how can a poor canned food be better

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fibre 1.5 maximum

ash 2.7 maximum

taurine 00.5 minimum

 i didnt put them in the calculator yet
 

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OK, with that info I got 13% carbs. So that's better :D.

The highest-carb canned food I've seen is one of the regular (not grain-free) 4Health cannd foods, it was 19% carbs. That was a while ago, they might have changed their recipe, though.
 
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​You are correct.  It is 68.18 protein and fat, which leaves almost 32% carbs (from rice).  I keep shopping for something else.  There are a lot of inexpensive grain and vegetable-free canned choices...or at least lower carbs than that one.
what might the label list look like for ingredients?

i have to get the grocery store ones or from a walmart
 
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OK, with that info I got 13% carbs. So that's better
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The highest-carb canned food I've seen is one of the regular (not grain-free) 4Health cannd foods, it was 19% carbs. That was a while ago, they might have changed their recipe, though.
that does look better

 
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i really had wet food all wrong

i thought it was mostly water being paid for

and that it was just "junk"

ive learned alot  from the answers here i got
 

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that does look better

​Yes, it does look better at 13%.  Fiber is technically a carbohydrate, but it's probably non- soluble fiber, which would pass through undigested.  They used to think that high ash content caused urine crystals, but it looks like more modern studies refute that.
 
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the other concern i had with feeding wet food versus dry food

is the fact that i may not always be able to feed the 2nd

feeding at the same time every day

i wanted to feed twice a day but dont always get home at 

the same time every day

how much is a fair delay for the 2nd feeding?

an hour different or half hour or how long?
 

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I would do an automatic feeder if you can't be home by a specific time. Think about how you feel if your lunch happens late because you are busy at work. There are some with ice packs to keep the food fresher. But you can put the food in before leaving and set it to open on time. Then you don't have to worry and you don't come home to an unhappy kitty. I know there are several people who do the same but for early mornings so their cats don't wake them up too early on weekends or days they sleep in.
 
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Adult cats should be fine as long as they are getting the right number of calories each day.  (I would worry a bit more on timing with young kittens.)  So 2 meals a day, morning and evening at any time, should be fine.  I try to feed my senior at 12-hour intervals (7am and 7pm, 8am and 8pm, 9am and 9pm...I don't get up at the same time every day, but he's "loudest" in the morning).  It doesn't always work out that way though, if I go out for a little while after work.
 

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the other concern i had with feeding wet food versus dry food

is the fact that i may not always be able to feed the 2nd

feeding at the same time every day

i wanted to feed twice a day but dont always get home at 

the same time every day

how much is a fair delay for the 2nd feeding?

an hour different or half hour or how long?
My cats never get fed "on time" LOL. My cats get fed somewhere between 8 and 12 hours apart. I just split their total amount between two meals and plop it down whenever I get a chance. That's with canned food, and  no they don't eat it all in one sitting/meal. ;) 
 
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Ok the reason low quality canned food is considered to be better than expensive dry is mostly because of the moisture factor. Cats cannot tell how thirsty they really are because they are supposed to get most of the moisture from their prey. Mice are what around 70% water? Dry food fed cats are very dehydrated because of this which leads to health issues. Even if the cat is drinking some water its not enough. Dry food is also very processed.
 
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so i guess whens shes hungry she will stop

licking the juice and eat some of the actual food?

i began last night and she did eat a tsp(i didnt

want to give too much in case it was too rich)

but just licked the juice this morning

i took away the dry cause she doesnt 

like it anyway to try to encourage eating

the wet

do i go cold turkey or leave a bit of dry out for a few days
 
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A slow transition is recommended.  Start with 25% wet and 75% dry.  Work up to 50/50 in about 3-4 days, and complete the transition in about a week.  Some cats have cast-iron stomachs and can switch cold turkey, but you don't know if a fast switch will upset her digestion for a little while so I'd play it safe.

You may need to stir the gravy into the food if she won't eat anything but lick the gravy.  It's good she is licking it though, so she is attracted to the scent.  Give her another day or two before worrying over stirring and such.
 
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Just a small addendum---by-product meal is a rendered product and can include 4-D animals (dead, dying, diseased, or down), but "fresh" by-products (as in canned food) are not rendered and so cannot include 4-D animals. One little word makes a difference
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I try to avoid dry foods with by-product meal but I'm OK with by-products in canned food (watch out, though, because some canned foods do have by-product meal for some reason). Given a choice of a food with no by-products but a lot of plant matter, and food with by-products but little plant matter, I'd go with the by-products.
the 4-D animals sound pretty gross

is it just expensive foods without them?
 
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A slow transition is recommended.  Start with 25% wet and 75% dry.  Work up to 50/50 in about 3-4 days, and complete the transition in about a week.  Some cats have cast-iron stomachs and can switch cold turkey, but you don't know if a fast switch will upset her digestion for a little while so I'd play it safe.

You may need to stir the gravy into the food if she won't eat anything but lick the gravy.  It's good she is licking it though, so she is attracted to the scent.  Give her another day or two before worrying over stirring and such.
she eats 1/4 cup dry food

and the can says 1 can for her weight

so what would that be in amounts to slowly switch?

for twice a day
 
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she eats 1/4 cup dry food

and the can says 1 can for her weight

so what would that be in amounts to slowly switch?

for twice a day
4 Tablespoons = 1/4 Cup

Per day:

Start her with 3 Tablespoons of dry and 1/4 can of food

On day 2-3, change to 2 Tbsp of dry and 1/2 can of food

On day 3-5, change to 1 Tbsp of dry and 3/4 can of food

In about a week, you should have her transitioned.

Make sure she is eating the canned food.  You don't want to starve her.

If she is hungriest first thing in the morning, offer her canned food with no dry food until she eats the wet.
 
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4 Tablespoons = 1/4 Cup

Per day:

Start her with 3 Tablespoons of dry and 1/4 can of food

On day 2-3, change to 2 Tbsp of dry and 1/2 can of food

On day 3-5, change to 1 Tbsp of dry and 3/4 can of food

In about a week, you should have her transitioned.

Make sure she is eating the canned food.  You don't want to starve her.

If she is hungriest first thing in the morning, offer her canned food with no dry food until she eats the wet.
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how long will the canned food keep in

the fridge after opened?

i read different suggesstions

but whats the best

i have it in a bag right now until 

i get a food storage container
 

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It should be fine for 3 days...probably 4 is all right.  If your cat refuses it on day 3 or 4, then it may be "safe" but not fresh enough for her taste buds.  You might put refrigerated food on a warmed plate to bring the temp up a bit, or add a teaspoon or so of warm water.

You can also freeze it in ice cube trays, if you are using a brand in the very large cans.
 
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i forgot and gave it to her right out of the fridge

last night it was warm off the store shelf

maybe thats why she didnt eat it this morning

i dont have a way to heat it so i have to take it 

out to let it get warm so how long can it stay 

out of the fridge

i have to include the time its getting warm 

and the time to leave it out for her
 
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