Palatable alternative to egg yolk

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What is the nutritional alternative to egg yolk? Choline, lecithin, and what else? Probably other B-vitamins.

It also has to be palatable. B-vitamin supplement smells like feet probably because it comes from brewer's yeast. Can I source it from nutritional yeast instead? Although she does like s. boulardii which has more of a bready smell than a feet or cheese smell. Maybe it wasn't the B-vitamins that turned her off the first and only time I included them in the recipe.

What is the dose (of B-vitamins or yeast) for 1 lbs of meat? I'm not yet ready to make full batches until Krista is good with the recipe.
 

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I think it’s mainly the B vitamins you’d need to replace. There are other nutrients in it too but I can’t think of anything that is substantial enough that your kitty would miss out on. Possibly choline levels would be too low?

Unfortunatley B-50 complex smells very awful. I think for 1 pound of meat you could be fine with one or even half of one B-50 complex. Maybe try half and see if she notices the smell. I’m not sure about using yeast...

I use B-50 in addition to egg yolk anyway because egg yolk doesn’t have nutrients like thiamin and biotin.
 
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I think it’s mainly the B vitamins you’d need to replace. There are other nutrients in it too but I can’t think of anything that is substantial enough that your kitty would miss out on. Possibly choline levels would be too low?

Unfortunatley B-50 complex smells very awful. I think for 1 pound of meat you could be fine with one or even half of one B-50 complex. Maybe try half and see if she notices the smell. I’m not sure about using yeast...

I use B-50 in addition to egg yolk anyway because egg yolk doesn’t have nutrients like thiamin and biotin.
Egg yolks definitely have biotin. I can feel the difference in Krista's coat. It does appear to be a good source of thiamine too.

I'll try half a B-complex.

At this point, I can't tell if the food coma after eating is how much her teeth hurts or how much her gut might be hurting. Maybe taking the egg out will get us over the half ounce portion hump she's stuck on right now.
 

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Hmm, I was going by a nutrient analysis of my recipe that mschauer mschauer did for me. It states that the percentage of biotin and thiamin in my recipe contributed from the egg yolk is nill. Maybe it’s just a very small amount that it doesn’t show up on my analysis? Not sure.

Maybe what I should say is that egg yolk alone doesn’t have *enough* of all nutrients to meet AAFCO minimums?
 
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Hmm, I was going by a nutrient analysis of my recipe that mschauer mschauer did for me. It states that the percentage of biotin and thiamin in my recipe contributed from the egg yolk is nill.
Two things:
- Sufficient biotin for cats is produced by bacteria in the intestinal tract. As per AAFCO recommendations: "Biotin does not need to be added unless diet contains antimicrobial or antivitamin compounds."
- The USDA database (which is what I use in my analyses) does not include data for biotin so the actual amount may be higher than what the analysis shows.
 

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Two things:
- Sufficient biotin for cats is produced by bacteria in the intestinal tract. As per AAFCO recommendations: "Biotin does not need to be added unless diet contains antimicrobial or antivitamin compounds."
- The USDA database (which is what I use in my analyses) does not include data for biotin so the actual amount may be higher than what the analysis shows.
Thanks for the clarification. What about thiamin?
 

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The USDA database does include data for thiamin and it does need to be supplemented if not present in at least the minimum recommended quantity assuming the AAFCO recommendations are being utilized.
 

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I've been making raw but thinking about making cooked food due to "seasonal raw eater" syndrome (?? one of my cat start vomiting raw few weeks ago, that happened last winter and ended in spring). I tried cooked recipe in the past, but my cats seems to have issue with egg. If I omit egg from recipe - should I add or double B vitamin?

I also made cooked with Alnutrin, but since I already have all the vitamins I'd rather go with dyi route.

Thanks!
 
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