Got this in an email, what do you guys think?

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This was sent to me by a friend one of those chain letter kinda things. It caught my interest and I'm curious what anyone else thinks about it to. I had not been born yet at the time these things were suppose to have happened; does anyone remember this?

Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
 

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I don't know how true this particular story is, but I remember when her exercise video took off, my dad was livid. He was a physicst so he didn't go to Viet Nam (he did work for the DoD in other ways), but he always felt strongly about that war. He called her Hanoi Jane and told me about her, and he wasn't given to just slamming people for no reason.

I am a pacifist, but I know it's a luxury. I can only afford to be a pacifist because other people have been willing to risk their lives to defend the lifestyle and values I enjoy. Honoring Ms Fonda when we treat our veterans as badly as we do, is a slap in the face to anyone who served during Viet Nam.

Whoever put out that list of "100 Women of the Century" sure showed some bad judgement.
 

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All I know is that my dad was in Vietnam and he detests Jane Fonda. When her work out videos came out and got big he was disgusted.
 

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That's part of the problem.

The story is rooted in fact, but the details have become exaggerated over time. Ms. Fonda did earn the name Hanoi Jane for a reason, but she doesn't talk about it and most of what we hear nowadays is, well, almost a myth. I'm sure she thought she was doing the right thing at the time, but she didn't gain any respect for it. I'm also sure she was a target because she was a public figure, and that other people who shared her views have been largely ignored because they weren't notable.

I think it would be far more appropriate to honor the nurses, female GI's, widows, and wives who stayed with troubled veteran husbands than Ms. Fonda. She was simply vocal in her political views, other women have contributed more to the welfare of our country, made greater sacrifices, or showed more personal strength facing their troubles. They just didn't get press coverage because their names aren't famous.
 
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This was the first time I had heard about the whole Jane Fonda issue at all so naturaly it got my attention. Thanks for the info. It's hard to believe this chain letter started 3 years ago and is still going.
 
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