Yes, I do know this isn't the breeder section I am too new to post there. If this is removed I'll understand. My question is how long do you try a King before you decide he will not mate? I'm afraid my F7 boy is too stupid to get it done. But he is only 13 months old and has never mated before, should I wait a bit longer before fixing him? I'm new to breeding as well so I don't know what's normal or average yet. TYI!!