Is My Cat a Turkish Van

[pumpkinringo]

Hi, I can't figure out how to post my own thread on here as I am new so I figured I would piggy back off this one. My kitten is named Pumpkin and I saved his life at the tense age of 3 weeks old! Needless to say he is suuuper sweet and attached, and I'm pretty convinced he is a Turkish Van. I read up on them and he matches all the criteria through and through, even down the personality traits and his huge ears he hasn't grown into yet! does anyone else agree he's a Turkish van? I can see he only has one coat and it's water resistant a bit which I discovered by bathing him, and it feels like cashmere. He only has a colored 'cap' and tail with chalk white fur. He's now only about 3 months old. Here are some pics

 

[pumpkinringo]

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• pumpkinringo
• Aug 12, 2015

Here is another pic

 

[pumpkinringo]

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• pumpkinringo
• Aug 12, 2015

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• pumpkinringo
• Aug 12, 2015

Look at those ears! He has stretched out so he is currently long and slinky but hasn't grown into his ears yet haha. He appears bowl-legged in the shoulder so does that translate to broad shoulders in the works? I'm 100% sure I have a Turkish Van!!

 

[pumpkinringo]

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• pumpkinringo
• Aug 12, 2015

Here is a photo I stealthily snapped whilst he slept; you can really see his color cap and tail here. He doesn't have color anywhere else on his body! [emoji]10084[/emoji]️ What do y'all think, Turkish Van?

 

[StefanZ]

Here is a photo I stealthily snapped whilst he slept; you can really see his color cap and tail here. He doesn't have color anywhere else on his body! [emoji]10084[/emoji]️ What do y'all think, Turkish Van?

 I think he is sooner Orientale look alike, with Van pattern!

 

[pumpkinringo]

 I think he is sooner Orientale look alike, with Van pattern!

 

[pumpkinringo]

Sooner orientale? I've never heard of this I must research!

 

[pumpkinringo]

Do you

 I think he is sooner Orientale look alike, with Van pattern!

Do you mean the oriental short-hair that is close in resemblance to the Siamese?..or which one exactly

 

[StefanZ]

Sooner orientale? I've never heard of this I must research!

Yes, look up the Oriental / Orientale breed, they arent not far from siameses.

Although dont look at the most extreme modern show exemplares, but more at them 20 years back...

 

[pumpkinringo]

Do you
Do you mean the oriental short-hair that is close in resemblance to the Siamese?..or which one exactly

Mind you he is still a baby so right now his fur it short, as I understand they grow into their fur as they mature. Right?

 

[StefanZ]

Do you
Do you mean the oriental short-hair that is close in resemblance to the Siamese?..or which one exactly

yes 

 

[StefanZ]

Mind you he is still a baby so right now his fur it short, as I understand they grow into their fur as they mature. Right?

It can differ.  But its true, its difficult to deem the adult cat by what he is as kitten.

Its easier with purebreds, where you KNOW what the looks will be, at least, roughly know.

But those who are out after show examples, or good breeding types, they often prefer to buy a little older kitten, exaclty because of this; so they are more sure.

 

[pumpkinringo]

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 I think he is sooner Orientale look alike, with Van pattern!
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I found his Doppelgänger when I researched photos of very young Turkish Van kittens for comparison. Like my pumpkin this kitten has the brown tabby colour cap and tail View media item 291433

 

[pumpkinringo]

Yes, look up the Oriental / Orientale breed, they arent not far from siameses.

Although dont look at the most extreme modern show exemplares, but more at them 20 years back...

I have a lynx point Siamese .. Pumpkin doesn't have similar facial bone structure to Siamese kitties at all... Guess time will tell as he gets older and photos make it a bit difficult but my gut says Turkish Van with brown tabby cap & ringed tail. His fur is indeed cashmere like and water resistant; I can see that he only has one coat unlike other breeds.

 

[peterbald love]

Nope definatley not a Oriental Shorthair.

This is an oriental 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[pumpkinringo]

Nope definatley not a Oriental Shorthair.

This is an oriental cat.

Ah well either way I am curious to see how he develops and he's precious either way
I can't get over his huge ears _._ so cute