Anyone Here Ever Feed "rad Cat Raw Food" Brand?

saleri said:

I figure I might as well ask this. What exactly was radcat in terms of texture? Was it all chunks or minced meat from a grinder?

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It was pretty much as close as you can get to home made raw food. I’m so sad. It was the best quality cat food out there.

What do you guys think about starting an online fundraiser to provide Rat Cat with money to save their business? Is this a crazy idea?

I fed Rad Cat up until it disappeared from the stores due to the recall. Very sad to hear about this

The recall was not legit anyway. The inspector didn't even leave the tub in a cooler for several hours!!! I cannot believe they are shutting down. They were an awesome raw and low phosphorus option. I am really saddened. This with vital essentials supply being an issue these days. What will my diarrhea cat eat?? Raw is the only thing that worked for him and he gets sick of eating only Primal.

Azazel said:

What do you guys think about starting an online fundraiser to provide Rat Cat with money to save their business? Is this a crazy idea?

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No it's not!! Some cats just depend on this for their health. Like mine, and many more. I am gutted.

cat princesses said:

I dint believe they’re making it at all anymore. My pet store said they haven’t gotten a shipment in weeks. Are there any other good alternatives? They have told me that the vital brand has raw chubs which is a similar consistency.

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Based on the statement from Rad Cat, plus another Facebook post that starts with "Since we are officially shut down as a result of recalls..." I also don't think they're making it anymore. And it felt pretty clear to me that they won't be reopening unless/until an investor shows up. But who knows.

I don't seen any good alternatives. Our cats loved a couple packages of Oma's Pride Purr but I was actually glad when they decided they didn't like it: it turns out to have 21% bone content. (I'd been concerned about that but never asked until the cats didn't like one batch. I'd never fed a lot of Purr but now it's gone even as an occasional snack.)

lisahe said:

Our cats loved a couple packages of Oma's Pride Purr but I was actually glad when they decided they didn't like it: it turns out to have 21% bone content.

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Did Oma's tell you it was 21% bone?? Man that's high!

mschauer said:

Did Oma's tell you it was 21% bone?? Man that's high!

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Yes, that's their figure; she worded it as "bone content." I'd always suspected it was high but didn't think it would (even could be!) that high! The batch that the cats didn't like as much had a slightly different texture from previous ones; it was somehow firmer. There were no recipe changes and adding water didn't soften it to be more like the packs they liked. I even wondered if it might have more bone than usual.

lisahe said:

Yes, that's their figure; she worded it as "bone content."

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Wow! What are they thinking?????

mschauer said:

Wow! What are they thinking?????

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I can't say for sure but, sadly, I have to think that chicken necks must be cheap! (Here are the ingredients.) Our cats really used to love this food but I'm glad I was always suspicious about the bone so never fed much of it.

Oh yeah, chicken necks are most definitely cheap. I've seen other products that list chicken necks as the first ingredient. I would never consider feeding one of those.

It's good to remember that it isn't only the commercial processed food makers that are guilty of putting profit before the welfare of our pets.

mschauer said:

It's good to remember that it isn't only the commercial processed food makers that are guilty of putting profit before the welfare of our pets.

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I know, this is so true -- it's a great reminder. I always knew that it's not just the Purinas who do that but I tend to think of many of the less commercial companies as overcarbing their foods with vegetable matter that sounds smart but is dumb for digestion. The Purr food is evidence of another way costs are kept down. I'm sure there are plenty more examples out there!

mschauer said:

Oh yeah, chicken necks are most definitely cheap. I've seen other products that list chicken necks as the first ingredient. I would never consider feeding one of those.

It's good to remember that it isn't only the commercial processed food makers that are guilty of putting profit before the welfare of our pets.

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True. It's why Dr. Pierson (catinfo) will no longer recommend any commercial raw products (with bone) on her updated list due to raw companies "putting profit before the well being" of pets.

Both my cats were on Primal for several years and did well until one cat started to get badly obstipated. And he was able to handle that bone percentage for those years until he no longer could.

No doubt the anacronistic and corrupt FDA greed gluttons are having themselves a good hardy har har, slapping each others backs for a job well done in putting Rad Cat out of business - absolutely vile, shame on you FDA.

Unbelievable.

Well, I really hope an investor is able to come in and help them out. I don't know that a GoFundMe or something like that would raise enough money. I currently feed a local raw company that lists their bone percentages for each mix, but the lowest I can get is 10%. Busy has been doing well on the 10%, but it was nice to know that RadCat was there in case she needed to switch. It's really sad.

lisamarie12 said:

True. It's why Dr. Pierson (catinfo) will no longer recommend any commercial raw products (with bone) on her updated list due to raw companies "putting profit before the well being" of pets.

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I've been wary of commercial raw products that contain bone ever since I noticed several that claim to have 10% bone content but I knew that wasn't possible given their ingredients. I also think many manufacturers claim to follow the 80/10/10 prey model ratios even when they actually don't, or least don't really know, because they know that is what people want. Or maybe I'm just getting cranky in my old age.

MargoLane said:

Well, I really hope an investor is able to come in and help them out. I don't know that a GoFundMe or something like that would raise enough money. I currently feed a local raw company that lists their bone percentages for each mix, but the lowest I can get is 10%. Busy has been doing well on the 10%, but it was nice to know that RadCat was there in case she needed to switch. It's really sad.

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Yes, I think you're right: they need a real investor who can offer financial stability, not crowdfunding that would provide a relatively small, one-time infusion of cash. They're talking about large sums of money.

And I know what you mean about bone content. Our cats do fine on Primal (around 10%) but that's only about 50-60% of their diet, with most of the rest of their food being boneless. We've been feeding them a Rad Cat snack every afternoon and I've always loved feeding it because they never complain. I have no idea what I'll replace it with.

lisahe said:

Yes, I think you're right: they need a real investor who can offer financial stability, not crowdfunding that would provide a relatively small, one-time infusion of cash. They're talking about large sums of money.

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If what the Rad Cat folks say is true, that the FDA has a zero tolerance policy for bacteria in raw pet foods, they may have a tough time finding an investor. The financial risk would be too great for an investor unless they can be assured Rad Cat can meet that very high standard and it would seem they can't.

I wonder if this is a case of "beware what you ask for". I wonder if the FDA is taking a stronger stance in response to the cry for them to more tightly regulate pet foods after the melamine debacle.

mschauer said:

If what the Rad Cat folks say is true, that the FDA has a zero tolerance policy for bacteria in raw pet foods, they may have a tough time finding an investor. The financial risk would be too great for an investor unless they can be assured Rad Cat can meet that very high standard and it would seem they can't.

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I think you're probably right and it doesn't bode well for commercial raw companies in general. If the FDA continues to hold raw pet food to these standards, what investor would put their money into it? I'm in Canada, so I really don't know the details of the FDA situation but it just seems like they aren't taking into account the nature of the food. Raw meat - human grade or pet food - will have bacteria in it. Period. Seems to me it should be more about the types and levels of bacteria and whether they will actually harm pets or not.