Drinking A Lot

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I've decided to open a new thread (hope that's not a problem) because things got complicated.
My cat is drinking and urinating a lot. I mean a lot: I notice him by the water bowl 4-6 times a day, and he's also eating canned food.
We started to worry a week ago, during NSAIDs therapy (onsior), because this behavior became impossible to go unnoticed, but we're not totally sure it wasn't a gradual development.
So, today the vet did a complete blood and urine panel. No kidney damage (creatinine is ever lower than before!), no liver damage, normal albumin, globulin and electrolytes, except low sodium because he is overhydrated. Urine are quite normal too: low specific gravity (again, overhydrated) but no glucose, proteins, bacteria or anything weird. We didn't test the thyroid gland, because he's only 1 year old, and also a month ago it was normal.
Any food for thought? :stars:

PS: as usual, sorry for my english! I try to be as clear as possible, but it's not my first language.
 

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Hi!
Your English is great :)
If you add a little water to his canned food, would that make any difference?

Is your water salty? Is he getting too much salt/sodium from his food?
 
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Hi!
Your English is great :)
If you add a little water to his canned food, would that make any difference?

Is your water salty? Is he getting too much salt/sodium from his food?
We used to add a little hot water to his food to warm it up. We stopped recently, we can try again. But I guess it would be the same, maybe he would drink less from the bowl, but he will still be overhydrated.
The sodium it's a good point, actually. He's taking a couple of supplements (Fortiflora and Glupacur for joints) that are a bit salty, but it's been almost a month since we introduced both of them, so the timing doesn't add up. The water it's not salty though, it's the same mineral water I am drinking, and I suffer from kidney stones...so it's really tasteless and bland :lol:
Could be a couple of different factors, maybe. I am kinda worried to be honest, because with a urine gravity around 1010, it's way too much water for a normal cat.
 

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I was trying to think of whether there'd be any difference in consuming water with food, rather than drinking it, I don't know...

Can you try plain tap water and see if there's a change in the quantity he's consuming?
 
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sounds like diabetus possibly. hanging out by the water bowl is normal for this
Has your kitty been checked for diabetes or kidney disease?
Blood glucose and urine glucose it's normal, so it's not diabetes. Creatinine it's normal too. It's not kidney disease either. I'm glad, but it's really weird
 

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Blood glucose and urine glucose it's normal, so it's not diabetes. Creatinine it's normal too. It's not kidney disease either. I'm glad, but it's really weird
whats the glucose readings??
 

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Glad it’s not diabetes or his kidneys. Can cats get Cushings disease? I had a dog with that years ago and he drank lots.
 

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I think the mineral water might have something to do with things, --try just plain water :) or even distilled water temporarily. Even if he still drinks as much, it might be better for his liver and kidneys.
 
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I think the mineral water might have something to do with things, --try just plain water :)
I will! I'm kinda scared of tap water here in Perugia, since it's really calcareous (and smell pretty bad). But it's definitely worth a try. I will change tonight and let you know, thank you!
Glad it’s not diabetes or his kidneys. Can cats get Cushings disease? I had a dog with that years ago and he drank lots.
Yes, they can, though it's rare and almost always present in old cats, expecially female and with diabetes. Merlin is one year old (to be fair, he's eleven months and a week old!), so it would be almost impossible. But at the vet office we discussed cushing disease, diabetes insipidus and psychogenic polydipsia. Incredibly rare disease in his case, but we're gonna have to rule out those too, if he doesn't get better.
 

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I see, I didn't realize the tap water quality is that questionable.
Can you obtain distilled water? Or filter the tap water?
 
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I see, I didn't realize the tap water quality is that questionable.
Can you obtain distilled water? Or filter the tap water?
It's not so much the quality, more the taste. It's suitable for drinking, so he will be fine. People with kidney stones should avoid tap water in many italian cities, because it's full of calcium. Good for bones, bad for stones! But anyway, I don't know if the same applies to cat stones. I will ask the vet :headshake: if anything, he's intrigued by the situation
 

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Yes, the iatrogenic cushing disease, the same occurs in humans. Did you stop the cortisone treatment?

The first indication that I had that something was wrong was when her skin tore at a touch at the vet's. It was too late to do anything because the vet said her insides were as delicate as her skin. I refused to risk her internal hemorrhaging, so I said goodbye right then. He had not warned me Cushings was a possibility. I had no choice but to use the cortisone or put her down because he refused to take her bad teeth out. He said it was better to have the cortisone shots. This was before there was any other pain medicines that vets offered for cats.

She was 16 when the treatment started, 17 when she had to be pts. I still think pulling the teeth would have been better. I had the gingivitis and I know how it feels. Let us say, he will never be the vet his father was.
 

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I was always told not to give a mineral water to my cats as it contains some electrolytes not necessarily good for cats. I usually filter the tap water but not sure if it lowers the calcium level? If I were you, I would change the bottled water for a spring or purified water, just plain water without any minerals.
 
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