Which One Is Better?

[joyfulrose]

Tiki Cat Born Carnivore Chicken & Fish Luau

Ingredients:
Deboned chicken, chicken meal, herring, salmon meal, herring meal, dried egg product, whole peas, tapioca flour, natural salmon flavor, brewer's dried yeast, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), whole chickpeas, ground whole flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, tomato pomace, calcium sulfate, chicory extract, vitamin E supplement, taurine, pumpkin, salmon oil, iron sulfate, zinc sulfate, niacin supplement (vitamin B3), manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, vitamin A acetate, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), calcium D-pantothenate, riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, calcium iodate, folic acid, sodium selenite, rosemary extract.
Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 46.0%Crude Fat (min) 20.0%Crude Fiber (max) 3.0%Moisture (max) 10.0%Ash 9.9%
Calorie Content: 482 kcal/cup

FUSSIE CAT MARKET FRESH CHICKEN & TURKEY RECIPE

Ingredients:
Chicken, Chicken Meal, Peas, Turkey Meal, Pea Flour, Chickpeas, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Natural Flavors, Flax Seeds, Dicalcium Phosphate, Alfalfa Meal, Fructooligosaccharide, Minerals (Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate), Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Dl Methionine, Vitamins (Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement), Taurine, Blueberries, Cranberries, Lactic Acid, Kelp Meal, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Rosemary Extract.
Guaranteed Analysis:
CRUDE PROTEIN 36.0% min CRUDE FAT 16.0% min CRUDE FIBER 5.0% max CARBOHYDRATES 27.0% MOISTURE 10.0% max CALCIUM 1.0% min MAGNESIUM 0.10% ASH 7.5% PHOSPHOROUS 0.8% min OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS 1.8% min OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS 1.8% min
Caloric Content: 410 kcal/cup

FARMINA N&D PUMPKIN: VENISON, PUMPKIN AND APPLE RECIPE

Ingredients:
Fresh boneless venison (28%), dehydrated venison (26%), pea starch, chicken fat, dehydrated pumpkin (5%), dehydrated whole eggs, fresh herring, dehydrated herring, dehydrated herring, herring oil, dried carrots, sun-cured alfalfa meal, inulin, fructooligosaccharides, yeast extract (source of mannan-oligosaccharides), dehydrated apple (0.5%), dehydrated blueberry, dehydrated pomegranate, dehydrated spinach, psyllium (0.3%), dehydrated sweet orange, salt, brewers dried yeast, turmeric (0.2%), glucosamine, chondroitin sulfate, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, ascorbic acid, niacin, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine hydrochloride, biotin, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, choline chloride, beta‐carotene, zinc methionine hydroxy analogue chelate, manganese methionine hydroxy analogue chelate, ferrous glycine, copper methionine hydroxy analogue chelate, DL‐methionine, taurine, L-Carnitine, aloe vera extract, green tea extract, rosemary extract, mixed tocopherols (a preservative). SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION:
Nutritional additives: Vitamin A 18000IU; Vitamin D3 1200IU; Vitamin E 600mg; Vitamin C 300mg; Niacin 150mg; Pantothenic Acid 50mg; Vitamin B2 20mg; Vitamin B6 8.1mg; Vitamin B1 10mg; Vitamin H 1.5mg; folic acid 1.5mg; Vitamin B12 0.1mg; choline chloride 2500mg; Beta‐carotene 1.5mg; zinc chelate of the analogous methionine hydroxylase 910mg; manganese chelate of the analogous methionine hydroxylase 380mg; ferrous chelate of glycine hydrate 250mg; copper chelate of the analogous methionine hydroxylase 88mg; selenised yeast inactivated 0.40mg; DL‐methionine 5000mg; taurine 4000mg. Organoleptic additives: aloe vera extract 1000mg; green tea extract 100mg; rosemary extract. Antioxidants: tocopherol‐rich extracts of natural origin.
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
crude protein 42.00%; crude fats 20.00%; crude fibres 1.80%; moisture (max) 8.00%; crude ash 8.70%; Calcium 1.50%; Phosphorus 1.30%; Omega‐6 3.40%; Omega‐3 0.90%; Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA*) (min): 0.50%; Eicosapentaenoic Acid (EPA*) (min): 0.30%; Glucosamine* (min): 1200mg/kg; Chondroitin sulfate* (min): 900mg/kg. *Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Cat Food Nutrient Profiles.
Caloric Content: 411 Kcal/cup


Instinct by Nature's Variety Original Grain-Free Recipe with Real Duck

Ingredients:
Duck, Turkey Meal, Chicken Meal, Menhaden Fish Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Peas, Duck Meal, Tapioca, Dried Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor, Suncured Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, Niacin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin), Salt, Carrots, Apples, Cranberries, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide), Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Freeze Dried Duck (including Freeze Dried Ground Duck Bone), DL-Methionine, Pumpkinseeds, Dried Bacillus coagulans Fermentation Product, Rosemary Extract.
Guaranteed Analysis:
CRUDE PROTEIN 41.0% min CRUDE FAT 21.5% min CRUDE FIBER 3.5% max MOISTURE 9.0% max VITAMIN E 100 IU/kg min ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C) 85 mg/kg min OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS 0.4% min OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS 3.6% min BACILLUS COAGULANTS 60,000,000 CFU/lb min
Caloric Content: 522 kcal/cup

 

[lalagimp]

Tiki, but because I'm biased on alfalfa meal.
I have cats AND guinea pigs. They don't digest the hay. I rarely use alfalfa because that's for pregnant and young guinea pigs, but I know exactly what happens when they eat timothy or orchard grass. If they process legume hay differently, someone give me a clue.
The hay comes out exactly as it went in, sometimes hanging as threads from their butt and have to be pulled out. My assumption is alfalfa hay is purely a filler.

Some manufacturers say it has protein benefits, but cats are obligate carnivores and it doesn't always work that way. They need meat protein.

 

[joyfulrose]

Tiki, but because I'm biased on alfalfa meal.
I have cats AND guinea pigs. They don't digest the hay. I rarely use alfalfa because that's for pregnant and young guinea pigs, but I know exactly what happens when they eat timothy or orchard grass. If they process legume hay differently, someone give me a clue.
The hay comes out exactly as it went in, sometimes hanging as threads from their butt and have to be pulled out. My assumption is alfalfa hay is purely a filler.

Some manufacturers say it has protein benefits, but cats are obligate carnivores and it doesn't always work that way. They need meat protein.

Have you fed Tiki to your cats? How did they do on it?

 

[lalagimp]

We do Tiki After Dark because my ladies do not favor the fishies, and everything else Tiki has seems to be poultry/fish blend. They won't eat the half a quail egg in the one flavor, so I toss it to Tommy.

 

[joyfulrose]

We do Tiki After Dark because my ladies do not favor the fishies, and everything else Tiki has seems to be poultry/fish blend. They won't eat the half a quail egg in the one flavor, so I toss it to Tommy.

Mine only like the Tiki mousse chicken and egg or chicken and pumpkin. I was asking about the Tiki cat dry food. Have you or has anyone else tried it??

 

[lalagimp]

Ask if they have any samples or coupons you can use. Dr elseys cleanprotein was released before Tiki dry was, and I've been using it as their kibble base while I encourage them to eat wet food all day as well.
I went from NV instinct chicken kibble to Dr E.
Oddly when I checked formulas today it looks like NV instinct chicken doesn't contain the alfalfa meal that duck does.

 

[KarenKat]

I like the Tiki kibble best, shortly followed by the Instinct. I haven’t fed any of these foods, but based on the ingredients I like that Tiki has more meat before peas than the others


Tiki Cat: meat, meat, fish, fish, fish, egg, whole peas...
Fussie Cat: Meat, meat, peas
Farmina: Meat, meat, pea protein
Instinct: Meat, meat, meat, fish, meat fat, peas

That’s basically how I evaluate - I want as much meat as possible as early in the ingredient list as possible.

 

[Kat0121]

I like the Tiki kibble best, shortly followed by the Instinct. I haven’t fed any of these foods, but based on the ingredients I like that Tiki has more meat before peas than the others


Tiki Cat: meat, meat, fish, fish, fish, egg, whole peas...
Fussie Cat: Meat, meat, peas
Farmina: Meat, meat, pea protein
Instinct: Meat, meat, meat, fish, meat fat, peas

That’s basically how I evaluate - I want as much meat as possible as early in the ingredient list as possible.

I agree. I try to avoid fish so we went with the Dr. Elsey's chicken. The girls like it so it's a win-win. Lily really likes it and she's the pickier of the 2.