There's an identified case in Minneapolis now.
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Corona Virus Now Spreading
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Oh my god. I've just seen an article. I can't believe what I've just seen.I'm absolutely outraged hearing about people throwing their pets out the window in china...wow. Read an article with pets it's so sad. I read an article with pics...of cats.Even if my cats could and were infected that would just mean I'm getting it with them..hmph.
That's utterly heart breaking. Those poor poor babies. How could you do that to a defenceless animal that trusts you and loves you, no matter how scared you are? Unimaginable. How scared those poor babies must have been.
I am sitting on the sofa in tears.
I have monthly standing appointments at the hospital. It is in Chinatown. When I went in this week, the streets were pretty empty. The hospital was normally busy.
I saw 3 people, on the street, wearing masks; none in the hospital, itself.
They always have a lot of hand sanitizers out: adding a few more. I took advantage of them. I did not see any masks available. They are usually in dispensers. There was a sign, stating you had to ask for them. Keeping them for really sick people.
I was recently diagnosed with some food intolerances and GI stuff. I am going to have to have ongoing appointments at the hospital.
I have to have faith. I have to just trust the system.
I used to work in hospitals. On teaching hospitals. I know the infectious disease protocol.
I worked through the bird flu, SARS, the swine flu— did not catch them. I took the train into and out of Boston, daily. I was lucky. One woman in my department did catch the swine flu.
Right now, I am more concerned about my apartment building— senior housing— with their cleaning controls and the behavior of the tenants in here.
Also concerned about grocery stores church. I help them collect money. I cannot use my supply of hand sanitizer and gloves; due to the scarcity of them.
In short, I am more concerned about the general public, than I am about going into a hospital or doctors office.
I saw 3 people, on the street, wearing masks; none in the hospital, itself.
They always have a lot of hand sanitizers out: adding a few more. I took advantage of them. I did not see any masks available. They are usually in dispensers. There was a sign, stating you had to ask for them. Keeping them for really sick people.
I was recently diagnosed with some food intolerances and GI stuff. I am going to have to have ongoing appointments at the hospital.
I have to have faith. I have to just trust the system.
I used to work in hospitals. On teaching hospitals. I know the infectious disease protocol.
I worked through the bird flu, SARS, the swine flu— did not catch them. I took the train into and out of Boston, daily. I was lucky. One woman in my department did catch the swine flu.
Right now, I am more concerned about my apartment building— senior housing— with their cleaning controls and the behavior of the tenants in here.
Also concerned about grocery stores church. I help them collect money. I cannot use my supply of hand sanitizer and gloves; due to the scarcity of them.
In short, I am more concerned about the general public, than I am about going into a hospital or doctors office.
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There are always sick (and healthy) people in waiting rooms at the doctor's (or dentist's) office. I tend to think that the regular flu is much more common than this new virus. It's just as contagious. There have been waiting rooms at doctor's offices full of people with the regular flu for years.
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The paranoia hasn't really hit my city (in a province where there are no presumed or confirmed cases yet) as the food and toilet paper shelves are still well-stocked. The hand sanitizer shelves are a different story, though. Two stores are completely sold out.
I always have a stock of hand sanitizer at home, so I don't have to worry about that, at least. Besides, washing for 20 seconds with soap and water does a better job.
I always have a stock of hand sanitizer at home, so I don't have to worry about that, at least. Besides, washing for 20 seconds with soap and water does a better job.
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I'm due to stock up on toilet paper, litter, facial tissue and some other things...but I have always been a buy in bulk person...I just hope people don't think that I'm some "doomsday prepper", with the timing of the things I need to buy this weekend. Like you, we don't have any confirmed cases in my area, so I'll look like a tool.
I've never used hand sanitizer, I hate the stuff, so I'm good there! Soap and water for me. I've always been good at not touching my face as I work in healthcare and have just trained myself to not touch my face while working/in public, same with proper hand washing.
I went to the store this morning and it was still well stocked. I did notice a sign on the disinfectant wipes limiting how many people could buy and that shelf looked a little skimpy. I tend to stay stocked up and out ahead on things. It is a habit I picked up right after I divorced and had 3 small children. I did it so that when there were unexpected expenses I could get by with just buying milk.
There's 206 case in the UK now paper's are saying it won't peak until Easter. I went shopping yesterday and there was a bunch of people complaining that there was no antibacterial hand sanitizer everything else seemed fully stocked. I couldn't believe it never seen that before it's like people just aren't getting soap and water does the trick.
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It's like the zombie apocalypse, lol. Mr. PushPurr and I have been enjoying our morning walk today in a much quieter neighborhood -- all the non-sick and sick people alike seem to be self-quarantining. It's a beautiful spring day today, too!
I feel sorry for all the businesses and restaurants that have seen such a big decrease in customers.
And now WHO and Amazon and our local burger restaurant are doing a bit of social engineering into wanting to make this a cashless society. "Don't use cash! It has cooties! Use your credit or debit card!"
The "regular" flu has killed a lot more people. Where was the hysteria over cash's cooties during all these years of the regular flu? Maybe the social engineers think the "regular" flu is a lot less sensational of an excuse to promote cashless societies than covid-19.
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Has anyone read how long symptoms last if infected? (Talking about those who don't become "critical"). The average cold/flu is about 10 days. Is it the same for this?
Yep I agree and if anybody doesn't want to use cold hard cash I'll gladly spend it for them
From what I've read symptoms can last a few day's for mild cases. But if you get pneumonia because of it maybe a few weeks. It does sound a lot like the flu to me it's the complications it causes that are bad.
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Again, I'm not panicking about this but I do have "issues" (for lack of better word) to comments that "the flu has killed more people, so this is no big deal"...(or similar statements)
I get it, the flu HAS killed more people, but more people have also been infect with it. The mortality rate for the flu is something like 0.1%, where as the latest ESTIMATE for covid-19 is 3.4%. It may seem insignificant but it is quite a bit, especially if you consider that the spanish flu is estimated to have been between 2-3%. I get that health care is much better now than it was back then but, if you consider that our health care is better but we STILL have a mortality rate that is potentially higher than the spanish flu, this IS something we need to be careful of. Also considering that our society travels much more as well, the spread can be very significant...as we are already seeing.
Once this gets around and the final numbers are in, is going to be the only way we will know for sure how bad this is. But this IS a new virus with a lot of unknowns so although I don't think we should panic, I still don't like the comparisons to the flu - to justify that this is not potentially serious.....just my opinion.
How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
I get it, the flu HAS killed more people, but more people have also been infect with it. The mortality rate for the flu is something like 0.1%, where as the latest ESTIMATE for covid-19 is 3.4%. It may seem insignificant but it is quite a bit, especially if you consider that the spanish flu is estimated to have been between 2-3%. I get that health care is much better now than it was back then but, if you consider that our health care is better but we STILL have a mortality rate that is potentially higher than the spanish flu, this IS something we need to be careful of. Also considering that our society travels much more as well, the spread can be very significant...as we are already seeing.
Once this gets around and the final numbers are in, is going to be the only way we will know for sure how bad this is. But this IS a new virus with a lot of unknowns so although I don't think we should panic, I still don't like the comparisons to the flu - to justify that this is not potentially serious.....just my opinion.
How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?
I had to do shopping for my mom at Target this morning after the announced COVID-19 case in my county I thought it might be filled with crazed shoppers, but nope. There was a mountain of bottled water cases at the front of the store and several shelf ends stacked with toilet paper. I only saw one or two people that looked like they were prep shopping.
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That "ESTIMATE" for covid 19, I believe, is based on reported, symptomatic, more serious cases (including death), and with that as the baseline, will lend itself towards a higher mortality rate. The more you add in any reported milder cases with people getting over their milder case of covid-19, that death/ mortality rate will decrease. It's very early yet in all of this testing and in the reporting of actual covid-19 cases.
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Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted
List of authors.
- Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.,
- H. Clifford Lane, M.D.,
- and Robert R. Redfield, M.D.
excerpt:
" [...] If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2 [...] "
It's not so much that I think it's no big deal, but that I think people should take the flu more seriously! There's a previously healthy little boy who recently died of the flu in the next county and there are still people going "no, I don't get the flu shot; it's poison and the government trying to control our minds. (*In the same breath*) Eek, there's a COVID-19 case in Nebraska now, they'd better hurry with that vaccine!"
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To be fair a lot of people have good immunity to the flu. I know I do. It's been like a decade since I had it. I'm 33 now. But that's only because I got it regularly as a child. I have no immunity to the coronavirus and I'd rather not catch it because when I get the flu I feel like death! I also don't want any permanent damage to my lungs. It's true people aren't as vigilant about preventing the flu as they should be but I don't think that diminishes the significance of this new outbreak. It's new so it's scary to people.
South Korea has the best records right now due to widespread testing and last I looked they were at .65% death rate which is 6x deadlier than the flu.
Hand sanitizer should only be a back up when washing isn’t possible.
This was my local Targets toilet paper aisle this morning. Granted, they had a pallet at the end of the aisle that was half full too. But I've never seen it so low here.
No hand sanitizer, water section wasn't as bad as toilet paper, immunity supplements were gone and tylenol/ibuprofen was pretty scarce.
I am about equadistance from Orange County and LA County so we've had some cases out this way. The company I work for has branches in both counties with runners going between locations.
I had to pick up a supplement I take and I noticed too that the vitamin aisle was pretty bare. That surprised me but fortunately no one was snapping up my CoQ10. I didn’t really wander down too many aisles though but ours didn’t look nearly as bare as yours.
