So I need some kind of help with my roommate, and this is like the only place off the top of my head that might be able to give me some advice. Sorry this is really long.
Some of you already know me, and you know I have 3 cats of my own, and my roommate downstairs is a small breeder. She only has 6 cats which is small in my head, because I have seen her home when she had 30 and it was really really bad, and she said she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want to do that again because she couldnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t handle it and I trusted her that she could handle 6 cats +kittens. But with that in my head, I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t really want her to move in. But she is a friend and she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t have a place, and she did manage to surrender many of her cats. And I let her move in with me, with the belief that she was going to stop breeding and fix her cats. Because I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want a breeder in my house, I have had nothing but bad experiences with bad breeders, to me its like if you say you breed, I automatically think you probably made a mess of it. But I had hoped that she could turn this around... I believed that she was strong, and could make the right choices. Maybe that should could show me that not all breeders are bad. And if she wanted to breed after she lived here, she is to find foster homes for the cats so they donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t breed while she is in my house. I still didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]tâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji] want her moving in breeding. You donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t breed while renting someoneâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s basement. This was the agreement. Because I have seen some really bad breeders in this city with 100 cats, and I have seen how she was, and I have seen the mess it makes, the smell, and how stressed it makes the poor kitties. I have seen them pull out their hair, and die of diseaseâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s.. and worse I have bought pure bread cats in the past only to have them die on me at the age of 5... I knew in my heart it wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t right. but in this city, its hard enough to find a place to rent that even allows you to have even ONE cat... these are things I have just learnt from. and I don't want in my house. Now if I were to buy purebread again, I not only would spend 500 bucks for them but also another 500 to check for everything to make sure they are healthy... and more to fix them so they don't breed. for myself, everything I have learnt, I know what is needed for the cat.. not for youself.
One of her kitties (5 week old baby) was VERY sick, very dehydrated, and very underweight compared to the rest. and I thought it would die with out emergency attention so I took her to the hospital, and saved her. She had to spend the night with an IV, was fed regularly. And the vet ran a test on her as well for free to screen for FIV and other things. And she was negative, the vet has this very big boy cat that lives there who loves kittens, so when they knew she was healthy, they put her in with him and he cleaned her (soked her) and she even got a bit of love form a cat, and I think it really helped... so the vet told me that she was being neglected and needed to be hand fed regularly. Mom is not producing the milk, and is too stressed out to care for her kittens the right way. The other 4 are fine, they eat on their own, and when I put down food they eat like mad. But this one is not eating.
Now in all my life, I myself LOVE cats, and I think she is using this against me, manipulating me. I have bread kitties, but never more then one at a time. When she came here she had 3 moms the first one gave birth in her old place and it was too cold so 3 of them died, but the first 2 were ok, the second one went in to labour to early, had premature babies, and all of them died. One survived because the 3rd mom took it away from that mom and cared for it. But she died when she reached the age she would have been born. (3 weeks) and that mom had her babies, I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t know why she died... I was just told by my roommate that she died.. Either she was being fought over by the momâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s and hurt, or squished because the box wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t big enough for 2 moms and 6 babies... or just couldnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t get to the milk.. then the last batch with the mom that stole the other moms kitten, all kittens were healthy, until this 5 week old girl stopped eating. And mom has stopped being a good mom.
Now my roommate, She doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t spend enough time with her kitties downstairs. She is always upstairs... when I drop hints to go down and care for them she will for a few hours clean up. But when I go down there, they are all over me, wanting attention. And the kittens cry at the door to let them up. They donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want to be down there, so we let the kittens up, it stresses out my cats to no end. I have seen my baby get itchy and pull on her hair, but as soon as I see that, we give her loving attention and she feels better. She needs to know that she is number 1. Even when I see all kitties as the same. But some of the kittens, just love it upstairs, love the attention, and are all over us, some of us are anti social and never come up.
Now sorry this is getting so long.. its just that I have 3 kitties, and I feel bad because I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t brush them enough, or I hardly EVER clean their teeth, or give them a bath when they bum gets really dirty. I feel like I can barley handle 3, even with the cost of food, litter and vet bills. And all of my cats are fixed, and non of hers are. And all my cats have been tested, and only 2 of hers has.. but when I went downstairs today, (roommate is at her boyfriends) there was poop everywhere, stepped on the carpet and it was wet. (pee) It smells like the males are spraying... poop on the walls all around the litter box. And if it wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t for me helping with the kittens, they would all be anti social and the 5 week old would be dead. I know she would have been dead if I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help because I have seen all the other kittens die when I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help and let her deal, if they were my moms with kittens, the second there was a problem, the kittens would have been at the vet, and if they vet said so, they would be under my care, not the moms... but she said she knew what she was doing... and I watched everything happen with most of them, and I recognized the same things happening with this one, and that is why I stepped in and took her to the vet. I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t pretend I know everything... and I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t pretend there is no problem when there is.
She said the little kitten ate a little, but she wanted me to make sure she ate before bed. When I went down there she was dehydrated again. I tried to force feed her the liquid the vet gave me and she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want it. And I have been dehydrated. I know what itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s like... I had to drink 3 bottles of water even though I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t feel thirsty. After the 3rd bottle, I started to feel thirsty. So I drank more and was happy to do so... the second batch of kittens I was helping her feed, and she was like “donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t give them too much†so I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t and they died. And she said the same thing about this little kitten, but she isnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t there so I gave her lots... after the first bit I made her drink and she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want it, I was preparing the second batch and she was happy to drink it. So I think she got enough for tonight. But I have to keep on her, because I know my roommate is not going to. And she still doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want to eat out of the bowl.
Now I just donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t know what to do anymore. I have told her she canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t be in my house breeding, but she has done NOTHING to find homes for the kittens, the first batch is now 3 months old. So for a month we have had nothing in the way of homes... and she has done nothing to stop them from breeding... no males or females have been fixed, and when I talk to her about fixing one, she says “oh well I want to fined a home for her and they can do it†or “I canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t fix him, he is so typie†or “I have a breeder friend that will probably take him†but she hasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t called her friend. And its been 3 months. Now I can understand how hard it is to close a good line. And I want her to give the “Typie†ones to a breeder who can continue the lines for her. But she will not do anything.. only talk about what she is going to do. Trying to slip this by me like Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m going to allow her to breed when she canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t even find homes for the ones she has up for adoption as it is. I did manage to find a foster home for one of her kitties, but she doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want her anymore, and I need to find a home for this adult cat, and its REALLY hard to do. But my roommate does not have a job. And I have put adds out all over and she put out one.
I think she could find a home if she dedicated her time to this like she would any job. She has 40 hours a week she does nothing with herself, but clean cook and garden. These are things that people with full time jobs still find the time to do. And the grooming!!
I get lazy with my cats, and they can get dirty, but compared to her cats, its nothing...she just doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t dedicate anytime cleaning up or grooming her kitties, and Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m not going to do it for her, it like I am enabling her even now with all the things I have been doing. Its like Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m finding the homes for her, and Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m helping the kittens.
The number one reason this is bugging me, is because the smell is coming up stairs in to the house, and it is sick. She said she cleans the litter box every 2 days, and I hardly clean mine, I pooper scoop once a week, and it just doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t make that kind of smell. It doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t smell like pee or poo... it smells like spray. And she swears her cats donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t spray. She swears its the litter box. I can feel the value of my house already going down. When she moved from her home, the damage to her home was so bad, I had a friend who knows a friend that was involved in selling her house (small world) that told me that if her house wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t damaged by the cats it could have sold for double what it did. But this is my house now... and she is a friend... so I really donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t know what to do about this... she wonâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t listen... she is blind towards it. And when I do talk to her seriously, I always am left feeling really bad about it.
Some of you already know me, and you know I have 3 cats of my own, and my roommate downstairs is a small breeder. She only has 6 cats which is small in my head, because I have seen her home when she had 30 and it was really really bad, and she said she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want to do that again because she couldnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t handle it and I trusted her that she could handle 6 cats +kittens. But with that in my head, I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t really want her to move in. But she is a friend and she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t have a place, and she did manage to surrender many of her cats. And I let her move in with me, with the belief that she was going to stop breeding and fix her cats. Because I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want a breeder in my house, I have had nothing but bad experiences with bad breeders, to me its like if you say you breed, I automatically think you probably made a mess of it. But I had hoped that she could turn this around... I believed that she was strong, and could make the right choices. Maybe that should could show me that not all breeders are bad. And if she wanted to breed after she lived here, she is to find foster homes for the cats so they donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t breed while she is in my house. I still didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]tâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji] want her moving in breeding. You donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t breed while renting someoneâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s basement. This was the agreement. Because I have seen some really bad breeders in this city with 100 cats, and I have seen how she was, and I have seen the mess it makes, the smell, and how stressed it makes the poor kitties. I have seen them pull out their hair, and die of diseaseâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s.. and worse I have bought pure bread cats in the past only to have them die on me at the age of 5... I knew in my heart it wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t right. but in this city, its hard enough to find a place to rent that even allows you to have even ONE cat... these are things I have just learnt from. and I don't want in my house. Now if I were to buy purebread again, I not only would spend 500 bucks for them but also another 500 to check for everything to make sure they are healthy... and more to fix them so they don't breed. for myself, everything I have learnt, I know what is needed for the cat.. not for youself.
One of her kitties (5 week old baby) was VERY sick, very dehydrated, and very underweight compared to the rest. and I thought it would die with out emergency attention so I took her to the hospital, and saved her. She had to spend the night with an IV, was fed regularly. And the vet ran a test on her as well for free to screen for FIV and other things. And she was negative, the vet has this very big boy cat that lives there who loves kittens, so when they knew she was healthy, they put her in with him and he cleaned her (soked her) and she even got a bit of love form a cat, and I think it really helped... so the vet told me that she was being neglected and needed to be hand fed regularly. Mom is not producing the milk, and is too stressed out to care for her kittens the right way. The other 4 are fine, they eat on their own, and when I put down food they eat like mad. But this one is not eating.
Now in all my life, I myself LOVE cats, and I think she is using this against me, manipulating me. I have bread kitties, but never more then one at a time. When she came here she had 3 moms the first one gave birth in her old place and it was too cold so 3 of them died, but the first 2 were ok, the second one went in to labour to early, had premature babies, and all of them died. One survived because the 3rd mom took it away from that mom and cared for it. But she died when she reached the age she would have been born. (3 weeks) and that mom had her babies, I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t know why she died... I was just told by my roommate that she died.. Either she was being fought over by the momâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s and hurt, or squished because the box wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t big enough for 2 moms and 6 babies... or just couldnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t get to the milk.. then the last batch with the mom that stole the other moms kitten, all kittens were healthy, until this 5 week old girl stopped eating. And mom has stopped being a good mom.
Now my roommate, She doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t spend enough time with her kitties downstairs. She is always upstairs... when I drop hints to go down and care for them she will for a few hours clean up. But when I go down there, they are all over me, wanting attention. And the kittens cry at the door to let them up. They donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want to be down there, so we let the kittens up, it stresses out my cats to no end. I have seen my baby get itchy and pull on her hair, but as soon as I see that, we give her loving attention and she feels better. She needs to know that she is number 1. Even when I see all kitties as the same. But some of the kittens, just love it upstairs, love the attention, and are all over us, some of us are anti social and never come up.
Now sorry this is getting so long.. its just that I have 3 kitties, and I feel bad because I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t brush them enough, or I hardly EVER clean their teeth, or give them a bath when they bum gets really dirty. I feel like I can barley handle 3, even with the cost of food, litter and vet bills. And all of my cats are fixed, and non of hers are. And all my cats have been tested, and only 2 of hers has.. but when I went downstairs today, (roommate is at her boyfriends) there was poop everywhere, stepped on the carpet and it was wet. (pee) It smells like the males are spraying... poop on the walls all around the litter box. And if it wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t for me helping with the kittens, they would all be anti social and the 5 week old would be dead. I know she would have been dead if I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help because I have seen all the other kittens die when I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help and let her deal, if they were my moms with kittens, the second there was a problem, the kittens would have been at the vet, and if they vet said so, they would be under my care, not the moms... but she said she knew what she was doing... and I watched everything happen with most of them, and I recognized the same things happening with this one, and that is why I stepped in and took her to the vet. I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t pretend I know everything... and I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t pretend there is no problem when there is.
She said the little kitten ate a little, but she wanted me to make sure she ate before bed. When I went down there she was dehydrated again. I tried to force feed her the liquid the vet gave me and she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want it. And I have been dehydrated. I know what itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s like... I had to drink 3 bottles of water even though I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t feel thirsty. After the 3rd bottle, I started to feel thirsty. So I drank more and was happy to do so... the second batch of kittens I was helping her feed, and she was like “donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t give them too much†so I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t and they died. And she said the same thing about this little kitten, but she isnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t there so I gave her lots... after the first bit I made her drink and she didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want it, I was preparing the second batch and she was happy to drink it. So I think she got enough for tonight. But I have to keep on her, because I know my roommate is not going to. And she still doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want to eat out of the bowl.
Now I just donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t know what to do anymore. I have told her she canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t be in my house breeding, but she has done NOTHING to find homes for the kittens, the first batch is now 3 months old. So for a month we have had nothing in the way of homes... and she has done nothing to stop them from breeding... no males or females have been fixed, and when I talk to her about fixing one, she says “oh well I want to fined a home for her and they can do it†or “I canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t fix him, he is so typie†or “I have a breeder friend that will probably take him†but she hasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t called her friend. And its been 3 months. Now I can understand how hard it is to close a good line. And I want her to give the “Typie†ones to a breeder who can continue the lines for her. But she will not do anything.. only talk about what she is going to do. Trying to slip this by me like Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m going to allow her to breed when she canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t even find homes for the ones she has up for adoption as it is. I did manage to find a foster home for one of her kitties, but she doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t want her anymore, and I need to find a home for this adult cat, and its REALLY hard to do. But my roommate does not have a job. And I have put adds out all over and she put out one.
I think she could find a home if she dedicated her time to this like she would any job. She has 40 hours a week she does nothing with herself, but clean cook and garden. These are things that people with full time jobs still find the time to do. And the grooming!!
I get lazy with my cats, and they can get dirty, but compared to her cats, its nothing...she just doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t dedicate anytime cleaning up or grooming her kitties, and Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m not going to do it for her, it like I am enabling her even now with all the things I have been doing. Its like Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m finding the homes for her, and Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m helping the kittens.
The number one reason this is bugging me, is because the smell is coming up stairs in to the house, and it is sick. She said she cleans the litter box every 2 days, and I hardly clean mine, I pooper scoop once a week, and it just doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t make that kind of smell. It doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t smell like pee or poo... it smells like spray. And she swears her cats donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t spray. She swears its the litter box. I can feel the value of my house already going down. When she moved from her home, the damage to her home was so bad, I had a friend who knows a friend that was involved in selling her house (small world) that told me that if her house wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t damaged by the cats it could have sold for double what it did. But this is my house now... and she is a friend... so I really donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t know what to do about this... she wonâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t listen... she is blind towards it. And when I do talk to her seriously, I always am left feeling really bad about it.