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New to the site. I read stuff on here all the time but never signed up!

I have two cats, one I adopted about 7 years ago, and a 4 year old I found on the streets as a kitten. The 7 year old (the white one in my pic) has gotten kind of a genetic short stick. He has asthma, virtually no teeth despite yearly dental cleaning (most of them had to be extracted), and most recently, a hear murmur first detected about 2 years ago.

Oh, and in January we went to the emergency vet for a bout of uncontrolled vomiting that not even anti nausea medication could stop. $2500 in diagnostics and hospitalization later and another 500 I put on care credit and we had no answers. They wanted another $1000 to keep him another night, $700 for some kind of bowel biopsy, $800 to place a feeding tube. i was already out of money, so I took him home, syringe fed him Hill's Critical Care and gave sub q fluids my regular vet sold to me. I did this for 3 weeks and during that time he'd stopped vomiting and started eating again and was fine.

Today he seems healthy, fat but alert and plays, eats drinks and uses the litterbox.

We do regular screenings in early April, usually, blood tests and urine, as well as dentals because he has mad tooth issues, as part of his routine check up. During all the madness at the ER earlier in january, i had remembered she brought up hearing his heart murmur and I mentioned it to my regular vet. She'd heard one about two years ago but hasn't heard it on any recent exams, including this most recent one (at that time she wasn't worried about it), but we decided to do a cardiopet probnp test. It was about 60 dollars and he didn't have to have any teeth extracted this year which is normally a big expense.

It came back with a reading of 120 which is somewhat elevated, so they want to do more tests. We are going back on the 19th to test for thyroid disease and other things that can elevate the bnp other than heart disease. I believe it costs a few hundred dollars, but the definitive test for heart disease is an echocardiogram, which is 600 or 700 dollars or so.

It's a crap situation. I can always pull a few hundred bucks out of somewhere to help my cat, but I can't afford all these 500-800 diagnostics tests anymore. I wonder if anyone has any experience with the cardiopet bnp, or a cat with a lower bnp or early heart disease. My vet says she has never done treatment for asymptomatic cats, only ones already in heart failure. Are these pets lives significantly improved by catching heart disease as early as possible? Do they even medicate cats that aren't showing signs of disease? Is anyone in a situation like that? Have you declined an echocardiogram and how did the cat do?

Not even sure it's definitely heart disease, just stuff that's been on my mind. I've gone through a lot with this cat.
 

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Welcome to TCS! :wave3: Glad you finally decided to sign up and join the forum. Unfortunately I do not have any personal experience with heart disease in cats but wanted to reply to your post and bump it up. In case you haven't read this Article I thought I would suggest it: Heart Disease In Cats

I hope other members who have more experience with this health issue can offer you some support and assistance. My very best to your 7 year old white kitty and you. :kitty:
 
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Welcome to TCS! :wave3: Glad you finally decided to sign up and join the forum. Unfortunately I do not have any personal experience with heart disease in cats but wanted to reply to your post and bump it up. In case you haven't read this Article I thought I would suggest it: Heart Disease In Cats

I hope other members who have more experience with this health issue can offer you some support and assistance. My very best to your 7 year old white kitty and you. :kitty:
Thank you! I have read so much stuff online and the information is confusing. Some articles say early detection is key but a lot of others seem to state that the disease is treated retroactively, and some studies show that a lot of cats can live up to 3 years after diagnosis regardless if they receive meds or not.

I did some research on the pro bnp test and the manufacturer's site says that any reading below 270 suggest that clinically significant heart disease is unlikely but it may be developing. I am thinking if everything else is ruled out, we can repeat the bnp some time from now. I can save my guy a stressful trip to a specialist while I save money for down the road if those values go up. Some insight from people who have some experience with this would still be helpful.
 

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Hi Hugospal and welcome to the forum !

Besides general cat forums like this, there are also specialized online communities which focus on one particular feline disease/condition.........and, there's a very popular one for heart disease. It has been active for the last 18 years and has had almost 3000 members.

If it's experience with diagnostics that you're looking for, surely that's where you're most likely to find it.

You'll find those folks here: Support Group for Feline Hearts - Yahoo Group - Just click on the purple +Join Group button......but, first:

BEFORE you join, get yourself a new, separate Yahoo email account dedicated just to that group. They use email as their 'operating platform', and this will help you best manage the back-and-forth info flow.

I have to tell you, what you've done for this l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ big little guy blows me away. And, that nightmare ER tale.....just too much. He is so very fortunate to have found you!

And (just an aside), so you know........we not at all adverse to pics.....(for me especially, as from the tiny avatar picture, he resembles my little White Shadow!)

And....speaking of "he".........."he" cannot remain anonymous !
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Hi Hugospal and welcome to the forum !

Besides general cat forums like this, there are also specialized online communities which focus on one particular feline disease/condition.........and, there's a very popular one for heart disease. It has been active for the last 18 years and has had almost 3000 members.

If it's experience with diagnostics that you're looking for, surely that's where you're most likely to find it.

You'll find those folks here: Support Group for Feline Hearts - Yahoo Group - Just click on the purple +Join Group button......but, first:

BEFORE you join, get yourself a new, separate Yahoo email account dedicated just to that group. They use email as their 'operating platform', and this will help you best manage the back-and-forth info flow.

I have to tell you, what you've done for this l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ big little guy blows me away. And, that nightmare ER tale.....just too much. He is so very fortunate to have found you!

And (just an aside), so you know........we not at all adverse to pics.....(for me especially, as from the tiny avatar picture, he resembles my little White Shadow!)

And....speaking of "he".........."he" cannot remain anonymous !
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Thanks for the link! Yahoo groups seem really underused these days, i would never think to look there!

OH! My white kitty is Hugo, his brother the orange is Ferro. As for pics, I have some cute ones so strap in.
 

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Well, I decided to forego the other tests and just go straight to the echo since it's the definitive test. My vet said the other tests won't matter right now if we go for the cardiac workup at the specialist instead. I got a crushing estimate of up to $700 for this but we are saving $355 by not doing the other stuff.

I guess I'll cross my fingers and hope they don't find anything or they find something and it's treatable.
 

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Poor Hugo. Fingers crossed that he comes out well from all the tests, which at any rate leave his human poorer. He's a sweet faced feline form the photos, as is his adopted brother, Ferro.
 
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We had the echo done today and we have to wait for the imaging to be seen by the cardiologist, but the Doc that did the scan said she could see some turbulence but nothing looked life threatening. May not even need medication at this point, will know on Thursday.
 
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Results are in and Hugo has been diagnosed with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, but it is a very mild case. The doc says medication is not needed at this point, and to return for another echo in 12-18 months.

It's shocking news but I feel better knowing, and doc says many cats with milder heart disease can still live for many years. Now hopefully he can stay at home and be a normal cat for a while and not have to deal with all these stressful vet visits.
 
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