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[Mr i need help asap]

My cat got dignosed with mammary cancer she female that 9 and half tabby cat dr said 3 months to live i was heart broken about it he just new some how !!! now it 2 months in she having trouble breathing laying in every room not eating not drinking she not meowing juss waves her tail when i call her name even cought her bang head on wall im really torn up about this every time i try touch her see her she coughing every minute she doesnt even sleep is it time to put her down ???? Im so heart broken it hurts 1st time this happing to me sorry for long post is it true wut vet saying it was already spreading??? Im soo sorry and feeling so bad

 

[mrsgreenjeens]

I'm so sorry this is happening to your little girl (and you). Yes, it may indeed be time . It's impossible to say for certain, but if you take her in, the Vet will be able to tell you exactly what is happening now. It's possible the cancer has spread to her lungs, which is why she is having trouble breathing. (when Vet's give a time frame, it may be the best possible scenario, never an exact timeframe)

I'm sure the last thing you want her to do is suffer, so please take her in at least to be checked to see how far it has progressed, and if she is suffering, release her from her pain. That is the greatest gift we can give, even as our hearts are breaking. Believe me, most of us have been there and know what you are going through . Our hearts are breaking right along with yours

 

[Mr i need help asap]

ur not 1st tell me put her down or telling suffering stop i just dont wann put her down if it something else omg never thought it would end likes this ........... that vet is closed have go 24h vet they quotedd me 1300 drain water and told me 2 weeks she has stay there and it will come backk (( i dont wann torcher her and keep her in pain i wish i new if im doing right thing omgg im soo heart broken i never thought this day will come soo soon already miss her in my arms please some one tell me what would you do she sooo sweet soo calm doesnt even cry meow .... like i never seen cat so brave like this in my life???she droped tear when i was crying and then licked up my tears im going go crazy

 

[Mr i need help asap]

the 2 most common causes of fluid in the chest would be heart failure, or cancer. Hope god forgives me hope my beautiful cat forgives me i dunno i should do more test i dont wann belive the 1st vet he just picked her up mesured the lumps gave me the diagnosis and now this im in shock

 

[amethyst]

It doesn't sound like she has a quality of life at this point. If she is no longer able to eat, drink, or be a cat, I think it's time to let her go. Did the vet say the cancer was not operable? The problem with cancer is you can never be sure how much time the animal has left. The vet can give you their best guess based on the size of the tumors, the location of them, and how quickly they grew. Sometimes the cancer slows down and sometimes it spreads faster, for no reason. If you don't think that cancer is the right diagnosis I would bring her to get a second opinion. If it's more a situation of you don't want to believe it, you need to come to terms with it, for her sake. Did they give you any pain meds to give her to help make her comfortable? If they didn't, when she comes home you may want to ask for some medication to make her comfortable so you can say your goodbyes, treat her to a nice day, give her anything she might want if she can eat at all, play with her favorite toys, have her lay in her favorite spot, etc. Let her last day be a good day if possible, and end on a good note knowing you love her.

 

[foxden]

Mr i need help asap ,
I allowed my soul kitty Kiki to leave me in January this year. She was suddenly unable to walk, was incontinent and unable to eat or drink on her own.

I did not want her to die in a hospital cage and away from me. I gave her the gift of relieving her pain. My suffering started after that.
I had not expected my trip to the ER to be a one-way trip for her.
I chose to remember her as she was, and to remember our good times. I walked her to the bridge and allowed her to leave me. This is never an easy decision for us as pet owners.
There are veternarians who will make a home visit to help her pass. The ER is expensive, but will help relieve her pain.

Try a web search for mobile vets. One of the members here might be able to help you find a resource in your area. If you give us your location, one of us may be able to assist.
Almost every member here has lost a furbaby. We all have gone through this pain and hurt as well.
Whatever your decision, there is support for you here. The forum here -- Crossing the Bridge
contains member tributes to their furbabies and is a place to find support for your loss.

 

[Mr i need help asap]

Wish i can keep her to January i dont think i can let go but i dont wann see it get worse i wishhhh i was cat whispere i wish i could read her mind i dont wann see her suffer anymore u seen pictures right she sad and confused scared but yet doesnt make sound juss lays on her side doesnt make crying sounds what so ever her breathing is horrible yet still purss when i rub her ears or chin it taring me up i no puring mean she in pain or happy im so sad this really affected me so hurt i cant stop crying and she did seem lost quality of life honest im lost if i take water out my understanding it already spread to lung if take water out they cant give me how long or even if she make it threw the 2 weeks with out us there honestly i wish all animal got free health care and these 24 h vet place be more considerate she only 9 wish i could spent more time with her guys i think im done my heart is broken im never getting another cat also get her cremated ill cry but at least she will be with me i dont wann her be gone when im not there ..... sorry for long post guess just ranting freeking out just guilt part is kicking in wow this sucks wish i new i had get her fixed she indoor cat basically she has mammary cancer / tumor because im idiot had no idea ill never forgive my self she could lived longer and i did this to my own cat basically i no im beating my self up fact is i never once thought about it now im to late will forever blame my self and will allways feel guilty i really f ***** up even when was in heat she was angel never ever did anything bad even when i try teasing her she give me love bites wouldn't even really bite im crying soo bad exucse the long post

 

[Cataria]

I'm so, so sorry. I just lost my Nenya to mammary cancer a few weeks ago, and it ended with lung problems. It's really, really hard.

With Nenya, she had two different things causing her breathing problems:
1. Pleural effusion. It's a build up of fluids outside the lungs, which makes it hard to breathe. The vet can actually use a syringe to remove a lot of those fluids and help them breathe properly again. It's not a cure, but it does buy more time. It's hard to say how long -- it depends how fast the fluid builds back up and if there are other problems.
2. Lung tumors -- this is what finally got Nenya. We were removing the fluids, but the tumors spread to the lungs and there was nothing left to do to help her breathing.

If you can afford to get an x-ray, the vet can give you more information about what is going on, and it may give you some peace. For me, it was really hard to put Nenya down as long as I knew I had an "out" (removing the fluids), but when there was nothing more they could do, they told me.

 

[Cataria]

Just wanted to add -- I know prices are different in different areas, but $1300 sounds like an unreasonable amount. For x-rays and fluid removal, I paid something like $300-$400, and that was even at an oncology specialist. Did you say that the vet said she had to stay there for two weeks? I'm not sure I really understand why they would say that. Nenya had a LOT of treatments (surgery, several types of chemo, fluid removal) and except for the surgery, she always came home the same day. If you do decide to do the fluid removal to improve the quality of life for a little bit, I personally think it is important that the kitty can come back home.

Any other vets you can check with, especially with the pricing?

 

[foxden]

I'm so very sorry. I wish we could help you more.
I wish we could help her, too.

The ER vets ARE very expensive. That seems unfair, but they have a lot of expensive equipment and vets on standby around the clock. They try to tell you costs up front -- we pet parents DO have to decide if we can afford the treatment.

When I brought Kiki in, there was an initial charge I had to agree to pay. They looked at her quickly, and I had to agree to an additional charge to see if she could be stabilized. After several hours, they had not been able to stabilize her.
They offered to place her in ICU for several days, but also told me they could not guarantee successful treatment. That's when I had to choose.
I chose to walk Kiki to the bridge as the best thing I could do for her. I accepted that I would be hurting for some time afterwards.

It is very hard to watch someone else go through this, and I believe everyone here wishes we could make this easier for you.

Your vet could not guarantee you 3 more months with your girl, that was only his best guess at her time left.

At this point, you do not have many options left, and they are not great options.
-- The ER vet can treat her and give her a few more days of life, but these are days of life in a hospital cage, without you by her side.
-- You can continue what you are doing now, and perhaps watch her continue to decline and eventually die.
-- The ER vets can help her pass easily and allow her to be without pain. Some ER vets seem to be cold, but the vet who helped my Kiki was very warm and comforting.
-- You can call every shelter and rescue in your area tomorrow to see if they have any references for vets who will come to your home for a final visit.
I'm sorry I can't be of more help.
End of life decisions are never easy, and I can only offer you my support and my deep sorrow for your kitty and your pain.

 

[Mr i need help asap]

Honestly thank you all i dont wann do it sorry i got ask cataria how long did it in prove the quality life how long is a littlw bit a few hours few day months years im wondering for ur cat how long if u dobt mind me asking curious thanks couple days would be selfish of me to put her threw this then i make her believe everything ok then it happiens Agin i dont no wut to do everything and everyone does wann her to end suffering im juss goin prelong this make her suffer ...he right think i should say good bye i dunno how i wont think of her

 

[Cataria]

For Nenya, it gave her two extra months, with the fluid being removed about once a month (because for her, that's how long it took for the fluid to build back up). If she didn't have the lung tumors grow so much in the meantime, she could have had longer because removing fluid once a month wasn't an unreasonable rate for her.

But in contrast, my friend had a cat (Mus) with liver cancer that they didn't discover until it had spread and led to a pleural effusion. For Mus, the fluid came back within 3 days, and everyone agreed, it was unreasonable to keep putting the kitty through having the fluid removed in that situation.

It's a huge judgment call, and you'd need to balance the cost, how long it takes the fluid to come back (which you won't know until you do it at least once), and how well your cat handles the stress of the vet trips. I know it's one of the worst decisions to have to make, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with deciding that it's not worth trying -- like I said, it's only buying time. For me though, it helped me to have the extra time, and after the fluid was removed, Nenya was not suffering for a few weeks -- I did worry that I was torturing her, but she was honestly mostly okay until the tumors got too big. But all the same, it's still not a lot of time.

 

[Mr i need help asap]

I was doing alot reading i read some where sooner is better then later i dont wann her think everything ok i got go back every month do this to her there to huge lumps if u can tell last picture honestly i want to try but every one around me saying im cruel selfish

 

[Cataria]

What's important is that you make the decision that you feel is right. Other people can say what they want, but they don't know you, your cat, or your relationship. When Nenya was first diagnosed with mammary cancer (with no negative symptoms at all), I had people tell me that I should have put her down then before she even had a chance of suffering. I personally disagree with that -- and if I did what they said, I would have missed out on ten months of her life, and she was only four years old. She at least made it to her fifth birthday. Sure, she had some bad days every now and then, but she was not suffering, not until the very end when I did put her down.

The quality of life thing is important. Right now, based only on the pictures and what you said, I don't think your kitty is doing or feeling well, but whether that means putting her down or palliative care to improve quality of life, I don't think it's selfish to at least try the latter. Extending her life when the quality of life isn't improved can be cruel, but if it it helps and there's more good days than bad, my personal opinion (and people vary widely in their opinion on this), is let them have what good moments they have left. And for me, when I realize that there are no more good moments, I know it's time.

Regarding the big mammary tumor, is it causing her any pain or gross and pus-y or anything? If not, I wouldn't worry about that factoring too much into the decision at this time. Nenya is actually my third cat with mammary cancer. The first cat I lost to the cancer, Ember, had a big tumor before she went, similar to what you have in your pictures, but since the vet made a mistake during her first mastectomy surgery, the cancer had already metastasized, and I had a second cat with a mammary cancer at the exact same time with a better prognosis, we just left it go and went with palliative care for Ember. Having a tumor in the mammary tissue itself isn't really a quality of life problem and not going to really affect anything unless it is in a painful location or gets infected. It's when those cells go to someplace else in the body where they can really screw with stuff that all the problems happen.

 

[Mr i need help asap]

Im confused ur saying she can live with this they say spread to her lungs already well just come back grrrrr wish i could keep here with me hate see her like this and think it did get infected also was bleeding already 2nd one grown so fast already also did some weird things she was hitting head on wall trying hide find dark corners to stay in shaking not eating not drink when she try just keep coughing also coughter laying in her kitty litter never ever seen her do this poor girl i dont no i dont want her die in cage i wann be there for her man life sucks thanks for everything everyone ur better help then these 24 h vets

 

[mewcatmew]

I am not exactly sure about her condition with fluid, but is it possible to ask about lasix? It can help remove excess fluid and might give you a little more time to decide what to do as far as treatment or whatnot goes. Lasix is basically a pill that flushes water out of the system. It does sound like you may have some hard decisions to make. Is the cat eating?

 

[Cataria]

Sorry I wasn't clear, I meant that the size of the tumor in the mammary tissue is no longer a problem that you should worry about. Mammary cancer is very, very prone to metastasize so if the cancer has NOT metastasized yet, it's important to get rid of the tumors to try to prevent it from spreading to other parts of the body where the cancer will hurt the cat (but, mammary cancer being mammary cancer, it will nearly always metastasize eventually). Since the metastasis to the lungs has already happened, worrying about the actual original tumor is not an important factor -- that ship has already sailed, so to speak. The focus should be one the issues that are affecting the quality of life, like the lungs.

 

[Mr i need help asap]

she was hitting head on wall trying hide find dark corners to stay in shaking none stop not eating not drink when she try just keep coughing also she was laying in her kitty litter never ever seen her do this before she not even crying she has been silent for while just purs when touch her ears or underchin poor girl only thing she does is move her tail back and forth when i call her name she probably thinking shutup -_-

 

[Mr i need help asap]

Im sooo sad ....... i feel so lost now i feel like im lost at sea middle ocean alone how did 3 months pass so quickly i wann keep her longer but i cant stand see her in pain like this i could pay 1000 for removal water
But it will come back worse ill wake up she be dead .....life sooo difficult i cant take it 10 years of memories 10 years of feeding her giving water i dont wann her to gooooo she so cute im goin go crazy omg why didnt i get her fixed i didnt even no she allways been house cat she come in back yard with me she would listen all time she doesnt deserve this im really heart broken life not fair

 

[Mr i need help asap]

Pleural effusion. It's a build up of fluids outside the lungs, which makes it hard to breathe. The vet can actually use a syringe to remove a lot of those fluids and help them breathe properly again. It's not acure, but it does buy more time. It's hard tosay how long -- it depends how fast thefluid builds back up and if there are otherproblems.

Why they say it spread to her lungs and it will come back i don't understand i wann keep her till Christmas is this possible ????