L-Lysine questions please.....

[stephanietx]

Most likely the blood is from violent sneezing.  My girl has sneezed blood before and it's not pretty.  I don't know where you're located, but you might ask for idoxuride drops or for your vet to compound them for you.  Many people I know who have herpes kitties with eye problems use them when there's a flare up.  I also would be hesitant on the honey and also think Colloidal Silver is a better option.

 

[mphscat]

I think the vet may suspect something more substantial such as nasal lymphoma. My girl (16) was diagnosed in April after initially diagnosed with a stubborn cold. Once her eye started protruding ever do little, the vet realized there was much more to the story. Nasal lymphoma is HIGHLY treatable if caught early. My girl has jumped up on the desk to help me type this. BEST MONEY SPENT EVER on chemo for her.

 

[mrsty]

I know surgery for your cat is always scary, for the hope that it works and the cost.... but if the specialist says it's necessary, especially if you do go for a second opinion.....make sure the vet accepts Care Credit then you can apply on-line use it to pay it off the debit. It allows for 6 months, interest free. You can use it for your own medical costs that aren't covered by insurance, like maybe dental. But the facility has to accept it, it's not just like any other credit card so check first. All the test results you've already paid for don't have to be run again by another vet, just bring them for them to look over. Good luck and hope your kitty gets through this.

 

[angels mommy]

I know surgery for your cat is always scary, for the hope that it works and the cost.... but if the specialist says it's necessary, especially if you do go for a second opinion.....make sure the vet accepts Care Credit then you can apply on-line use it to pay it off the debit. It allows for 6 months, interest free. You can use it for your own medical costs that aren't covered by insurance, like maybe dental. But the facility has to accept it, it's not just like any other credit card so check first. All the test results you've already paid for don't have to be run again by another vet, just bring them for them to look over. Good luck and hope your kitty gets through this.

Great advice! [emoji]128077[/emoji]

 

[valkyri]

slightly offtopic but i found an article about honey and its antimicrobial/antibacterial properties,whch may help to explain why the addition of honey was made to the compress by Best Gift Ever...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3609166/

sorry about the lowercase but there is a kitten sleeping on my other arm. really hard to type...

 

[mrsty]

Yes, honey is a great natural thing...but I wouldn't put it on my cat. Colloidal silver is something to think about, but again you should know what the correct dosage is...I know sometimes vets are frustrating to deal with but you need to pin them down and question them about things. Be direct and ask them what they are thinking is wrong, what they expect the medicine to do and how long it should take to see improvement. Call them back if you see no improvement in the timeframe they give you. If they seem like they don't want to take the time to talk to you and explain their plan for treatment, then find another vet. You're paying them for their expertise as doctors and they need to take the time to answer your questions fully.

 

[ashade1]

I just took in 6 foster kittens about three of them had weepy eyes- just a clear discharge, and a few of them are sneezy- it is  hard for me to tell who because they all are shy/feral and hiding, but I can hear the sneezing. I took them to the vet and the vet said that since the discharge is clear and their airways sound good we are just going to try lysine as it is probably just viral. She put in the chart that I can come back and pick up antibiotics if I think that a bacterial infection arises and the discharge becomes colored, and if they become congested. They have refused to eat my lysine treats that I had, I tried crumbing them and adding to wet food and they eat around it lol. So I just ordered a lysine gel, and powder off of chewy.com because I figure I should be able to get them to eat it one way or the other!

 

[angels mommy]

I just took in 6 foster kittens about three of them had weepy eyes- just a clear discharge, and a few of them are sneezy- it is  hard for me to tell who because they all are shy/feral and hiding, but I can hear the sneezing. I took them to the vet and the vet said that since the discharge is clear and their airways sound good we are just going to try lysine as it is probably just viral. She put in the chart that I can come back and pick up antibiotics if I think that a bacterial infection arises and the discharge becomes colored, and if they become congested. They have refused to eat my lysine treats that I had, I tried crumbing them and adding to wet food and they eat around it lol. So I just ordered a lysine gel, and powder off of chewy.com because I figure I should be able to get them to eat it one way or the other!

Wow, 6 fosters! Bless you. I wish I could do that
I just don't have the space or funds. I can barely afford Sammy, & that's why I wasn't quite ready for another kitty, but as it goes, I didn't have much say in the matter. :lol3:
Don't forget you can double the dose since they have something going on, & that should take care of it pretty quickly, then when better, just stay on the regular daily dose for maintnance.
Good luck! [emoji]128522[/emoji]
I'd love to see some pictures!

 

[valkyri]

Both Viralys and Enisyl-F come in a clear amber gel. It is much easier to feed them the gel than the hard stuff. I never tried to use the powder. I put a bit on the wrong end of a spoon and run it over their tongues, in the case of Viralys. The Enisyl-F uses a dosed syringe and works great to just squirt it into their mouths.

Good luck with your new babies! Hugs to all. -Valeri

 

[ashpelletier]

Since this started as an L-Lysine post and that's what I'm here for, HELP! I work at an animal shelter and adopted my cat from there about 3 months ago. We've had an upper respiratory going around through our cats since the summertime due to lots of cats in one building. When I adopted her, she was fine but started showing symptoms a few days after she came home. We did a round of Clavamox for a week which seemed to help a bit but it never seemed to fully go away. About a month ago I was getting concerned and was given a round of Doxycycline for her for 9 days, which helped a bit more but she was still sneezy. Not a junky congested sneeze but still pretty sneezy none the less. I consulted with my vet and she said that it's normal, ones the herpes virus is in them it's there for life. She suggested a lysine supplement which we already use at work for our FelV+ cats with their low immune system so I was familiar with it and know it's benefits. My cat used to be on strictly wet food (she has no teef!) but the vet also said she'd be fine in dry food. She now refuses to touch her wet food with the gel lysine supplement in it and I know it's not because she doesn't like wet food because it's all she ever used to eat. She's VERY picky, and can tell when ANYTHING is added to her food, I don't want to push it too far and have her having food aversions because things keep getting added to her food. I bought her treats recently which she just turned her little nose up at and walked away, and I'm afraid she'll do the same if I buy her lysine treats. I just want my little Sammy to be healthy and symptom free and would feel awful wrestling and syringing the gel into her mouth everyday (which she spits out anyway) and I don't want this to be a major torture thing for her every day. Any suggestions are appreciated!

 

[ashade1]

Wow, 6 fosters! Bless you. I wish I could do that
I just don't have the space or funds. I can barely afford Sammy, & that's why I wasn't quite ready for another kitty, but as it goes, I didn't have much say in the matter.

Don't forget you can double the dose since they have something going on, & that should take care of it pretty quickly, then when better, just stay on the regular daily dose for maintnance.

Good luck! [emoji]128522[/emoji]
I'd love to see some pictures!

 
Both Viralys and Enisyl-F come in a clear amber gel. It is much easier to feed them the gel than the hard stuff. I never tried to use the powder. I put a bit on the wrong end of a spoon and run it over their tongues, in the case of Viralys. The Enisyl-F uses a dosed syringe and works great to just squirt it into their mouths.

Good luck with your new babies! Hugs to all. -Valeri

You can see pictures on my other thread http://www.thecatsite.com/t/326136/rescue-momma-and-kittens-advice-needed-please/180#post_4129631 I actually have two litters of kittens right now! Only one of them has the sneezy, watery eye issues. They are being kept on opposite ends of the house too so we won't be spreading it to the other kittens!

 

[angels mommy]

Since this started as an L-Lysine post and that's what I'm here for, HELP! I work at an animal shelter and adopted my cat from there about 3 months ago. We've had an upper respiratory going around through our cats since the summertime due to lots of cats in one building. When I adopted her, she was fine but started showing symptoms a few days after she came home. We did a round of Clavamox for a week which seemed to help a bit but it never seemed to fully go away. About a month ago I was getting concerned and was given a round of Doxycycline for her for 9 days, which helped a bit more but she was still sneezy. Not a junky congested sneeze but still pretty sneezy none the less. I consulted with my vet and she said that it's normal, ones the herpes virus is in them it's there for life. She suggested a lysine supplement which we already use at work for our FelV+ cats with their low immune system so I was familiar with it and know it's benefits. My cat used to be on strictly wet food (she has no teef!) but the vet also said she'd be fine in dry food. She now refuses to touch her wet food with the gel lysine supplement in it and I know it's not because she doesn't like wet food because it's all she ever used to eat. She's VERY picky, and can tell when ANYTHING is added to her food, I don't want to push it too far and have her having food aversions because things keep getting added to her food. I bought her treats recently which she just turned her little nose up at and walked away, and I'm afraid she'll do the same if I buy her lysine treats. I just want my little Sammy to be healthy and symptom free and would feel awful wrestling and syringing the gel into her mouth everyday (which she spits out anyway) and I don't want this to be a major torture thing for her every day. Any suggestions are appreciated!

Hi, I always gave my Angel, powdered lysine from capsules I bought on amazon. For humans, same thing. The best deal always seemed to be the "now" brand which is also a good one. I just mixed it in his wet food, & he didn't taste it, or have any problems eating it. Its supposedly doesn't have a taste.
Now that your girl is only eating dry, it will be a little harder. Maybe you can try a spoonful of baby food to mix it in? Most kitties will eat that. Otherwise, yes, mixing it w/ a little water & syringing it in the side of her mouth might be your only choice.
I have a (new) Sammy too. Mine is a little boy though. I'm guessing your is a Samantha, & mine is a Samuel.

 

[ginny]

Hi all.  I recall reading this and wanted to alert everyone. This is from last year so I don't have any update or follow-up on it.  This is very infuriating!  

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/...-targets-supplements-at-major-retailers/?_r=0

 

[catspaw66]

 
Hi all.  I recall reading this and wanted to alert everyone. This is from last year so I don't have any update or follow-up on it.  This is very infuriating!  

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/...-targets-supplements-at-major-retailers/?_r=0

Yes, I can see it would be infuriating. However, L-lysine would not be included, since it is not an herbal supplement.

 

[ginny]

It's not hard to see that if there is fraud going on in the herbal supplement industry, then there can be fraudulent activity amongst the entire supplement industry.  Here is the problem:

"The F.D.A. requires that companies verify that every supplement they manufacture is safe and accurately labeled. But the system essentially operates on the honor code.

Under a 1994 federal law, supplements are exempt from the F.D.A.’s strict approval process for prescription drugs, which requires reviews of a product’s safety and effectiveness before it goes to market."

The honor code?  Seriously?  Caveat emptor.

 

[louisevn]

If anyone have a problem with cats that will not eat because of snotty nose, you can use homeopathic nasal sprays. Just check that it is safe for kids under 2, which homeopathic sprays usually are, and spray it inside their mouth as needed 2 or 3 times a day. I prefer the sinus & hay fever combination. Also a good idea to find a homeopathic vet and get your cats on immune boosting drops. Getting their natural immunity up should be the first line of defense when it comes to virus infections or carrier status. I have 5 rescues so we do not like them all to be sick! And Lysine remains my first go-to treatment, I do the other things as back up, as it is so important in cats to make sure they keep eating so as to prevent them getting fatty liver.

 

[white shadow]

 
If anyone have a problem with cats that will not eat because of snotty nose, you can use homeopathic nasal sprays.......................

Also...a good idea to find a homeopathic vet

It's CRITICAL to bear in mind that "homeopathic" doesn't necessarily mean SAFE.......

I'd also suggest that a holistic approach might be better-reasoned choice.

 

[louisevn]

Yes I agree - that is why I stipulated that it must be safe for humans under 2 years.As human kids under 2 years lack the same enzymes cats lack, medications which are safe for them, is safe for cats.And it is always safer to check and double check. Anyways, a very helpful tip if you ever nearly lost a cat who refused to eat because of congestion.

 

[angels mommy]

 
Yes I agree - that is why I stipulated that it must be safe for humans under 2 years.As human kids under 2 years lack the same enzymes cats lack, medications which are safe for them, is safe for cats.And it is always safer to check and double check. Anyways, a very helpful tip if you ever nearly lost a cat who refused to eat because of congestion.

Yes, welcome to TCS!  Good suggestion, & input. It's always great to learn new things, & we seem to always be doing that here. Just one of the many things that make this site wonderful. 

 

[ginny]

Found this article to further clarify the warning above.  It also includes some helpful information too!

Q. How do I know if the supplement that I purchased contains the ingredients that it claims on the label or if it is contaminated?

A.  You should be aware that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not analyze the content of dietary supplements. However, FDA has issued Good Manufacturing Practices (GMPs) for dietary supplements, a set of requirements and expectations by which dietary supplements must be manufactured, prepared, and stored to ensure quality. Manufacturers are expected to guarantee the identity, purity, strength, and composition of their dietary supplements. For example, the GMPs aim to prevent the inclusion of the wrong ingredients, the addition of too much or too little of a dietary ingredient, the possibility of contamination (by pesticides, heavy metals such as lead, bacteria, etc.), and the improper packaging and labeling of a product.

Some manufacturers use the term "standardized" to describe efforts to make their products consistent. However, U.S. law does not define standardization. Therefore, the use of this term (or similar terms such as "verified" or "certified") does not guarantee product quality or consistency.

If you have questions about a specific brand of dietary supplements, you can contact the manufacturer for more information. Ask to speak to someone who can address your questions, some of which may include:

1. What information does the firm have to substantiate the claims made for the product? Be aware that sometimes firms supply so-called "proof" of their claims by citing undocumented reports from satisfied consumers, or graphs and charts that could be mistaken for well conducted scientific research.
2. Does the firm have information to share about tests it has conducted on the safety or efficacy of the ingredients in the product?
3. Does the firm follow good manufacturing practices and have a quality control system in place to determine if the product actually contains what is stated on the label and is free of contaminants?
4. Has the firm received any adverse events reports from consumers using their products?

In addition, there are a few independent organizations that offer "seals of approval" that may be displayed on certain dietary supplement products. These indicate that the product has passed the organization's quality tests for things such as potency and contaminants. These "seals of approval" do not mean that the product is safe or effective; they provide assurance that the product was properly manufactured, that it contains the ingredients listed on the label and that it does not contain harmful levels of contaminants.

The following is a list of several organizations offering these programs:

• Consumerlab.com approved quality product seal
• NSF International dietary supplement certification
• U.S. Pharmacopeia dietary supplement verification program
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