I did a little experiment tonight

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What do you mean? I had a great day. Even better one today so far!!
I just meant that you seemed pretty emotional. I think people were just trying to help your cat and you took it as an attack and you lashed out at them. That is usually a sign of stress or general unhappiness with one's own situation. I was just wishing you well thoughts and hope that things get better for you. No ill will. Glad things are going better for you today!
 
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I just meant that you seemed pretty emotional. I think people were just trying to help your cat and you took it as an attack and you lashed out at them. That is usually a sign of stress or general unhappiness with one's own situation. I was just wishing you well thoughts and hope that things get better for you. No ill will. Glad things are going better for you today!
I don't need help with my cat. I don't mind advice but when people start criticizing how I am taking care of them, I get pissed. Same if somebody told me I was raising my kids wrong and I needed to do it their way. You do you and I'll do me. I don't tell people what to do in any aspect of their lives. I offer advice and let them figure out what works for them. I expect the same.
 

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Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. That's what most on here want. . .They seem to dislike those who don't blindly agree with everything they say.
Lol, can't say I've ever seen that argument turned in this direction. Usually it's the "don't drink the food manufacturer's koolaid! They want you to blindly buy! There Are Things They Don't Want You To Know!!!" Ah, well, that's the internet for ya.

I'm a firm believer that whatever works for you and your cats is fine. But you did mention that you had males who blocked in the past. And feeding a high percentage of canned food (or otherwise increasing fluid intake. But feeding canned is the easiest way) is a good way to keep their bladders flushed out so they don't block. Just a suggestion.

There are some studies if you want to poke around. Here's one:
Effect of Diet on Lower Urinary Tract Diseases in Cats

"The proportion of cats showing recurrence of lower urinary tract disease was significantly less in a group fed a canned, commercial acidifying diet (11%) than in another group fed the dry formulation of the same product (39%)"
 
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Lol, can't say I've ever seen that argument turned in this direction. Usually it's the "don't drink the food manufacturer's koolaid! They want you to blindly buy! There Are Things They Don't Want You To Know!!!" Ah, well, that's the internet for ya.

I'm a firm believer that whatever works for you and your cats is fine. But you did mention that you had males who blocked in the past. And feeding a high percentage of canned food (or otherwise increasing fluid intake. But feeding canned is the easiest way) is a good way to keep their bladders flushed out so they don't block. Just a suggestion.

There are some studies if you want to poke around. Here's one:
Effect of Diet on Lower Urinary Tract Diseases in Cats

"The proportion of cats showing recurrence of lower urinary tract disease was significantly less in a group fed a canned, commercial acidifying diet (11%) than in another group fed the dry formulation of the same product (39%)"
Yes, he blocked when he wasn't on the special urinary health diet and also when he was on Royal Canin. When on Iames Urinary Health, he was fine.
 

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I don't need help with my cat. I don't mind advice but when people start criticizing how I am taking care of them, I get pissed. Same if somebody told me I was raising my kids wrong and I needed to do it their way. You do you and I'll do me. I don't tell people what to do in any aspect of their lives. I offer advice and let them figure out what works for them. I expect the same.
I don't see anyone in this thread criticizing you or telling you that you need to do it our way. I come to these forums for wisdom from other experienced cat parents and I've learned a lot here. Folks on these forums have helped me through difficult times and even kindly spent hours creating and analyzing recipes for me. Yes, sometimes we butt heads, but we all love cats and no one is here to shame each other. Perhaps you feel attacked because you feel a little uncertain deep down about whether you're feeding the best diet. That's perfectly fine - we all go through it. Heck, I wonder all the time if I could be doing something better for my cats or if I'm doing something wrong. Don't take our advice as an attack on you. We are just trying to help.
 
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I don't see anyone in this thread criticizing you or telling you that you need to do it our way. I come to these forums for wisdom from other experienced cat parents and I've learned a lot here. Folks on these forums have helped me through difficult times and even kindly spent hours creating and analyzing recipes for me. Yes, sometimes we butt heads, but we all love cats and no one is here to shame each other. Perhaps you feel attacked because you feel a little uncertain deep down about whether you're feeding the best diet. That's perfectly fine - we all go through it. Heck, I wonder all the time if I could be doing something better for my cats or if I'm doing something wrong. Don't take our advice as an attack on you. We are just trying to help.


All I am asking is to stop with the unsolicited advice. There are plenty of other people on here asking for advice.
 
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I am confident in my diet as it has worked for over 40 years. The attack is the links and comments comparing dry food to poison and giving animals cancer. Maybe not in this thread but others I have posted in reference how I feed my cats.

All I am asking is to stop with the unsolicited advice. There are plenty of people on here asking for advice. I am not.
I believe the attack is on dry food, not on you. And there's lots of great evidence out there to show that kibble is unhealthy for cats. Dismissing this as a personal attack on you (which it is not) or a conspiracy theory doesn't make it untrue.

I have family members who smoked cigarettes their entire lives and lived to be 80+ without any serious health issues. Should I dismiss all the evidence showing the harms of nicotine?

You started a thread and people are responding to you. Not every response has to be one that you agree with or one that you solicited. This is the nature of online forums.
 
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I believe the attack is on dry food, not on you. And there's lots of great evidence out there to show that kibble is unhealthy for cats. Dismissing this as a personal attack on you (which it is not) or a conspiracy theory doesn't make it untrue.

I have family members who smoked cigarettes their entire lives and lived to be 80+ without any serious health issues. Should I dismiss all the evidence showing the harms of nicotine?

You started a thread and people are responding to you. Not every response has to be one that you agree with or one that you solicited. This is the nature of online forums.
Really? This is how they work?? I will have to tell the members of the forum I've been apart of for almost 20 years that we've been doing it wrong all along. :rolleyes:
 

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Neither of my cats ever ate a whole 3 oz can at a meal, even my overweight, food shoveling Jasmine :lol: Lydia won't even eat a whole ounce at a time.
 

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Neither of my cats ever ate a whole 3 oz can at a meal, even my overweight, food shoveling Jasmine :lol: Lydia won't even eat a whole ounce at a time.
Why do cats do this? I throw soo much food away because my daughter's cat will only eat at most 1/3 of a can or pouch. And I think my cat is defective. He will not even lick a food with fish in it. lol
 

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Why do cats do this? I throw soo much food away because my daughter's cat will only eat at most 1/3 of a can or pouch. And I think my cat is defective. He will not even lick a food with fish in it. lol
Lol Lydia won't eat anything that has tuna in it or unnamed fish. Salmon seems to be okay though!

Cats, I tell you!
 
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