My boys

[Catherine32]

All I know is my is a black cat. Any guess?

 

[verna davies]

I see him hiding. Lovely photo..

 

[Catherine32]

Opps there is a error. It should say Mom is a black cat.

 

[Catherine32]

Also I think dad is a local stay. Looks like my white one. His tabby pattern like mine runs down his back. His are just a little darker

 

[Catherine32]

Here is Mom . She now is a fat happy cat living with my friend. And her baby's when I 1st found them

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[StefanZ]

Its not immediately visible for all, but righty is a point; a blue lynx point and white.

Seeing the last picture gives it away, because its very apparent two of the kittens are points.

Lefty is a more common brown tabby (some would say black tabby).

Both are pretties. Momma must be proud of them!

Daddy had apparently white on him, was tabby, possibly lynx point. Could be grey tabby with white, in tuxedo pattern. Could be a lynx point with white.

Anyway, both parents carry the point gene, and both parents carry the diluting gene.

 

[Catherine32]

Its not immediately visible for all, but righty is a point; a blue lynx point and white.

Seeing the last picture gives it away, because its very apparent two of the kittens are points.

Lefty is a more common brown tabby (some would say black tabby).

Both are pretties. Momma must be proud of them!

Daddy had apparently white on him, was tabby, possibly lynx point. Could be grey tabby with white, in tuxedo pattern. Could be a lynx point with white.

Anyway, both parents carry the point gene, and both parents carry the diluting gene.

Bandit the right one is one of the kittens. This is him today

 

[Catherine32]

Smokey the tabby as you can tell from when they were kittens was like a odd ball. As you can see the other three are white. Smokey was also Bron with a bumb on his eye that has hair. This hair lays on top of his eye. He goes to see a specialist in June to have the bumb removed so it won't cause blindess as he ages

 

[StefanZ]

Tx for the extra info.
In this new photo I see Bandit has some pitch black splotches. Thus he is probably not diluted, he may be a seal (black) lynx point.

If three of the four kittens were points, the money bet is daddy was a point; lynx point with white.

But its not completely sure, the statistics allows he was only carrier, as momma is; the statistics arent ironclad in one litter. But statistics are pretty sure taking 1000 litters...

 

[Meowmee]

All I know is my is a black cat. Any guess?View attachment 419247

Beautiful boys they look like dsh: left brown mackerel tabby and seal lynx point mackerel with white they don’t look like mom who looks oriental.

 

[StefanZ]

they don’t look like mom who looks oriental.

If mommy looks oriental, and we KNOW she is a point carrier, chances are decent she has a real siamese Ancestor.
Siameses and Orientals are essentially sibling breeds with similiar looks. It goes both for modern types and for the old types.*

And a siamese mated with a non point will get non pointed childs, but whom are carriers.


ps. I know in USA there is such an animal as pointed Oriental. Not so in the european big association Fife. If an Oriental kitten is pointed in a litter, it gets registered as a siamese. And vice versa...
This is of course possible only because outcrosses between these two breeds are allowed. Not very common but allowed... But its the outcrosses whom helps they looks very similiar.


Ps. And thus we know also, daddy isnt no recent siamese mix. He is a domestic. IF he were a recent mix with siamese looks, the kittens would looks siameshish / orientalish, mommas and daddys siamese face genes doubled up.

 

[Meowmee]

If mommy looks oriental, and we KNOW she is a point carrier, chances are decent she has a real siamese Ancestor.
Siameses and Orientals are essentially sibling breeds with similiar looks. It goes both for modern types and for the old types.*

And a siamese mated with a non point will get non pointed childs, but whom are carriers.


ps. I know in USA there is such an animal as pointed Oriental. Not so in the european big association Fife. If an Oriental kitten is pointed in a litter, it gets registered as a siamese. And vice versa...
This is of course possible only because outcrosses between these two breeds are allowed. Not very common but allowed... But its the outcrosses whom helps they looks very similiar.

Very interesting, I think I read about that and about them registering as siamese too Yes, and there are some oriental types who are a bit chunkier or who have mixed heritage too. Black cats often have siamese heritage, so I have been told by a few, and I think they were bred with black shorthairs at some point.

 

[Catherine32]

So thier sister the one female out of the litter has patches of the markings. She even has some orange coloring. She has mostly white fur with patches of black, orange and the tabby pattern on her ears and body. All three of the white ones of blue eyes , my Smokey had green