Check out the Copica...taking hybrid to the next level? (corgi x cockapoo)
I don't really understand this...People will always continue to naively think that if something costs more, its better (especially in terms of dogs)....Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45
And if cockapoos have been around that long, why are people still insisting they are purebred dogs and charging hundreds for them?
I got hung up on once because I called a "Cordach" breeder and asked her if she knew how many puppies were euthanized a year because of people like her.Originally Posted by Loveysmummy
I know that lab people are really up in arms everywhere about the labradoodle phenomenon! I see at least 3-4 labradoodle ads a week (and they are the horrible.."I have pups all the time!" ads)...and at least a few other of the glorified mixes ads as well. I ALWAYS want to call them up and give them a piece of my mind!
Yep I know all of this - and I'm certain that a properly recognised and registered Labradoodle breed is at least ten years away, however I still think it is a breed that is worth working on and worth doing properly - unlike all the other doodles, poos and so forth around!Originally Posted by CherokeeDreams
I got hung up on once because I called a "Cordach" breeder and asked her if she knew how many puppies were euthanized a year because of people like her.
KitEKats4Eva!- Labradoodles have a long way to go. To be recognized as a breed, they have to be a mix of three or more breeds and breed true past the F4 or 5 generation.
Know what happens when you breed F2 labradoodles? You get some puppies that look like labs, and some that look like poodles. They do not breed true. Hence, they will not be a breed.
Just making sure. I wasn't trying to arguemenative or meanOriginally Posted by KitEKats4Eva!
Yep I know all of this - and I'm certain that a properly recognised and registered Labradoodle breed is at least ten years away, however I still think it is a breed that is worth working on and worth doing properly - unlike all the other doodles, poos and so forth around!
Funny about your first comment - I did that too, to an American site that sold `purebred' Goldendoodles and so many other crosses. They have this huge site that is a big marketing ploy, basically, no screening is done of their potential buyers, and worst of all - they do not allow people to come and view the dogs - you have to buy online and you have to pay upfront - and I am talking literally thousands of dollars.
I emailed them saying that they were nothing more than a puppy mill and so on, and got the most abusive email imaginable back. Others I know who also emailed them - pretending to potential buyers, mostly - and asked informed questions, also got the same deal. I reported them to the ASPCA, but I don't know what happened, if anything. Unbelievable.
I know that!! No offence taken whatsoever!Originally Posted by CherokeeDreams
Just making sure. I wasn't trying to arguemenative or mean
I really wish more people would call these BYBs or e-mail them. I honestly wonder sometimes if they actually know how many animals are put to sleep a year.
Who knows, maybe one doesn't and they could be educated?
Did you see the Sheltie-doodle? That was UGLY! Big poofy curly coat...I don't like it at all (I have a sheltie).Originally Posted by Telynn
Some of them are really cute, like the Golden Sheltie, but some are....well.... not. Like the poor doodleman pinchers.
I'm not sure if you've read this whole thread or just posted after reading the first couple of posts. But if you read the rest of my entries you'll see that you and I are pretty much on the same page. I acknowledged in one of my first posts in this thread that the Labradoodle is responsible for all of these other so-called `designer' mixes, and that makes me very sad. I also said that the Labradoodle is at least ten years away from being recognised as a breed. I also suggest that you do a little reading on the history of the Labradoodle before you say that is was just scrounging up a couple of mutts and selling them for thousands. This was not the case at all. I completely agree with your sentiment, and completely understand why you are so angry about it. It makes me angry too. However this site is not about being nasty, sarcastic or aggressive to other members, and certainly there are very few here who are unaware of the things you are saying, particularly me. I think you'll find all you need to know if you take the time to read all of my posts in this thread, and then perhaps you might have a little less to say in anger.Originally Posted by kittiLuv
What I have yet to understand is how the "breeders" of these mutts actually convince people that they're worth thousands of dollars. If someone pays $1500.00 for a puppy, would'nt you want some sort registration papers for it?? How do the mutt breeders explain that??? HMM??
And as far as "jumping on the bandwagon" goes, it was the LABRADOODLE that started that in the first place!! To scrounge up a couple of mutts, produce a litter or 2 or 3 or 15, and ask outrageous prices??? Do you blame the breeder (I even have a hard time calling them that....)or do you blame the ignorance of the people seeking them out?? Without demand, there would be no supply. Obviously, it's confirmed by that list. I could go off on this all day, as I think many of us could. Sad part is that I also know it will accomplish nothing because as long as there are soo many "uneducated" people out there duped into buying them, there will continue to be an endless flow of other "uneducated" people who are more than happy to keep the supply going!! And remember, the AKC has always prided itself on the efforts it puts forth to preserve the breeds it "recognizes". Breeds whose standards have taken decades to evolve. Centuries even, in some cases. You don't "create" a gene pool overnight and you don't need to be breeder to know that. It's basic Biology 101.