience my friend,what's a couple of months compared to the next decade or two? Look at it that way because that's the reality of it

Try looking through Boogies eyes,I'll help you.....wow,it's a scarey sight to behold! There's this creature that's sooooo big,as big as a tree,it has these long flying tentacles with the longest claws I've ever seen in my life----and they are coming at me,no not no--- its just too big.....

And then" oh ,wait a minute,that feels really nice,uhhhh I like thst"

Boogie is just being a cautious cat- give him time....he'll come to know the sight and the "feels good" goes together- right now it's not connected quite yet,that's all..... move slowly,try to keep your arms from swinging about and cup your hand to keep your claws in for now

Having a safe room is GREAT,let his confidence build at his pace,cats are very curious creature-eventually he won't be able to resist seeing EVERYWHERE- in his time,let him be

70 days ago I took in a 7year old male feral- I'm sitting here typing and hrs not in front of me--for tye first time he's in the kitchen-lol Isn't that funny?His safe space is an enclosure right in front of me-he wanders a little and runs back to it- yes,it's normal & its progress,you're doing great-theres no time line- go slow and you'll have a confident kitty
Thank you! As some of you said, I am learning patience is the way to go! It is definitely one step forward two backwards with him. The next morning of him laying with me in the living room, he came to the kitchen, where I was at that moment, and explored it. It was the first time he was actually moving in the open room and not close to the walls like a ninja! He is a lot more skittish with my partner though, but I guess it is because Ive spent much more time with him and I am his primary carer.
 

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Thank you! As some of you said, I am learning patience is the way to go! It is definitely one step forward two backwards with him. The next morning of him laying with me in the living room, he came to the kitchen, where I was at that moment, and explored it. It was the first time he was actually moving in the open room and not close to the walls like a ninja! He is a lot more skittish with my partner though, but I guess it is because Ive spent much more time with him and I am his primary carer.
Aww,that's so cute.... Yeah,it just takes time is all ❤You're doing great,no worries.... The dance is very very normal,1,2,3 forward then back and so on.... It'll be fine,slowly but surely👍
 

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Hello all, this is probably going to be a long post.
I took in a feral 2 month old kitten a little over a month ago. I saw him wandering around our house for a couple of weeks, no signs of mom or other litter mates… so I set a carrier with food inside and he got in. After that, I took him inside and prepared a room for him with carrier, food, water, toys and a litter box. He was in that room for two weeks and I would visit everyday, three, four times a day and just hang with him, read to him, did the eye blinking thing… From day one he ate and used the litter box normally, although never when me or my partner where around. After those two weeks, I left the door of his room open and he explored the kitchen, which is the room right beside the one he was in. All of this exploring happened and still does at night or when we are not in the house.
So far Ive managed to play with him with da bird type of toys and got him to eat treats from my hand. If I try to pet him, he hisses non stop, even though If I do pet him he eventually relaxes and even falls asleep.
The thing is, Im starting to get worried. Ive read everywhere that is easier for kittens to adjust but with him, its very hard to tell if we are making any progress at all. I also dont know how to approach him anymore. Im trying to give him space, but im scared he will never socialise if I dont force the petting and the physical contact. I am scared that I am always going to live with a cat who seems to hate us. On the first week of having him we took him to the vet and they told us he had herpesvirus, which meant we had to give him antibiotics and different medications. Weve had to take him to the vet because of this 5 times in a month. Its frustrating because i feel like that is traumatizing him even more, if possible!
Please help me, he is my first cat and I am so lost. I do not wish for a lap cat, I just want him ti be comfortable and okay with our presence without the constant hissing and looking terrified.
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Hello!
It sounds like you are making progress! I recently caught three 6-7 week old kittens (and live trapped the mom to get fixed) and they were all hissing and spitting at us. After a few days, I started picking them up against their will! We have had them a few weeks now, and they are friendly little purrballs! If the only time you have been picking him up is to go to the vet, I can see why he's sceptical 😆

It probably won't be overly enjoyable for him or you to hold him at first, but he will get used to it! If you get a jar of chicken baby food, he can lick it off your finger while you hold him.
 
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I am also concerned that he has been at home for two months now and I still have not seen him rub against anything. He usually hangs in his two favourite spots (under the table) and only comes out at night. Is this normal? Do all feral kittens adjust to living in a house? We rescued him at 8 weeks so he didnt live in the street for a long time, but seeing he is still terrified and not tryint to initiate contact, makes me worry he might never adapt to living indoors…
 

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I am also concerned that he has been at home for two months now and I still have not seen him rub against anything. He usually hangs in his two favourite spots (under the table) and only comes out at night. Is this normal? Do all feral kittens adjust to living in a house? We rescued him at 8 weeks so he didnt live in the street for a long time, but seeing he is still terrified and not tryint to initiate contact, makes me worry he might never adapt to living indoors…
Kittens,yes- they adjust,there's absolutely no reason they need to see the outside world -indoors is their "world"
May I ask about the environment a little -would you mind? Some folks move around slowly ,smoothly and in a very non threatening manner I'm a cats perception,others are loud,move quickly and swing their arms.... these are little things that can make all the difference in the world
Loud TVs,games with gunfire,a noisy A/C unit or phones ringing loudly( unexpectedly),speakerphones,music...let's take a look and see what is so terrifying to this kitty?
It's not easy to shut everything down to accommodate a scared kitty-after all people have to live their lives,right? But there might be some stuff you may not be aware of- you did mention this little one is your very first fur baby.... I'd be happy to try and help figure out how we can address his fears but first we need to recognize what they are.....
 
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Kittens,yes- they adjust,there's absolutely no reason they need to see the outside world -indoors is their "world"
May I ask about the environment a little -would you mind? Some folks move around slowly ,smoothly and in a very non threatening manner I'm a cats perception,others are loud,move quickly and swing their arms.... these are little things that can make all the difference in the world
Loud TVs,games with gunfire,a noisy A/C unit or phones ringing loudly( unexpectedly),speakerphones,music...let's take a look and see what is so terrifying to this kitty?
It's not easy to shut everything down to accommodate a scared kitty-after all people have to live their lives,right? But there might be some stuff you may not be aware of- you did mention this little one is your very first fur baby.... I'd be happy to try and help figure out how we can address his fears but first we need to recognize what they are.....
We try to move as slowly as we can around him. Its only my partner and I in the house and I dont think we are being really noisy… I do see he is more comfortable with me than with my partner, who is a bit louder than I am (but still I wouldnt consider ourselves loud). I cant think of any loud noises that might be scaring him really… When Im with him in the kitchen and he is resting and laying tummy up, even if Im using noisy utensils, he doesnt seem to mind and keeps sleeping.
 

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We try to move as slowly as we can around him. Its only my partner and I in the house and I dont think we are being really noisy… I do see he is more comfortable with me than with my partner, who is a bit louder than I am (but still I wouldnt consider ourselves loud). I cant think of any loud noises that might be scaring him really… When Im with him in the kitchen and he is resting and laying tummy up, even if Im using noisy utensils, he doesnt seem to mind and keeps sleeping.
Does he stay in your room when you go to bed ,you say he stays under the table during the day- kitchen table? Where is his safe room?
 
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Does he stay in your room when you go to bed ,you say he stays under the table during the day- kitchen table? Where is his safe room?
His safe room is the guest room, but now he is usually in the kitchen (I think because its the coolest room in the house). At night he explores the house and he does come into our room. Ive caught him twice coming to the living room qhen we were watching TV. He laid for like fice minutes and then went back to the kitchen. When we wake up in the morning he is always back under the kitchen table.
 

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Do you have toys to interact and engage in playtime with him? A cat wand,laser pointer? Does he play with toys?

Are you both home in the daytime,work from home? Is he spending time alone ? If you can keep him busy during the day he will adjust to your clock more and sleep more when you're asleep....Cats spend alot of time sleeping,especially when there's not much to do or keep them occupied -then being nocturnal creatures that hunt at night they tend to look around for things to do at night .....Boredom can be your best friend,spark his interest with some long snake things to lure him out from under the table to chase and play.. I always get kittens interest with my bathrobe belts,lol ....get the energy out and then when they get tuckered out you pet them and they take their little naps

Kittens just love to play,especially so young...sit on tye floor or lie down on the floor and play with a wand,he'll certainly want to see what youre up to
 

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I am also concerned that he has been at home for two months now and I still have not seen him rub against anything. He usually hangs in his two favourite spots (under the table) and only comes out at night. Is this normal? Do all feral kittens adjust to living in a house? We rescued him at 8 weeks so he didnt live in the street for a long time, but seeing he is still terrified and not tryint to initiate contact, makes me worry he might never adapt to living indoors…
This is pretty normal. After reading the later posts, it seems that the kitchen table is one of his favorite place to be and also one of his safe place. I'm not sure if he can see you guys from there. If he can, it's his way of being a lap cat. Not all cats are lap cats and when cats are not lapping on you, doesn't mean they are not lap cats. They can be at a position somewhere where they can see you and are near you and that's a lap cat in the manner.

Having his belly up in the kitchen shows a lot of good signs. Also he came to the room where you guys are watching tv, it means that he's checking out the place too and curious what the sound is and coming from.

As Kwik Kwik mentioned, get some toys and play with him. Have interactions with him while he's awake in the day and try to play away from the safe room.

Also kittens sleep lots and cats are crepuscular creatures meaning that they are most active from dawn to dusk and hat's why the kitten is out at play in the night.

Definitely he'll adjust living indoors. Give him time and also plan a routine for him so that he can follow. Don't let him do things his way but don't force him in any way. The other thing is that their sleeping habits will change. Now it's the kitchen table and next will be somewhere else. They'll snooze wherever they feel comfortable and safe. My boy is coming to 8 years old and he's a rescue at around 3 - 4weeks old and till today, his sleeping place always change And sometimes I just cannot find him :lol:

Don't worry, you are making good progress. Just don't be discourage. I'd always one step forward and two steps back. No one's and no kitties are perfect.
 

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I'd say you're doing pretty well! As Kwik Kwik noted, playing is always a good option. I have fostered a shy little brown tabby called Sophie who would not come out of her safe room. I tried to lure her out with toys, but it didn't usually work as she was not toy-motivated. We had to use wet treat to get her out into the living room, but she would only do that at night. She didn't have time to fully adjust before our time with her was over. But usually, toys are always my first resort. Lure your cat out with a toy that puts a lot of distance between them and you.
 
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Do you have toys to interact and engage in playtime with him? A cat wand,laser pointer? Does he play with toys?

Are you both home in the daytime,work from home? Is he spending time alone ? If you can keep him busy during the day he will adjust to your clock more and sleep more when you're asleep....Cats spend alot of time sleeping,especially when there's not much to do or keep them occupied -then being nocturnal creatures that hunt at night they tend to look around for things to do at night .....Boredom can be your best friend,spark his interest with some long snake things to lure him out from under the table to chase and play.. I always get kittens interest with my bathrobe belts,lol ....get the energy out and then when they get tuckered out you pet them and they take their little naps

Kittens just love to play,especially so young...sit on tye floor or lie down on the floor and play with a wand,he'll certainly want to see what youre up to
Yes! I have a long piece of string tied to a stick that he loves to play with (he doesnt like regular wand toys, I think because the string is too short and he gets scared of being so close to us). He comes from under the table and moves around the room. Even gets the zoomies while playing! I always play with him 3-4 times a day and he loves it. He also eats treats from my hand, though if he hears any noise, he will retreat to under the table.
Right now he is spending less time on his own cause my partner and I are on holidays, but in a week or so he will be about 6 hours a day by himself.
 
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This is pretty normal. After reading the later posts, it seems that the kitchen table is one of his favorite place to be and also one of his safe place. I'm not sure if he can see you guys from there. If he can, it's his way of being a lap cat. Not all cats are lap cats and when cats are not lapping on you, doesn't mean they are not lap cats. They can be at a position somewhere where they can see you and are near you and that's a lap cat in the manner.

Having his belly up in the kitchen shows a lot of good signs. Also he came to the room where you guys are watching tv, it means that he's checking out the place too and curious what the sound is and coming from.

As Kwik Kwik mentioned, get some toys and play with him. Have interactions with him while he's awake in the day and try to play away from the safe room.

Also kittens sleep lots and cats are crepuscular creatures meaning that they are most active from dawn to dusk and hat's why the kitten is out at play in the night.

Definitely he'll adjust living indoors. Give him time and also plan a routine for him so that he can follow. Don't let him do things his way but don't force him in any way. The other thing is that their sleeping habits will change. Now it's the kitchen table and next will be somewhere else. They'll snooze wherever they feel comfortable and safe. My boy is coming to 8 years old and he's a rescue at around 3 - 4weeks old and till today, his sleeping place always change And sometimes I just cannot find him :lol:

Don't worry, you are making good progress. Just don't be discourage. I'd always one step forward and two steps back. No one's and no kitties are perfect.
Thank you for your kind words! He can deffinitely see us from under the table and so can we, so Ill take it as a positive sign!
 

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Thank you for your kind words! He can deffinitely see us from under the table and so can we, so Ill take it as a positive sign!
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He can see you guys from under the kitchen table? That's a lap cat!

It's a new environment to him, give him more time.
 

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Yes! I have a long piece of string tied to a stick that he loves to play with (he doesnt like regular wand toys, I think because the string is too short and he gets scared of being so close to us). He comes from under the table and moves around the room. Even gets the zoomies while playing! I always play with him 3-4 times a day and he loves it. He also eats treats from my hand, though if he hears any noise, he will retreat to under the table.
Right now he is spending less time on his own cause my partner and I are on holidays, but in a week or so he will be about 6 hours a day by himself.
Fantastic! So those long stringy things you've made are excellent,they can get shorter and eventually he'll enjoy the wands-a safe distance is always best for thst type of play- you're doing well- good to hear it.....I do have to ask,you hadn't mentioned and I know he's your first kitty so just know thst I ask because I'm here to offer help,support and encouragement- not for any other reason❤
Just so you are assured,you are doing everything right- Boogie is doing great,his behavior is not uncommon with his type of timid personality and you will be pleasantly surprised to find that once he's completely confident that timid little boy might become quite bold and end up on your lap!!!,But as tabbytom tabbytom explained he is being a 'lapcat" in his way-- the belly up in the kitchen,watching you from under the table and don't forget the 5minutes he spent by you & your partner in tye living room!Remember a good 5minutes is spectacular,it's not " how long " that matters,it's that it's a good interaction ending on a good note..... an hour of something great that ends badly is unproductive,they'll only associate the end result

Didn't you mention considering another kitten somewhere or was thst someone else?Since you all will be away from home alot it might be an idea?
 
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Fantastic! So those long stringy things you've made are excellent,they can get shorter and eventually he'll enjoy the wands-a safe distance is always best for thst type of play- you're doing well- good to hear it.....I do have to ask,you hadn't mentioned and I know he's your first kitty so just know thst I ask because I'm here to offer help,support and encouragement- not for any other reason❤
Just so you are assured,you are doing everything right- Boogie is doing great,his behavior is not uncommon with his type of timid personality and you will be pleasantly surprised to find that once he's completely confident that timid little boy might become quite bold and end up on your lap!!!,But as tabbytom tabbytom explained he is being a 'lapcat" in his way-- the belly up in the kitchen,watching you from under the table and don't forget the 5minutes he spent by you & your partner in tye living room!Remember a good 5minutes is spectacular,it's not " how long " that matters,it's that it's a good interaction ending on a good note..... an hour of something great that ends badly is unproductive,they'll only associate the end result

Didn't you mention considering another kitten somewhere or was thst someone else?Since you all will be away from home alot it might be an idea?
Yeah, you are right. I never expected him to be a lap cat (the idea that we all have in mind of one). I am just worried that he gets very anxious and every interaction we have its like he has to warm up to us before fully relaxing. Also if he is out of the kitchen and catches our eye, he runs back to it. This is what I am worried about, him being so anxious… Also the fact that I cant pet him, at all. I stopped trying because I read it would be better for him to initiate, but him being so anxious makes me think the petting is so far away from happening… it makes me sad cause I dont mind him not being a “traditional” lap cat, but I do wish he interacted with us more, even if it was laying a couple feet from us in the room we were in, which has only happened twice for now…
 
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