Corona Virus Now Spreading

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Roasted Brussels sprouts are good. Lightly steamed is OK. Boiled, you might as well throw them right in the trash :tongue: .

I read one article that said stores should use this opportunity to decide what to stock. If even panic buyers don't want to buy something, maybe it's time to discontinue it!
 

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i just dont understand where people are finding the money to leave with huge carts of stuff. i doubt the limits are being imposed, except for toilet paper where you have to make lines to get it. Otherwise i dont think they care what you buy.

Im more scared of the panic buyers than i am of the virus. Going to the stores and seeing everything so bare is scary. It makes me a bit panicky wondering when people will run out of money, or fridge space. People take things to such an extreme that its scary. No, im not saying i want people to run out of money, i just mean that i wonder when they will feel that they've hoarded enough stuff that they can give a chance to other people to buy.

The feminine product aisle was empty every time i went last week to walmart, thank god i normally have a lot of them around due to my health issues. The stores and articles keep stating that theres enough products and they just need to send them to stores. But my walmart has been half bare for over a week.

Its crazy out there.
 

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It depends on the country. Germany hasn't closed its airports because they're trying to get up to 100,000 people back home. So many commercial flights have been cancelled that people are stranded in countries going into lockdown.

Coronavirus: German government to fly home tens of thousands of tourists
Wow! I was talking to a German tourist this past weekend. She had planned to stay in Korea for 3 months and got here right before it hit, so all of her friends who were going to come later canceled and she was planning to leave early. I wonder if she is getting on one of these flights. Korea probably would've been a priority a couple of weeks ago, but we're not on lockdown, so I'm sure priorities are elsewhere. She might be better off sticking around.

My Korean friend who was living in Vietnam finally got back last Saturday. The Korean government couldn't do anything to help her (and they were busy trying to bail the tourists out of surprise quarantine) so she had to watch for flights through a travel agency. Instead of taking a 5 hour direct flight, she had to have a long layover in a country that still had a route back to Korea. Inconvenient, but I'm glad she was able to get back.

Just last September when Thomas Cook went under, the UK spent a load of money repatriating stranded tourists. Probably not a lot left in the till
 

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Wouldn't work, even if we had the test kits available. It appears that the tests can easily produce false negatives for people who aren't showing symptoms yet.

Yes, we need a better test. No, we don't have it, at least, not yet.
I stand corrected (again -- not an uncommon occurrence). I saw a report about a small town in Italy where they tested everyone in town, and isolated all those who tested positive even if they weren't showing symptoms yet. A month later (I may have the length of time wrong) they tested everyone again, and again isolated all those who tested positive. And the next time they tested there were no positive results. They haven't had a single case since.
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In other news, we finally got emergency notifications for something other than Covid today! Typhoon-force winds!
Oh, goody! (Snark.) Seriously, though, stay safe.

One hint I do have for you though is to check the store’s shop back area. When there are quantity limits the extra stuff in people’s carts gets put in an area for reshelving. I have found some things not on the shelves in these bins.
Excellent idea!

Today in the span of 4 hours we had people from various churches stop and ask if we needed food. They were accompanied by the police so that no one would panic and assume that they were scams. Maybe churches in other areas will do the same thing.

I have to say my new police force has really gone over and beyond since the new Bel Ridge police chief came two years ago and have monthly donuts with cops program where you meet with them at local shop for free coffee and donuts and ask questions. With the new coronavirus, they are dropping off coffee and donuts for all citizens this weekend. Crime here has dwindled as a result. I'm talking about my suburban village, not the entire St. Louis area. They even look out and protect the feral cats in the area and make note of which cat belongs in which colony.
That's incredibly good news!

There were actually some packs of white rolls left which is what I needed anyway so I'm good (1 pack of 6, I'm not hoarding correctly lol).
I can see that we'll need to take you in hand, give you some proper lessons in selfishness. (Snark, again.)

In our area, the small neighborhood grocery stores are currently better stocked than the bigger chain grocery stores (like Safeway, Whole Foods, etc) and also less crowded.
My neighborhood has two grocery stores (not counting the little convenience shops associated with gas stations) - a King Soopers (Colorado version of Kroger) and a Safeway. King Soopers is the larger store, with better coupons usually, so they're also the store that's been shopped out. When I went to Safeway a couple days ago I was able to get a four-week supply of cat food for Bright Eyes without even coming close to depleting their supply, and they also still had cat litter. I bought a single box (because that's how much I need for the next little while), though I could have bought more.

Yes im in usa, just worried when I see things like this that our country will follow along. I know that's silly, just worried. :sigh:
  1. It's not silly. We seem to be following the same curve in the U.S. as Italy, just about three weeks behind them.
  2. It is, however, counterproductive. Because we're about three weeks behind Italy, we're able to learn from Italy's experience, and minimize the danger for ourselves and our families. So instead of worrying, try to look at all the things you're doing to keep safe, and think whether there's anything else you can do. Use it to stimulate your problem-solving ability rather than to keep you awake at night worrying.
  3. This would probably be a good time to binge watch Simon's Cat videos on YouTube, or take up a new hobby (especially if you can get the supplies by mail order and they're supplies that can easily be sanitized), or to catch up on reading all those good books you've been collecting to read "someday." Someday has arrived!
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  1. It's not silly. We seem to be following the same curve in the U.S. as Italy, just about three weeks behind them.
  2. It is, however, counterproductive. Because we're about three weeks behind Italy, we're able to learn from Italy's experience, and minimize the danger for ourselves and our families. So instead of worrying, try to look at all the things you're doing to keep safe, and think whether there's anything else you can do. Use it to stimulate your problem-solving ability rather than to keep you awake at night worrying.
  3. This would probably be a good time to binge watch Simon's Cat videos on YouTube, or take up a new hobby (especially if you can get the supplies by mail order and they're supplies that can easily be sanitized), or to catch up on reading all those good books you've been collecting to read "someday." Someday has arrived!
Margret
Thank you! Thankfully my job has sent us home, so most of my family is home. I try not to stress, it just gets to me sometimes.

;) I haven't had time in years to make a scrapbook. I just ordered some pictures of my nephew, so I can work on his first year scrapbook.
 

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I stand corrected (again -- not an uncommon occurrence). I saw a report about a small town in Italy where they tested everyone in town, and isolated all those who tested positive even if they weren't showing symptoms yet. A month later (I may have the length of time wrong) they tested everyone again, and again isolated all those who tested positive. And the next time they tested there were no positive results. They haven't had a single case since.
:dancingblackcat:

Oh, goody! (Snark.) Seriously, though, stay safe.
That is similar to the approach Korea took. When the cult thing happened, they forcibly got a list of every member and tested them (I mean, that has other implications, but in this situation was justifiable) and everyone in the cult was sent to self-quarantine regardless since members are known to frequent different congregations; and then again when it happened at a call center. Everyone got tested on all floors of that specific business and everyone in the building went into self-quarantine.

We are mostly worried about imported cases now. Many of the new cases in Seoul have been people returning from Europe. My how the tables have turned...:(

All's well on the wind front. There were some small wildfires and property damage out in the mountains, but nothing too serious! Today the weather is beautiful!
 

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terestrife terestrife I know you were worried about your upcoming doctor's appointment. I spoke with my dad (not about this or anything, he was just telling me in general what things are like in his office), and there is a real worry that as things get moved around and there's a rapid disorganized move to doing more telemedicine than they're used to that some patients won't get scheduled for things that they should be scheduled for. So to you and everyone else who has a concerning or potentially concerning condition, please do fight to keep appointments that you need if they try to reschedule you. They're not going to make the right call on everything right now because they are overwhelmed. Some things will get classified as elective that really shouldn't be, so if you're in pain or at risk for something, please appeal these decisions. Remember, it's not being selfish. We all need to stay as healthy as we can right now for the good of everyone.
 

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They are looking at an old antimalarial drug for this. It is being studied here and in Europe. China tried to use it for advanced cases and it didn't work. The believe here is that it works by stopping the virus from invading and taking over cells so it wouldn't work on advanced cases. It would help in the beginning stages and it would work as a preventative. It actually is of little use for malaria now because malaria in most regions has become resistant to it.
 
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