And, I understand what your vet said, and also what the lady said about the powder. But you're asking for help, and we are offering advice. The kittens are not improving, so it can't hurt to try what we are suggesting. I don't know how much longer the kittens will last, quite honestly. So rather than being "stuck in an endless cycle" as you say, please take some of the measures we have suggested to save these kittens.