Probably domestic longhair cats, very beautiful!I'm not sure abt the breed of these cats, it's a mother and daughter though. Can anyone help with the breed type?
Probably domestic longhair cats, very beautiful!I'm not sure abt the breed of these cats, it's a mother and daughter though. Can anyone help with the breed type?
They could have some Persian influence, though, their faces are fairly flat. The daughter looks like a blue and the mother looks like a lilac.Probably domestic longhair cats, very beautiful!
Yes, I do see Turkish Angora!If there was a dominant breed trait in this kitten, I would guess Turkish Angora. I see a decent
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I'm not sure abt the breed of these cats, it's a mother and daughter though. Can anyone help with the breed type?
Just to clarify, my post was replying to the pictures of these other two cats.They could have some Persian influence, though, their faces are fairly flat. The daughter looks like a blue and the mother looks like a lilac.
Everyone likes to imagine rare breeds but the reality is rarely that. Aside from all Turkish Angora's being registered, there are many differences that the breed has. They have ears that are larger/closer together, the ear hair points up not out, their skulls are smaller/narrower and longer. Like this kitten:If there was a dominant breed trait in this kitten, I would guess Turkish Angora. I see a decent resemblence so far.
These are actually really tough - possibly a mix. Do you have a picture of the father? Looking at the mother I thought like tarasgirl06 that it might be DLH but the kitten wouldn't look like that if it was... the other question I have is whether or not the mother's ear hair has been trimmed?I'm not sure abt the breed of these cats, it's a mother and daughter though. Can anyone help with the breed type?
JMJimmy I was hoping this guy was an Angora, but from the above description, I guess not, eh?Everyone likes to imagine rare breeds but the reality is rarely that. Aside from all Turkish Angora's being registered, there are many differences that the breed has. They have ears that are larger/closer together, the ear hair points up not out, their skulls are smaller/narrower and longer.
That's an RW, SGC Turkish Angora named Antioch Tulum Peyniri. He placed 4th in last year's TICA standingsJMJimmy I was hoping this guy was an Angora, but from the above description, I guess not, eh?
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1CatOverTheLine , I apologize for asking what may be a trivial question, but how can you tell who bred a certain cat? I am familiar CFA's breeds and decent at identifying a cat's breed, but far from telling a cat's breeder simply by a picture. Can you do this because there are slight differences in each breeder's line?.
Yep; one of Kit Goodwin's boys from right her in the Region. Notice the ear placement - exactly the reason that the Breed Standards allot so little to placement in Angoras.
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Yeah I wasn't trying to be exhaustive/perfect in my description - just some of the broad things to look at..
Yep; one of Kit Goodwin's boys from right her in the Region. Notice the ear placement - exactly the reason that the Breed Standards allot so little to placement in Angoras.
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She's beautiful whatever her mix is!!!
I agree that it is not accurate to genetics, or expressive of the full ancestry. Breeds are artificial constructs to describe grouped characteristics. We're constantly learning that our visual observations are not supported by genetics. That said, the traits of these artificial constructs allow laypersons to categorize their pets in a way that's meaningful to them. My cat displays the predominant traits of "x and y" breeds is harmless to say even if the genetics show it's a mix of 6-7 different cats. No one goes around saying "My cat is ATGCTTCGGG..." because it holds no meaning for them..
jmjimmy - the point was that almost any determination of breed ancestry based upon the Breed Standard of one or another sanctioning body is, at best, a wild guess. Genetic trait determiners - ...
By that I simply meant that Angora's that don't have a registered lineage tracing back to Turkey are generally considered simply Angora.As to, "all Turkish Angora's [sic] being registered," I'm afraid it simply isn't the case.
Very cool! I've been to a few shows, so I'm getting to know a few breeders (like I can recognize a blue Aby from Zehnder), but I have a lot to learn before I have your kind of experience.. § § §
Abyeb - there are a few breeders whose cats are almost instantly recognisable because they've characteristics which border upon the unique. Meg Lambert's (Ruddy) Abyssinians stand out for their coat consistency; Amanda Bright's Russian Blues are unmistakable for their chiselled head conformation; Judy and David Bernbaum's Maine Coons' classic muzzles and lynx tips can be spotted across a crowded show floor, and Alice Billman's Siamese so closely channel Eva Walker (Lady Vyvyan)'s fin de siècle Palace Thais that the resemblance is uncanny.
Over the forty or so years that I travelled for business, I always managed to find time to attend shows in Europe and in Russia as well as in America. I've a close Friend who's a venerable All Breed Judge and past Siamese and Abyssinian breeder whom I've known for nearly half a century (and who's spent nearly that long judging), who's shared a few tips and some of the finer points learned over the course of being a part of the Cat Fancy since the very late 1950s (incidentally, your kitty always makes me think of him, since his first cat was named, "Charlie," as well).
The real answer is that you simply can't attribute a cat to a particular breeder or cattery, but you can make some pretty shrewd guesses with a little bit of luck after attending almost a thousand shows.
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Don't get old.Very cool! I've been to a few shows, so I'm getting to know a few breeders (like I can recognize a blue Aby from Zehnder), but I have a lot to learn before I have your kind of experience.