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Hi. i found this place looking for help and at a lost for my poor Mollison..

I have this whole story i can type of about what has happened since day one but most important is where she is at now...
I've taken her to the same vet 3-4 times now for exams and tests and rechecks after another. Where this starts is day one I noticed our 3 year old girl wasn't eating and drinking.. she slept in the same spot all day with little energy. I gave her chicken or wet foods, but she only ate the wet parts. This prompted several vet visits.. day after day she is still in same condition, not improving but not declining. The vet tells me to bring her back for rechecks for additional exams etc. Her fever stayed consistent at 103-104 for maybe 4-5 days in a row. After the 3rd visit, they prompted to hospitize her for the day, took bloodwork and xrays and they also gave her a catheter for fluids and antibiotics. Her Respiratory Rate was avg 40 on her chart and her heart beat was 210-220 for each of the 4 visits.

The part is most concerning part to me is the 4th visit, the Dr. advised to keep the catheter in her arm overnight, bring her home and then to bring her back the next day for more fluids to reduce the fever. When I brought her home, I picked her up and noticed this saggy sack of fluids in her chest/upper arm. I let her be for the night and the next morning she wasn't warm to the touch like she was previously with the fever but the sack had hardened. I immediately took her back to the vet, I told them my concern and they called me back later that day saying they did an ultrasound, took a sample of the growth and did a biopsy? or whatever. She looked at the sample in a microscope, said she couldn't find anything she can diagnose so they sent it to a specialist lab. The next day I got the results and it was a bunch of medical jargon saying it could be this or that and to get more tests done.. they used the word spindle cell tumor but then said they can not determine if its benign or malignant. They gave her Cerenia although I told them she is not using the litter and sent me home with some to give her the next few days. I think back of every chance they had to charge me for this or another, but this instance, they did the ultrasound and test on the sample themselves and said they arent going to charge me. I took it as a charity or being generous to not charge that they saw that it was a time sensitive matter, but thinking about it now, I wonder if they did it because I questioned that it came up because of negligence from the catheter.. ?

Okay, ive rambled on, trying to get to the point where we are at today... A few days have gone by and her arm is swelling .. which eventually went down to her paw. The growth seemed to have grown slightly as well, which is pretty significant in size for her small body, that is already scrawny from lack of nutrients and eating. She ate pieces of chicken once but still back to only liquids from anything we give her. But her arm is swollen, and with that, we took her back to the same vet, raised our concern, and the doctor said that its not because of the catheter, she said they didn't do anything wrong. She is now telling me that it is cancerous (although no new tests were done to tell her that) and that she needs to do another xray to see if it spread to her lungs. She literally said in front of me saying that if it spread to her lungs, that Mollison will not live through it otherwise if its not spread to her lungs, then we could look at options to amputate her arm which will be very expensive and cost over $5-6000 dollars after we do this and that and the other. So I broke down right then, I didn't expect to but she told me that I now have to spend more money (on another xray) to determine if she is going to die right away from the lung infection or if we can possibly save her life if its not in her lungs, and go the amputating route. Later that day with the results of the xrays I earlier approved, she tells me there are lymph nodes in her lungs and they can do more tests blah blah blah. I took my cat and ran from them. But on the diagnostic, she didnt advise to give her any medicine, pain meds or anything for her that day.

Here is my question, from allll this... Was the vet careless and negligent? That growth that they called a tumor was not there the day before we let them put the catheter in her. Well, if it was, it was not the slightest bit noticeable, even on her frail body. Her arm is swollen and I begin to wonder if this is edema from the IV. Also, her lack of eating, could this be do to lymph nodes in her throat? Her lack of eating doesn't seem to be do to lack of appetite, I look at her and she clearly shows difficulty in eating bites.. she sits up and is bright eyed when I put food in front of her, however it looks like she just cant because she kicks the pieces out of her mouth, as if she gags on it. She shows absolutely no signs of pain whatsoever. Either shes a tough kitty and is so gentle or she hides it like none other. She does not meow at all, she does not wimper. In fact, she only meowed and try to prevent me from putting her into the carrier taking her to the vet. She walks around a bit still when she has energy, especially after I give her a couple drops of cbd. She hasnt groomed herself really, but the CBD gave her the energy to clean her face using both arms, even the swollen one and she cleaned her chest. I can hold her swollen paw, feel her growth to see if its changing and she does not flinch at all, doesn't even bat an eye or put her eyes back when touching her arm or growth. I hate to think she is in pain because that hurts my heart, but if she is, then she hides it. If she isn't, then I am so confused.

She is 3 years old and has 2 sisters from that litter, as well as her mom and dad. One of the sisters is because the most caring for her and sleeping with her, oh so caring. I have an appt with an oncologist in a couple days, vet appts are hard to come by around here but almost wondering if an ER will be just as effective if they can determine the truth about what happened.. whether it was indeed her body getting infected with a tumor or the first vet hurt her.

Naturally I am looking at every possibility here to understand, thinking of anything that has been done or could be done without maliciously casting blame... I just want to help this poor baby and make sense of how it escalated literally overnight.. overnight from the day she started losing energy and overnight from the vets catheter visit that inflamed the growth and swollen arm.

Any advise, recommendation, insight, correction or prayers & positive thoughts are more than welcomed <3

For sweet Mollison.
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So sorry you and Mollison are going through this. I would lean more towards taking her to the ER. I think amputation is quite drastic and quite possibly unnecessary - she might not have cancer either. I lost two 7 year old cats due to a vet's misdiagnosis this year. Wishing you both good luck!
 
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So sorry you and Mollison are going through this. I would lean more towards taking her to the ER. I think amputation is quite drastic and quite possibly unnecessary - she might not have cancer either. I lost two 7 year old cats due to a vet's misdiagnosis this year. Wishing you both good luck!
I am so sorry you went through that, cant even imagine losing two babies. I wish you all the peace and love.

I received this from a specialist today.. I may not understand thoroughly, but reads to me that there may be healing for her, even holistically. I will find out this week after taking her to a different ER.
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I am so sorry you went through that, cant even imagine losing two babies. I wish you all the peace and love.
Thank you! It was a very dark time for me.

Hoping for the best possible outcome for Mollison. Sounds like you're on the right track.
 

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This might help?!
"The main cause of phlebitis is intravenous (IV) catheter use. Poor catheter quality or care may lead to bacterial colonization of a catheter, which can then infect the cat. Catheters are often used during surgery, or for the treatment of trauma victims."
Inflammation of the Superficial Veins in Cats | PetMD

Especially the last paragraph....

"Prevention
Because the main cause of phlebitis is poor quality catheters or improper catheter care, this is the primary area to target when thinking about prevention. Any IV catheter sites should be cleaned regularly with antimicrobials and treated with antimicrobial ointment, in order to avoid bacterial infection that may lead to phlebitis. Sterile dressings should be used, and catheters should be changed within 24 hours, especially if they were placed in an emergency situation. Longer catheters may reduce the incidence of phlebitis."

Edit: Just wanted to add that you might want to get her on proper antibiotics if this is the case.
 
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Aww, breaks my heart to read your story. I too have had awful experiences with vets and you can't always believe what they say. When my cat had her kittens I didn't have a vet for her yet because I never had a good one for my dogs. It was on a weekend and she would fall over meowing out in pain and then be fine. The only vet on call then near by was a place I had taken my dogs to and I knew they were awful but I wanted an x-ray done to see if she had a kitten stuck inside. I KNEW since she was a stray they would tell me Feline Luekemia. Sure enough that so called doctor kept asking about her past/health and I kept telling her I don't know. She is a stray so she said "It's more then likely Feline Luekemia which means she passed it down to the kittens and none of them will live". Let me tell you...I wanted to reach over the table and beat her face! I had already fell in love with all of them and my mommy bear came out. In the end...pinched nerve. Later I had one of the kittens tested for that before surgery (at another vet office) and she did not have it which means the others were fine too. My one cat was given medicine for a life time health problem that never should have been given to her because there was another way and in the end I had to put her down. Caused more bigger health problems and her body just couldn't handle anymore. Last year I took my cat to the vet because she was constipated and not really wanting to eat but x-ray said she was just really constipated. She was at least 18 years old or older. I got her because my neighbor moved out and left her behind so I never really knew just how old she was but guessed at that. I kept telling them she wasn't pooping still with the medicine like she should and she didn't really want to eat. 4 months later she wasn't acting right and I knew something was really wrong. Took her and the x-ray showed cancer and she had just 2-3 days left. I didn't believe them because she didn't act like she was on deaths door but they were right and 3 days later was the end. That same place misdiagnosed my other cat last month saying she just had arthritis when she was diabetic and if I had stayed (should have left years ago) she would have died. I always heard how veterinarian's were better then people doctors because they go to medical school longer and I have found out it isn't true. They are just like people doctors. Some know what they are doing and some don't. Some care and some don't. Some just want you to spend money after money. I'm having problems with my new vets office and one of my cats. There are 6 vets in the building and the only good one is the vet who owns the place and everyone wants him so getting in to see him is hard. At least a months wait but I will not deal with any of the others now after yesterday.
Like you I don't understand most of what they wrote but it says it could be an infection which would make her not wanting to eat. Don't give up yet. Keep up hope for her. Sometimes when you think it's at the end it really isn't. Just like people doctors I think vets want to scare you so much so you will spend the money and in the end put them through tests that they didn't have to go through. They know you care or else you would not be spending that amount of money and time. I'm hoping a good out come for your little fur baby.
 
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This might help?!
"The main cause of phlebitis is intravenous (IV) catheter use. Poor catheter quality or care may lead to bacterial colonization of a catheter, which can then infect the cat. Catheters are often used during surgery, or for the treatment of trauma victims."
Inflammation of the Superficial Veins in Cats | PetMD

Especially the last paragraph....

"Prevention
Because the main cause of phlebitis is poor quality catheters or improper catheter care, this is the primary area to target when thinking about prevention. Any IV catheter sites should be cleaned regularly with antimicrobials and treated with antimicrobial ointment, in order to avoid bacterial infection that may lead to phlebitis. Sterile dressings should be used, and catheters should be changed within 24 hours, especially if they were placed in an emergency situation. Longer catheters may reduce the incidence of phlebitis."

Edit: Just wanted to add that you might want to get her on proper antibiotics if this is the case.
Thank you. I'll bring this up to the next vet, i do think anti biotics and an anti-infammatory of some kind, maybe even medicine for her liver will help her.
 

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Thank you. I'll bring this up to the next vet, i do think anti biotics and an anti-infammatory of some kind, maybe even medicine for her liver will help her.
You're welcome. The symptoms seem to fit...
Symptoms and Types
The main symptom of phlebitis is a localized inflammation, which can be seen due to warmth, swelling, pain, hardened vessels, or a redness of the skin known as erythema. If at least two of the aforementioned signs are present, this can be taken as a sign of local inflammation. Drainage or fever may also be present, both being associated with such infections.

Also, the liver inflammation may be due to the infection....
Liver Inflammation in Cats - Symptoms, Causes, Diagnosis, Treatment, Recovery, Management, Cost

Hope you get some relief/answers soon!
 
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Update today... Her arm swelling is noticeably decreasing. We have been giving her a mushroom medicine for cats during the interim of vet/ER visits. Will still visit the ER again this week to have another bloodwork done due to her liver having some concern and hopefully get meds and positive feedback from the specialist if she needs surgery to remove the growth or not. Shes a strong powerful little creature :)

Will be back with an update in a few days, until then.. thank you again for positive energy and feedback that can guide us <3
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Aww, breaks my heart to read your story. I too have had awful experiences with vets and you can't always believe what they say. When my cat had her kittens I didn't have a vet for her yet because I never had a good one for my dogs. It was on a weekend and she would fall over meowing out in pain and then be fine. The only vet on call then near by was a place I had taken my dogs to and I knew they were awful but I wanted an x-ray done to see if she had a kitten stuck inside. I KNEW since she was a stray they would tell me Feline Luekemia. Sure enough that so called doctor kept asking about her past/health and I kept telling her I don't know. She is a stray so she said "It's more then likely Feline Luekemia which means she passed it down to the kittens and none of them will live". Let me tell you...I wanted to reach over the table and beat her face! I had already fell in love with all of them and my mommy bear came out. In the end...pinched nerve. Later I had one of the kittens tested for that before surgery (at another vet office) and she did not have it which means the others were fine too. My one cat was given medicine for a life time health problem that never should have been given to her because there was another way and in the end I had to put her down. Caused more bigger health problems and her body just couldn't handle anymore. Last year I took my cat to the vet because she was constipated and not really wanting to eat but x-ray said she was just really constipated. She was at least 18 years old or older. I got her because my neighbor moved out and left her behind so I never really knew just how old she was but guessed at that. I kept telling them she wasn't pooping still with the medicine like she should and she didn't really want to eat. 4 months later she wasn't acting right and I knew something was really wrong. Took her and the x-ray showed cancer and she had just 2-3 days left. I didn't believe them because she didn't act like she was on deaths door but they were right and 3 days later was the end. That same place misdiagnosed my other cat last month saying she just had arthritis when she was diabetic and if I had stayed (should have left years ago) she would have died. I always heard how veterinarian's were better then people doctors because they go to medical school longer and I have found out it isn't true. They are just like people doctors. Some know what they are doing and some don't. Some care and some don't. Some just want you to spend money after money. I'm having problems with my new vets office and one of my cats. There are 6 vets in the building and the only good one is the vet who owns the place and everyone wants him so getting in to see him is hard. At least a months wait but I will not deal with any of the others now after yesterday.
Like you I don't understand most of what they wrote but it says it could be an infection which would make her not wanting to eat. Don't give up yet. Keep up hope for her. Sometimes when you think it's at the end it really isn't. Just like people doctors I think vets want to scare you so much so you will spend the money and in the end put them through tests that they didn't have to go through. They know you care or else you would not be spending that amount of money and time. I'm hoping a good out come for your little fur baby.
Oh wow, you have been through so much as well. My heart hurts seeing these poor creatures hurt, as we are the ones to take care of them.. they rely on us. But I know we do our best and our intuition is far greater than what a vet has to say at first glance. Its shame some vets take advantage because they know the babies can speak our language to let us know whether they need what the vet says or not.. I wonder if there is some way to go after the ones that misdiagnose, that almost seems a bit of malpractice.

We got this, getting better news each day and confidence. Whatever happens, she feels the love in the home that she is taken care of.
 

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Welcome to The Cat Site although I am sorry that this really confusing problem with your baby is what brought you here. I read everything although I cannot pretend to have understood it all. I agree with you that the specialists report is clearer and he does give differentials for what this might be. He is holding out hope by mentioning granulomas and abscesses which would be an improvement over the spindle cell diagnosis....although those can often be dealt with. I find it very confusing as well that this mass appeared suddenly and in conjunction with the catheter. Certainly those can cause pain and swelling in humans as well as animals. The fact that it is subsiding also indicates that this might be from the catheter.

We cannot say for sure if the vet was careless or negligent; sometimes things go wrong even when they are done correctly. Possibly they did discount the treatment because they value you as a client or maybe they did feel that they were partly to blame. I have had vets provide services free of charge once in a while, or provide a discount, usually in the face of having already done a great deal for the animal in question, which you certainly had done at that point.

She is a beautiful little Highlander and looks so much better in the second pic than the first. I agree that you need to involve other vets who can help you to diagnose what is going on. Please let us know what happens.
 
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