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Thank you, fionasmom, that sounds about right. i have owned more than 25 cats in my life, and this is the only one with a feline fetish. We just have to protect him from himself

My cat chokes on the hard rim, it is not a hairball issue nor does it include vomiting. Sounds like choking! Sometimes his littermates come running in response. i have to physically remove him or he continues.

I am SO glad I found this! We fostered a litter of kittens since they were one day old, hand raising them and kept them. One is gray. Maybe part Russian Blue? But he chokes himself on cardboard boxes, low garbage cans, sometimes his choking sounds horrific! We found he had black spots in one eye...