Ibd/royal Canin

[leo12]

Our cat has chronic diarrhea, where do you get the Royal Canine high fiber food from?

 

[Neo_23]

Something else you can try is just using any wet food your cat likes and mixing in a little plain canned pumpkin with it.

 

[leo12]

I bought some pumpkin, the first day he loved it, and I was so happy. Little brat won't even look at it now. The first day I put probiotics on his food, he wouldn't touch it. I then mixed it with broth, and he loved it. Once again, the brat won't even touch it now, I was squirting it in his mouth and now ran out of capsules. I don't think I'll get more since they did no good either.

 

[Columbine]

If your boy has diarroeah, he needs to see a vet. It's likely that there's some underlying cause (all kinds of things can trigger diarroeah), and you need to treat the cause, not just the symptom.

The Fibre Response food is a veterinary prescription diet, and isn't available from regular retailers. As with any prescription diet, it should never be used unless recommended by your vet

 

[leo12]

He has been seen by a vet four times in several months. Diagnosed as either IBD or lymphoma. The vet only prescribed Hills special digestive food which he won’t eat in canned or dry. She has no other food suggestions so I am looking for something high fiber for him

 

[Neo_23]

I would just try a different higher quality canned food that you haven’t tried before and add in some probiotics. Cats don’t really need fiber the same way humans do and the huge poops they are having are likely due to all the fiber in the dry food that they don’t need.

I highly recommend Rawz wet cat food. It solved my kitten’s digestion issues. It also has fenugreek seeds in it that are a source of soluble fiber... so if you’re worried about the fiber thing it works too.

 

[Columbine]

As he won't eat the Hills vet diet, it might well be worth trying the Royal Canin versions. I believe the options are Gastrointestinal Fibre Response (dry only), Gastrointestinal (wet or dry), Gastrointestinal Moderate Calorie (wet - a lower cal version of the Gastrointestinal, which is a very calorie dense food) or the Feline Selected Protein range (wet and dry). I don't know which of these would best fit your cat's needs, but your vet will be able to advise you. Yes, most vets are affiliated with Hills or Royal Canin, but if your cat won't eat one brand, you're more than within your rights to ask for the equivalent product in the other brand

Some people with IBD/lymphoma cats have had success feeding a LID diet, so that's another option to explore. I know @artiemom has been through pretty much every option out there with her IBD kitty, so she'll have more info on brands etc.

 

[Neo_23]

Also, have you looked into the probiotic s. Boulardii? It’s supposed to help tremendously with cat IBD. But it’s not available in most cat probiotic supplements. You can purchase a human probiotic that has it in it like Jarrow.

IBD cats also benefit a lot from raw feeding.

Check out this website for more info: S boulardii - Review of the Science

 

[leo12]

Neo_23, where can you buy the Rawz, I checked out Chewy and PetSmart and couldn't find it? Is the S boulardii better than the probiotic prescribed by the vet? Leo has been on that for well over a month, I have to mix it and squirt it down his mouth, and I haven't seen where its helping. Amazon was out, but I will try at our local Walmart.

Columbine, the Royal Canine you listed are all through the vet? I did see Royal Canine Feline Indoor Intense Hairball 34 in PetSmart, but I'm guessing that's probably not as good as the ones you listed?

 

[Neo_23]

Neo_23, where can you buy the Rawz, I checked out Chewy and PetSmart and couldn't find it? Is the S boulardii better than the probiotic prescribed by the vet? Leo has been on that for well over a month, I have to mix it and squirt it down his mouth, and I haven't seen where its helping. Amazon was out, but I will try at our local Walmart.

Columbine, the Royal Canine you listed are all through the vet? I did see Royal Canine Feline Indoor Intense Hairball 34 in PetSmart, but I'm guessing that's probably not as good as the ones you listed?

You'll have to contact your local independent pet stores for Rawz. They don't sell online or at big chain stores. Check out their store locator on their website and call around to independent pet shops around you. Even if they don't carry it in stock they might be able to order it. I always get my local pet store to order cases for me. RAWZ

Check out the link I gave in my previous post for information on s. boulardii. It won't be in any pet probiotics (I think the only pet probiotic that has it is Dr. Mercola). Most pet owners just buy the Jarrow human brand. The link I gave you also gives you guidelines on how much to give your cat (at the bottom of the page).

I also really think that you should at least consider a raw diet for your cat. I know many people who resolved their cat's IBD symptoms on raw food.

 

[Neo_23]

Sorry I think I gave you the wrong link in my previous post, here's the right one!: Probiotics for Cats - Why and Which Ones

This website also has lots of great info about the benefits of raw food for IBD.

 

[Columbine]

Neo_23, where can you buy the Rawz, I checked out Chewy and PetSmart and couldn't find it? Is the S boulardii better than the probiotic prescribed by the vet? Leo has been on that for well over a month, I have to mix it and squirt it down his mouth, and I haven't seen where its helping. Amazon was out, but I will try at our local Walmart.

Columbine, the Royal Canine you listed are all through the vet? I did see Royal Canine Feline Indoor Intense Hairball 34 in PetSmart, but I'm guessing that's probably not as good as the ones you listed?

The foods I listed are all Royal Canin Veterinary diets. They're mostly available through vets, but some specialist online pet stores stock them too. I do stress, though, that you need to talk to your vet about with one is right for your boy.

As far as raw goes, I know some people have had success with IBS kitties on raw diets, but it doesn' work for everyone. You also need to have a VERY clear knowledge of exactly what proteins/ingredients your cat can tolerate (ie that don't cause symptom flares), and which are triggers. I honestly feel that either veterinary prescriptions foods or commercial LID diets are a better option at this stage.

I would also be VERY wary of trying ANY supplement or probiotic without first speaking to your vet. IBD is notiriously hard to manage, and you and your vet need to be on the same page.
Inflammatory Bowel Disease In Cats
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[Neo_23]

The problem with talking to your vet though is that if they have no nutrition knowledge or aren’t open to alternative methods they will just give you a prescription diet and send you on your way and will likely tell you that raw food will kill your cat. I have found that many vets really don’t understand nutrition or IBD. Do your own research as well and be informed. Get an opinion from an integrative vet if there is one close to you.