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Hi. I posted last year when I managed to stumble across a friendly stray, who was starving and extremely pregnant, and I've gotten some of the best advice ever on this website. I'm hoping you guys can help me figure out a new problem I've come across- A growing feral population. Ive got a long description of my situation, and the only options I've found so far. Any other possible help is very welcome.
I moved into my house 4 years ago. It's in the country, in a neighborhood surrounded by farmland. When I saw a cat paroling though my yard- I wasn't too surprised, I had plenty of neighbors with "outside" dogs, so I assumed it was someone's pet. 2 or 3 years ago, this original cat (I call Spot, I use descriptive names to distinguish between them) was joined by a friend on his patrols (Brindle). Occasionally I caught a glimpse of one of the two orange cats (Boots and Stubby) in the past three years, but nothing very regular and many people probably wouldn't have known they were the same cats as before.
This year I have a cat who for the past couple weeks almost lives in my yard (Old Man). In the past few months I've counted 8 cats total who have been in my yard multiple times, but there are some even more infrequent visitors, or cats I may not see as regularly- I'm not outside a lot, but see then as I leave and come home. None are ear tipped.
1 & 2. Spot & Brindle- Spot is white with one large grey spot, Brindle is, well, brindle. morning patrolers who stop by the tarp over my wood pile to check for rainwater each morning
3. Shaggy (long haired brindle) was around 2-3 years ago more regularly but I haven't seen him much this year, day time visitor
4. Boots- orange with white boots, had been an infrequent visitor over the years, but possibly because he prefers the roof of an empty house nearby, usually seen around dusk unless he is sunning himself on the roof during the day.
5. Stubby, orange, tiny legs but a full body, not quite a munchkin cat, like a dachsund of cats
6. & 7. Tux and Goatee Tux - Two black tuxedo cats. I know there are at least two- one has a white face with black goatee type spot. I'm not sure if there may be more or not, usually my arrival scared them off so I dont get a distinct look. (My neighbor also has a GIANT tuxedo female who is an inside/outside cat but is spayed and stays in her yard.)
8 & 9. Old Man and Sissy. I believe they are probably kittens of Spot and Brindle. They are both white with brindle spots. Sissy looks like Old Man's sister and comes through around noon. She has a healthy taken care of look. Old Man has started sleeping through the whole afternoon. I'm kinda worried about him- he's pretty easy to sneak up on, especially for a mostly white cat (I almost tripped over him in my garden) He was named for how he moves with a stiff dignity, although about three days ago when he was hiding under my truck from rain, I noticed him bathing some sores on his hind leg. These two are probably young adults- maybe last year's litter.
10. Brindle Baby- hasnt gotten a better name yet. She looks like the undilluted version (black and brown instead of grey and tan) of one of Nelly's babies right down to a tiny spot on her forehead. Im guessing she's around 5-7 months old and is very alert and concerned but semi-interested about human presence. I think she's around a lot more than I see her due to her coloring. She's usually seen when fleeing from where I've accidentally woken her up either at dusk or in early morning.
Year 1 here- I only really saw Spot. occasionally Boots would appear on the neighbor's roof.
Year Two- Spot Brindle and Shaggy were around, Stubby started visiting, Boots occasionally came through. Once there was a sleak small brindle who never reappeared.
Year 3- one of the tux cats and a friendly stray I called Smokey appeared. Smokey ended up being the friendly stray who was pregnant and is now my Nelly. My vet thinks she may have been abandoned due to female cats in heat being annoying/yowling. (Nelly's still a little underweight, a complete garbage disposal, and knows how to high five but is learning more tricks too- she's a pretty good success story) I did see one other grey that looked like Nelly after I had her, but have only seen that cat the one time.
Year 4- now I've seen Shaggy, Spot, and Brindle less, I was afraid they didn't make it through winter, but I've since seen Spot and Brindle at least twice in the past two months. Stubby and Boots have both appeared at least twice in the past two months, Goatee Tux appeared, as well as Old Man, Sissy and Brindle Baby, and those four I've seen at least weekly. Old Man is here basically every afternoon.
I blew through any funds I could use to take care of Nelly and her babies, Owen and Layla. Both kittens seemed to daisy-chain illnesses, despite my best efforts, and Layla's still fighting a reoccuring ear infection that started as an opportunistic infection, at over a year old. Nelly has almost no teeth left, and I fear she probably need to go into to get another yanked soon. (shes already down to one canine and one molar on one side, with the other pretty sparse, but she started with this grey film over her few teeth and gums- really weird and gross).
I want to mention something I learned when I first took on Nelly and the babies- These ferals aren't my responsibility, so I'm going to try to do my best to help, but what I can't do wasn't my responsibility in the first place. It's harsh, but I've already cried myself to sleep over Old Man's leg after I saw him licking the sore spots while he waited our a rain shower under my truck, knowing I cant afford to help him. (Now Nelly, Layla, Owen are my pets and they are my responsibility of course.)
I've resigned myself to the fact that I need to step in and take some sort of action. This year's new cats have a strong familial resemblance to the current cats. Before, new cats like Nelly seemed like new introductions, and the other cats could easily have been sterilized outside cats. With Old Man, Sissy and Brindle Baby, they look like babies of known cats.
I do not feed the cats- besides Nelly they all seem a decent weight, Old Man seems to be the only one with coat issues possibly due to malnourishment, but he doesn't look particularly underweight. I do not feed them as I havent wanted to add to the carrying compacity of the land. I dont want them to be starved or malnourished, but I dont have the money to sterilize much less feed them. I have had some medical issues of my own that forced me to medically withdraw from college (I've wanted to be a vet since I was very little). I have some hefty student loans and medical bills, so when I say I have no money to help out, Im not just saying I dont want to be the one to pay or that I'd like a discount. Besides the growing number of ferals, and that I wont be able to turn down helping issues like pregnant Smokey-turned-Nelly and Old Man's leg, Im also worried more cats means more diseases and that they will bring those into my yard and that my shoes will track things into my home to make my cats sick. My chinchillas and previous cat Tiki's emergancy vet fund took a serious hit when Nelly came into the picture and her and the kittens were unhealthy, and I'm trying to slowly regrow some sort of emergency fund for my pets, but I cant let that go to ferals. (My pets keep getting sick often enough that it's taking a while to build back up, Tiki has allergies and I had to take chinchilla in to an exotic vet because he scratched his cornea with hay and his eye got nasty). I really dont want feral cats bringing diseases into my yard, so I really need to stop any more litters.
I've contacted many organizations around me (like 20-30?) and either they are overfull, or they only cater to residents of another counties. I really don't want to lie to a charity about where I live to get help, and I wouldn't be surprised if they checked. I considered it back before Nelly and her kittens were my pets, to get help for them and it made me way too uneasy. My best option so far seems to be Humane Ohio. I live in S.E. Michigan, but they will let me drive there and don't restrict to state or county residents.
It's a refundable $60 cat trap rental
$27 each for spay/neuter and rabies, along with an ear tip
additional $15 for feline distemper (is that something you would do for feral colonies?)
They keep the cats until the next morning, and say male ferals can be released that day, and ask that females be kept another day in a temperature controlled environment, and that females that were pregnant may need more time. Would a detached garage work for this? How much longer would a pregnant female need?
My SO is a little put out with the cost of the three cats last year, and thier unexpected addition to our family, so he's not fully on board with me taking on 8 more cats as a project, but I can't stand seeing more and more cats that need help. Reaching out to the community here came back with a mix of pet lovers who are already at maximum capacity trying to redirect me to the other already full charities and some idiots who suggested bullets and Chinese restaurants. My current plan is to try some sort of Go Fund Me and see if I can get the $396 for a cat trap rental and 8 cats sterilizations and distempers though Humane Ohio, and see how much more I can get for additional help like whatever's wrong with Old Man's leg, any leftover money would then be donated to other TNR places around here. Would a goal of raising $1000 be do-able and reasonable? I at least need the $200ish for spay and neuters. Are there any places to get grants? How do you go about finding and applying for grants? Are there any places you know of to help out in Southeast Michigan or Northwest Ohio that aren't over-capacity and don't require residence there (or in Monroe County, MI)?
I would like to add rain/winter shelters, but my SO is worried that neighbors will blame us for the feral population if we are seen sheltering them, and Im a little worried that shelter will bring more into my yard more consistently and bring diseases. So for now the plan is just TNR, and I'm estimating for 8 cats based off of who I have seen multiple times in the past couple months. (If I can find a way to get enough funding I could make some "raised gardens" that are over disguised cat shelters with totes foam coolers and straw, but that would mean enough funding to flea spray my yard regularly or some way to ensure the ferals aren't going to spread things to my cats, which I don't anticipate happening) I would love any tips on setting up and managing feral colonies, especially how to do that while keeping your pets safe and healthy.
I moved into my house 4 years ago. It's in the country, in a neighborhood surrounded by farmland. When I saw a cat paroling though my yard- I wasn't too surprised, I had plenty of neighbors with "outside" dogs, so I assumed it was someone's pet. 2 or 3 years ago, this original cat (I call Spot, I use descriptive names to distinguish between them) was joined by a friend on his patrols (Brindle). Occasionally I caught a glimpse of one of the two orange cats (Boots and Stubby) in the past three years, but nothing very regular and many people probably wouldn't have known they were the same cats as before.
This year I have a cat who for the past couple weeks almost lives in my yard (Old Man). In the past few months I've counted 8 cats total who have been in my yard multiple times, but there are some even more infrequent visitors, or cats I may not see as regularly- I'm not outside a lot, but see then as I leave and come home. None are ear tipped.
1 & 2. Spot & Brindle- Spot is white with one large grey spot, Brindle is, well, brindle. morning patrolers who stop by the tarp over my wood pile to check for rainwater each morning
3. Shaggy (long haired brindle) was around 2-3 years ago more regularly but I haven't seen him much this year, day time visitor
4. Boots- orange with white boots, had been an infrequent visitor over the years, but possibly because he prefers the roof of an empty house nearby, usually seen around dusk unless he is sunning himself on the roof during the day.
5. Stubby, orange, tiny legs but a full body, not quite a munchkin cat, like a dachsund of cats
6. & 7. Tux and Goatee Tux - Two black tuxedo cats. I know there are at least two- one has a white face with black goatee type spot. I'm not sure if there may be more or not, usually my arrival scared them off so I dont get a distinct look. (My neighbor also has a GIANT tuxedo female who is an inside/outside cat but is spayed and stays in her yard.)
8 & 9. Old Man and Sissy. I believe they are probably kittens of Spot and Brindle. They are both white with brindle spots. Sissy looks like Old Man's sister and comes through around noon. She has a healthy taken care of look. Old Man has started sleeping through the whole afternoon. I'm kinda worried about him- he's pretty easy to sneak up on, especially for a mostly white cat (I almost tripped over him in my garden) He was named for how he moves with a stiff dignity, although about three days ago when he was hiding under my truck from rain, I noticed him bathing some sores on his hind leg. These two are probably young adults- maybe last year's litter.
10. Brindle Baby- hasnt gotten a better name yet. She looks like the undilluted version (black and brown instead of grey and tan) of one of Nelly's babies right down to a tiny spot on her forehead. Im guessing she's around 5-7 months old and is very alert and concerned but semi-interested about human presence. I think she's around a lot more than I see her due to her coloring. She's usually seen when fleeing from where I've accidentally woken her up either at dusk or in early morning.
Year 1 here- I only really saw Spot. occasionally Boots would appear on the neighbor's roof.
Year Two- Spot Brindle and Shaggy were around, Stubby started visiting, Boots occasionally came through. Once there was a sleak small brindle who never reappeared.
Year 3- one of the tux cats and a friendly stray I called Smokey appeared. Smokey ended up being the friendly stray who was pregnant and is now my Nelly. My vet thinks she may have been abandoned due to female cats in heat being annoying/yowling. (Nelly's still a little underweight, a complete garbage disposal, and knows how to high five but is learning more tricks too- she's a pretty good success story) I did see one other grey that looked like Nelly after I had her, but have only seen that cat the one time.
Year 4- now I've seen Shaggy, Spot, and Brindle less, I was afraid they didn't make it through winter, but I've since seen Spot and Brindle at least twice in the past two months. Stubby and Boots have both appeared at least twice in the past two months, Goatee Tux appeared, as well as Old Man, Sissy and Brindle Baby, and those four I've seen at least weekly. Old Man is here basically every afternoon.
I blew through any funds I could use to take care of Nelly and her babies, Owen and Layla. Both kittens seemed to daisy-chain illnesses, despite my best efforts, and Layla's still fighting a reoccuring ear infection that started as an opportunistic infection, at over a year old. Nelly has almost no teeth left, and I fear she probably need to go into to get another yanked soon. (shes already down to one canine and one molar on one side, with the other pretty sparse, but she started with this grey film over her few teeth and gums- really weird and gross).
I want to mention something I learned when I first took on Nelly and the babies- These ferals aren't my responsibility, so I'm going to try to do my best to help, but what I can't do wasn't my responsibility in the first place. It's harsh, but I've already cried myself to sleep over Old Man's leg after I saw him licking the sore spots while he waited our a rain shower under my truck, knowing I cant afford to help him. (Now Nelly, Layla, Owen are my pets and they are my responsibility of course.)
I've resigned myself to the fact that I need to step in and take some sort of action. This year's new cats have a strong familial resemblance to the current cats. Before, new cats like Nelly seemed like new introductions, and the other cats could easily have been sterilized outside cats. With Old Man, Sissy and Brindle Baby, they look like babies of known cats.
I do not feed the cats- besides Nelly they all seem a decent weight, Old Man seems to be the only one with coat issues possibly due to malnourishment, but he doesn't look particularly underweight. I do not feed them as I havent wanted to add to the carrying compacity of the land. I dont want them to be starved or malnourished, but I dont have the money to sterilize much less feed them. I have had some medical issues of my own that forced me to medically withdraw from college (I've wanted to be a vet since I was very little). I have some hefty student loans and medical bills, so when I say I have no money to help out, Im not just saying I dont want to be the one to pay or that I'd like a discount. Besides the growing number of ferals, and that I wont be able to turn down helping issues like pregnant Smokey-turned-Nelly and Old Man's leg, Im also worried more cats means more diseases and that they will bring those into my yard and that my shoes will track things into my home to make my cats sick. My chinchillas and previous cat Tiki's emergancy vet fund took a serious hit when Nelly came into the picture and her and the kittens were unhealthy, and I'm trying to slowly regrow some sort of emergency fund for my pets, but I cant let that go to ferals. (My pets keep getting sick often enough that it's taking a while to build back up, Tiki has allergies and I had to take chinchilla in to an exotic vet because he scratched his cornea with hay and his eye got nasty). I really dont want feral cats bringing diseases into my yard, so I really need to stop any more litters.
I've contacted many organizations around me (like 20-30?) and either they are overfull, or they only cater to residents of another counties. I really don't want to lie to a charity about where I live to get help, and I wouldn't be surprised if they checked. I considered it back before Nelly and her kittens were my pets, to get help for them and it made me way too uneasy. My best option so far seems to be Humane Ohio. I live in S.E. Michigan, but they will let me drive there and don't restrict to state or county residents.
It's a refundable $60 cat trap rental
$27 each for spay/neuter and rabies, along with an ear tip
additional $15 for feline distemper (is that something you would do for feral colonies?)
They keep the cats until the next morning, and say male ferals can be released that day, and ask that females be kept another day in a temperature controlled environment, and that females that were pregnant may need more time. Would a detached garage work for this? How much longer would a pregnant female need?
My SO is a little put out with the cost of the three cats last year, and thier unexpected addition to our family, so he's not fully on board with me taking on 8 more cats as a project, but I can't stand seeing more and more cats that need help. Reaching out to the community here came back with a mix of pet lovers who are already at maximum capacity trying to redirect me to the other already full charities and some idiots who suggested bullets and Chinese restaurants. My current plan is to try some sort of Go Fund Me and see if I can get the $396 for a cat trap rental and 8 cats sterilizations and distempers though Humane Ohio, and see how much more I can get for additional help like whatever's wrong with Old Man's leg, any leftover money would then be donated to other TNR places around here. Would a goal of raising $1000 be do-able and reasonable? I at least need the $200ish for spay and neuters. Are there any places to get grants? How do you go about finding and applying for grants? Are there any places you know of to help out in Southeast Michigan or Northwest Ohio that aren't over-capacity and don't require residence there (or in Monroe County, MI)?
I would like to add rain/winter shelters, but my SO is worried that neighbors will blame us for the feral population if we are seen sheltering them, and Im a little worried that shelter will bring more into my yard more consistently and bring diseases. So for now the plan is just TNR, and I'm estimating for 8 cats based off of who I have seen multiple times in the past couple months. (If I can find a way to get enough funding I could make some "raised gardens" that are over disguised cat shelters with totes foam coolers and straw, but that would mean enough funding to flea spray my yard regularly or some way to ensure the ferals aren't going to spread things to my cats, which I don't anticipate happening) I would love any tips on setting up and managing feral colonies, especially how to do that while keeping your pets safe and healthy.