I don't know, he might be a purebred, the first of his kind, the Egyptian "meow" cat
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Egyptian Mau?
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Gotta love it! That is cute. and as far as the word is concerned, that was not far off since the word "Mau" (Arabic for cat) is based off the sound a cat makes. There are several languages where the word for cat is similar to 'meow' .They are beautiful
at breed he thought Neeko might be. He texted me after the visit to let me know Neeko was healthy and might be an Egyptian "Meow" cat
But vets usually know very little about cat breeds unless they happen to be involved in the cat fancy themselves, or maybe a feline repro specialist with many patients who are pedigreed cats.The likelihood of happening to adopt an Egyptian Mau without papers or is extremely low. and even less likely for a kitten, that would sell for US $800 or more.
Bengal mix would be more likely than an Egyptian Mau. since Bengals are much less rare, and there are a lot of BYB Bengals .... but there are also spotted tabby "pure domestic shorthair" ( I like that phrase that someone used recently!) kitties.
But re those 2 adorable kittens in the photo in this thread I would not rule out being part Savannah. That very small spot pattern is something I' ve heard is sometimes happening in Savannahs and IIRC, a breeder said it actually was a variation in the Serval's spotted tabby pattern. & they resemble Savannah more than Bengal. Not that I'm saying they must be part one or the other! In fact, when it comes to that freckle pattern I've also heard about something like that popping up in domestic cats in Asia. So maybe it happens elsewhere too.
Re number of Savannah breeders, the ones listed on that website would not be all the SV breeders in the US. A lot of people have jumped on the bandwagon including quite a few not very responsible ones who are seeing visions of dollar signs dancing in their eyes. and no doubt there are people selling unaltered kittens and not bothering to follow up.
No it still would not be a huge number, and I am not saying it is definite they are part Savannah or even that it's likely. but I can't say impossible. I wonder if that actually is something that might be determined via genetic testing, since another species is involved.
I have a male cat named Tristan whom I never call Tristan. I've been calling him 'Mao' since he was just a few months old. He is just an ordinary tabby mixed shorthair. But he was so quiet and shy for the first several months of his life that I actually had to start engaging him in conversation. He loved to watch you, but rarely interacted, and when interaction was forced, he would just run away. So this engagement was one-sided for a while, and one day, he threw me off the truck by opening his mouth wide, saying, 'MAO!' No 'e' in his meows whatsoever. Now he talks all the time. Mao! Mao!
I will tell you he doesn't look like a Mau either! But I call him one. ;0
No 'e' in his meows whatsoever. Now he talks all the time. Mao! Mao!I will tell you he doesn't look like a Mau either! But I call him one. ;0
Haha. See my post on my 'Mao' cat, not to be confused with the Mau cat or the new breed Meow cat!
Oriental, with all of the breeders/breeds in the country, you can always find a rescue group for that named breed, it seems. This says that not every one who gets one knows how to treat them or how to care for their lines like someone who is educated would.
I would think it a possibility that a named breed (which people do not usually neuter right away on the notion they can breed their cats) could have been 1) rescued intact and taken to live in a household with shorthair domestic mixes, and mated of his own volition or 2) bought directly from a breeder and left to roam among other mixed-lines cats and mated of his own volition. Offspring of this kind of relationship wouldn't be purebred or papered.
To assume that the pure breeds are always and only in austere, designated, and sterile reproduction is not realistic. There are probably several hundred Maine Coone 'breeders' if you count the ones whose felines reproduce of their own accord. I know of several people who keep a named breed because they have always wanted that breed in the same house as their rescues.
That is funny about your Mao cat... I know an Oriental named Tristan who also says "MAO!"
actually I know a lot of cats who say MAO . Or MAAAAAAOOOO. ( or maybe they mean MAAAAAUUU)
actually I know a lot of cats who say MAO . Or MAAAAAAOOOO. ( or maybe they mean MAAAAAUUU)
Those sound like BYBs - a genuine Maine Coon has a pedigree and is registered. If cats are reproducing of their own accord then unless they are kept so only the breeder's male can get the chance to mate with them the pedigree of the kittens cannot be known.
The usual arrangement in the UK for reputable breeders (those who register kittens, usually with the GCCF) is that studs live out in stud houses and females and neuters live in the house. The stud house is like a large shed usually with an outside run, heated, and with a small separate area for the queen for when she first turns up. It should have a double door entrance, so you can let yourself into a small foyer, close the outer door and then open the inner one.
I suspect there are several hundred decent Maine Coon breeders in the US, and several thousand BYBs producing alleged 'maine coons'.
It always catches me by surprise- he is otherwise such a fragile little thing. And then he talks. 'MAO!' Wow!
Right. Not by legal breeders but still making kittens.
What are BYBs? I'm not educated in the field. I still don't see E. Mau in the pictured kittens. I see a bit of Savannah or ocicat, which is another breed that people may just buy one of on a fancy and allow to procreate with their own mutts. (No offense to mutt owner- nothing wrong with mutts! I have all mutts and wondered if they had a named breed in them and also wondered how it were possible.)
What are BYBs? I'm not educated in the field. I still don't see E. Mau in the pictured kittens. I see a bit of Savannah or ocicat, which is another breed that people may just buy one of on a fancy and allow to procreate with their own mutts. (No offense to mutt owner- nothing wrong with mutts! I have all mutts and wondered if they had a named breed in them and also wondered how it were possible.)
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I think the boy looks like Bengal - I've never seen a moggy looking like that!
Would be interesting to see them now as adults?
Whatever they are, they are TOTALLY GORGEOUS!! I myself am totally in love with Oriental cats (I have a Chocolate Point Siamese) but I'd definitely consider a Bengal - they are beautiful!! Not quite as nice in character as oris, though, I think....I like a clingy cat!!
Would be interesting to see them now as adults?
Whatever they are, they are TOTALLY GORGEOUS!! I myself am totally in love with Oriental cats (I have a Chocolate Point Siamese) but I'd definitely consider a Bengal - they are beautiful!! Not quite as nice in character as oris, though, I think....I like a clingy cat!!
Nearly all cats (over 90%) don't contain any pedigree at all. Add to that that the Mau is a fairly new breed and relatively rare... I'm sure she won't have any Mau in her.
She's lovely, she's a domestic shorthair (e.g. shorthair cat of no particular breed) and she's a brown (genetically black) tabby. Since you haven't shown a photo of her pattern on her side I have no idea which tabby patter she is - there are four of them.
She's lovely, she's a domestic shorthair (e.g. shorthair cat of no particular breed) and she's a brown (genetically black) tabby. Since you haven't shown a photo of her pattern on her side I have no idea which tabby patter she is - there are four of them.
She looks like a blue tabby on my monitor. But agreed, can't see any Mau in her.
You're right, she's blue tabby.
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OK there are the photos What's the verdict? I tried to get a photos of her standing up .... her front legs are markedy shorter than the back legs,
She had the skin flap from her mid flank that meets her back legs at knee..... When has her eyes wide open they are almond shape and the color of her eyes is green around pupil and orange or copper at edges.
OK there are the photos What's the verdict? I tried to get a photos of her standing up .... her front legs are markedy shorter than the back legs,
She had the skin flap from her mid flank that meets her back legs at knee..... When has her eyes wide open they are almond shape and the color of her eyes is green around pupil and orange or copper at edges.
Lots of cats have shorter front legs and a fold of skin... Her head is not like a Mau and she doesn't have the 'worried' expression they should have. Also blue is not an allowed colour, though I have no idea if the odd blue kittens do pop up in Mau litters. Coat also doesn't look like the correct texture for a Mau.
She is lovely, she's a domestic shorthair and a blue spotted tabby.
She is lovely, she's a domestic shorthair and a blue spotted tabby.
Daisey , Daisey.... Well, I am not seeing Mau but she sure is pretty! My Siamese (Thai) have the skin flaps from knee to flank too - lots of cats do, maybe most cats, though in chubby cats it's less noticeable because that lower abdomen is filled up with fat. I do think that some Maus have even more of the flaps there. but just having skin flaps there isn't a sign of any breed.
.... Anyway back to Miss Daisey. Hmmmmmm. She does have an interesting spotted pattern. some of those spots especially in the 3rd photo, almost look kind of rosette-y . Hard to see on the blue but can anyone else see in that 3rd photo , it looks like might be two toned spots? (Now people will think I am seeing mixes of exotic hybrid breeds everywhere! )
.... Anyway back to Miss Daisey. Hmmmmmm. She does have an interesting spotted pattern. some of those spots especially in the 3rd photo, almost look kind of rosette-y . Hard to see on the blue but can anyone else see in that 3rd photo , it looks like might be two toned spots? (Now people will think I am seeing mixes of exotic hybrid breeds everywhere! )
