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I am not sure what you mean. A red-based kitty is phenotypically a tabby. For a red-based color, the solid (non-agouti) gene does not make the tabby pattern any less easy to see.What I was trying to say was "what we see with the eye". The tabby markings will still be there for a red-based kitty. We just have to look really close sometimes to see them. If the color is very intense, the tabby marking pattern may not be as easy to see with the eye, unless we're looking hard for it. Make sense?