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yup the other endOriginally Posted by mom2raven
How do you tell if it is too rich? (and I am guessing by what comes out of the other end of the cat).
yup the other endOriginally Posted by mom2raven
How do you tell if it is too rich? (and I am guessing by what comes out of the other end of the cat).
Good nutrition does very little to stop an abcess especially when caused by injury. It may help them heal a little faster after you clean up the wound but I've had just as many and as bad of abcesses or infected wounds in well fed animals as those on cheap foods or scraping up whatever they can find outside. I've almost lost a few guinea pigs to infections from minor injuries when I order in pellets from the other side of the country in order to get good enough quality. They are fed the best possible diet you can come up with for a guinea pig and it had no impact on their resistent or healing rate from such infections. My horses I also drive to specific stores to get grain free feeds (grain is actually not that great for horses), bale some of the best quality hay in the area to feed them, and have 40 acres of pasture for them to naturally graze. Not to mention vitamin/mineral/joint supplements. One was nearly permanently lame last spring from a bad hoof abcess that wouldn't heal and another poked it's shoulder and it took 2months to get the infection cleared up. In my experience better food won't prevent an outdoor cat or most any other animal from dying of an abcess or infected wound unless the animal has obvously been starving for awhile so that it is obviously in weakened health.These cats are not keeling over dead from malnutrition, the VAST MAJORITY of these ferals are succumbing to infection from abcesses (the #1 "non-wellness" reason we see indoor/outdoor cats at my job for) disease, becoming road kill, getting mauled by dogs, cruelty, or any number of fates.
IF they had proper nutrition the VAST majority would not succumbing to infection as the body would fight it... yeah the human made issues are another thing...
BUT Have YOU talked to or written to and or seen either in PERSON???Originally Posted by moggiegirl
If I consulted my vet and followed their advice I would be feeding dry Science Diet and no raw at all. No thanks. I prefer doing my own research all of which comes from knowledgeable vets such as Dr Lisa Pierson and Dr Elizabeth Hodgkins.
Your first word is IF and that makes me think that you do not know that for sure and are just assuming. I understand what you are saying, I am pretty sure that my vet would just push whatever product they sell in the office as well. All I do know is that I am not a nutritionist (escpecially not a cat nutritionist) and don't mind having other input besides myself.Originally Posted by moggiegirl
If I consulted my vet and followed their advice I would be feeding dry Science Diet and no raw at all. No thanks. I prefer doing my own research all of which comes from knowledgeable vets such as Dr Lisa Pierson and Dr Elizabeth Hodgkins.
I have consulted them years ago and they did not support it. They reccommend Science Diet. Plus Hodgkins and Pierson are other input besides myself. I did not get my research from myself, I got it from reading sources of information. I think the post should say, consult a holistic vet, not simply consult your vet as many are against the raw diet.Originally Posted by mom2raven
Your first word is IF and that makes me think that you do not know that for sure and are just assuming. I understand what you are saying, I am pretty sure that my vet would just push whatever product they sell in the office as well. All I do know is that I am not a nutritionist (escpecially not a cat nutritionist) and don't mind having other input besides myself.
WEll put... I am saying CONSULT your vet NOT only use there info ... just a double checkOriginally Posted by mschauer
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IMO: There's a *ton* of contradictory information out there. I don't take what *any* one person says about *anything* to be the gospel. I research and consider what many people say and use my own experience and common to guide me.
One lives in Yorba Linda and the other is in another part of California. I've read Dr Hodgkins book and agree with all the advice in that book. I will use it as a reference when I need it. I won't consult them just to feed my healthy cats a raw diet. Research on how to balance and supplement works fine for me but believe me if my cats had a medical issue and my conventional vets in my area were not helping me Pierson or Hodgkins would be the first vets I'd contact because they do really understand feline nutrition and I've read such great testimonials.Their phone numbers are listed on this website. www.felinespride.comOriginally Posted by sharky
BUT Have YOU talked to or written to and or seen either in PERSON???
I have enough vets, my two natural ,one of their mentors, the uni vets and two others I deal with ... but I am glad they are within reach for youOriginally Posted by moggiegirl
One lives in Yorba Linda and the other is in another part of California. I've read Dr Hodgkins book and agree with all the advice in that book. I will use it as a reference when I need it. I won't consult them just to feed my healthy cats a raw diet. Research on how to balance and supplement works fine for me but believe me if my cats had a medical issue and my conventional vets in my area were not helping me Pierson or Hodgkins would be the first vets I'd contact because they do really understand feline nutrition and I've read such great testimonials.Their phone numbers are listed on this website. www.felinespride.com
Originally Posted by moggiegirl
If I consulted my vet and followed their advice I would be feeding dry Science Diet and no raw at all. No thanks. I prefer doing my own research all of which comes from knowledgeable vets such as Dr Lisa Pierson and Dr Elizabeth Hodgkins.
And the other burning question is have either of those noted vets actually performed a thorough examination of your cat/s to determine what the best nutritional plan for them as individuals would be?Originally Posted by sharky
BUT Have YOU talked to or written to and or seen either in PERSON???