Tnr Questions

[walli]

Thanks all!
sheesh I can't believe this! I got enough going on!
We feed early in the morning, we will have to adjust what we do!

 

[tarasgirl06]

Thanks all!
sheesh I can't believe this! I got enough going on!
We feed early in the morning, we will have to adjust what we do!

Cats in their natural state are crepuscular, meaning they are most active at dawn and dusk when their natural prey, small rodents, are active. So you're actually feeding at the right time.

 

[dahlia]

Your comment about slinking around in the dark made me chuckle because that is exactly how I feel when I feed the cats on the way to work in the morning. I am just happy no one has called the police on me.

 

[walli]

Yeah, it feels weird, here in California it's not illegal to feed cats, we feed on the sidewalk so I think that is ok too! My friend who feeds the cats is so bold and confident I am learning from her! I'm one to care too much about what people think, but starting to learn. I need to have a good attitude but also not worry so much, but yeah I'm a slinker!

So my friend fed only the cats that were there when she was feeding and then when I left for work I drove around for awhile and found 1 more, so only orange & white didn't get food, I may leave some for him when I get home, not sure.
Orange & White still needs a name and so does Black Fluffy if anybody has any ideas.
I tend to worry too much when cats don't get food like Orange & white this morning, possibly short haired black didn't get any either, not sure if he/she is coming everyday.
Any advise on not worrying so much?

We have Sammy the grey tabby
Tex the tuxedo
orange & white
black fluffy
there is a short haired black we haven't TNR'd but not consistent enough to get that one yet.

Thanks tarasgirl about us feeding at the right time, I always 2nd guess myself!

 

[tarasgirl06]

Yeah, it feels weird, here in California it's not illegal to feed cats, we feed on the sidewalk so I think that is ok too! My friend who feeds the cats is so bold and confident I am learning from her! I'm one to care too much about what people think, but starting to learn. I need to have a good attitude but also not worry so much, but yeah I'm a slinker!

So my friend fed only the cats that were there when she was feeding and then when I left for work I drove around for awhile and found 1 more, so only orange & white didn't get food, I may leave some for him when I get home, not sure.
Orange & White still needs a name and so does Black Fluffy if anybody has any ideas.
I tend to worry too much when cats don't get food like Orange & white this morning, possibly short haired black didn't get any either, not sure if he/she is coming everyday.
Any advise on not worrying so much?

We have Sammy the grey tabby
Tex the tuxedo
orange & white
black fluffy
there is a short haired black we haven't TNR'd but not consistent enough to get that one yet.

Thanks tarasgirl about us feeding at the right time, I always 2nd guess myself!

In my experience, cats usually let me know their names in time. Don't ask. Just accept.

Well, it's normal to be concerned but all I can say is if you are spiritual at all, to pray for them to be safe. Cats in the wild do catch prey -- their favorite is small rodents, who are present in just about any environment whether or not we know it. So hopefully, anyone who is not getting the food you put out will be able to catch prey. You'll be able to tell if someone is thin and in need on sight.

 

[walli]

Thanks Tarasgirl-comforting!

 

[walli]

Update on the street cats, I chased another coyote down the street last week.
I didn't mean to but ended up chasing him toward the cats feeding area.
The only cat out was Tex at that time, but I'm sure it scared the crap out of him.
coyote running and me running!

I have been standing guard at the end of the street and forgot about the side street, that coyote was coming from the side street, but it was actually starting to go the other way out of our street, and dumb me, the way I approached him, he went behind me.

All this time I've been feeling like a crazy person, coyote watching, but I think it's necessary right now. I stay with Tex while he eats now, the other 3 don't come out right away.
My friend who usually feeds is dealing with it too at her house, she lost a cat to a coyote the other day, she has lots of cats over there,
she is changing some things around so the cats are eating up higher. she is changing the time of day she is feeding too, so with all that going on, I told her I would feed the cats on my street. She will help again when all this quiets down.
I think February is the worst month for the coyotes.
Plus with Daylight savings time coming, It's going to be a problem as I leave for work early most days, so it will be darker later for awhile.

I have considered building something in my yard for the cats, but they have a really good escape route where they are eating now across the street from my house, plus I can't add anymore to my situation right now as Walli and Joey are going to start to socialize soon.

If anyone has any ideas on safely feeding Ferals let me know, maybe for next winter!

 

[tarasgirl06]

Update on the street cats, I chased another coyote down the street last week.
I didn't mean to but ended up chasing him toward the cats feeding area.
The only cat out was Tex at that time, but I'm sure it scared the crap out of him.
coyote running and me running!

I have been standing guard at the end of the street and forgot about the side street, that coyote was coming from the side street, but it was actually starting to go the other way out of our street, and dumb me, the way I approached him, he went behind me.

All this time I've been feeling like a crazy person, coyote watching, but I think it's necessary right now. I stay with Tex while he eats now, the other 3 don't come out right away.
My friend who usually feeds is dealing with it too at her house, she lost a cat to a coyote the other day, she has lots of cats over there,
she is changing some things around so the cats are eating up higher. she is changing the time of day she is feeding too, so with all that going on, I told her I would feed the cats on my street. She will help again when all this quiets down.
I think February is the worst month for the coyotes.
Plus with Daylight savings time coming, It's going to be a problem as I leave for work early most days, so it will be darker later for awhile.

I have considered building something in my yard for the cats, but they have a really good escape route where they are eating now across the street from my house, plus I can't add anymore to my situation right now as Walli and Joey are going to start to socialize soon.

If anyone has any ideas on safely feeding Ferals let me know, maybe for next winter!

Are you in an area where it's not illegal to shoot the coyotes? Horrible things.

 

[walli]

funny! I live in the suburbs, but believe me I have walked through in my mind the entire scenario of this exact thing! It ends up with me going to jail!
I do feel bad for the coyotes sometimes too, they are hungry.
But I think they need to stay out of the burbs! Don't know why the cities can't do something, It's a huge problem.

one thing too, I notice people posting on Next-door about coyote sightings
and I think part of the problem is people are ignoring coyotes, they need to be more frightened of us. Make noise! chase them off!

 

[walli]

So I have 1 more cat to trap, He's a short hair Tuxedo
I Feed the 4 cats that I have trapped and Neutered (all boys) and this one.
one of the 4 is a long hair Tuxedo (Tex), Him and the short haired don't get along
I tried to trap the short haired one a couple weeks ago, he started to go in and popped out as I was walking towards the trap (I had no idea he was there, was going to give it up for the day) so anyway the problem is Tex was hanging around the trap, that's why I was walking up to the trap, wondering if he went in it. Tex is already neutered, but I know he is going to be a pain when I try to Trap the Short haired Tuxedo, Should I try and trap Tex to get him out of the way?

So Tex is always there 1st thing when I feed, the other cats don't come out till later because Tex is kind of a bully with the food.

I'm noticing Short haired tuxedo comes a bit later. (This morning they were both there at the same time, I just left the food and went to work.
but the norm is Tex eats first.

My plan was to feed Tex and remove the food, It almost worked had I not walked up to the Trap!!

any suggestions?

 

[maggiedemi]

That's amazing that you trapped & neutered all but one!

 

[tarasgirl06]

So I have 1 more cat to trap, He's a short hair Tuxedo
I Feed the 4 cats that I have trapped and Neutered (all boys) and this one.
one of the 4 is a long hair Tuxedo (Tex), Him and the short haired don't get along
I tried to trap the short haired one a couple weeks ago, he started to go in and popped out as I was walking towards the trap (I had no idea he was there, was going to give it up for the day) so anyway the problem is Tex was hanging around the trap, that's why I was walking up to the trap, wondering if he went in it. Tex is already neutered, but I know he is going to be a pain when I try to Trap the Short haired Tuxedo, Should I try and trap Tex to get him out of the way?

So Tex is always there 1st thing when I feed, the other cats don't come out till later because Tex is kind of a bully with the food.

I'm noticing Short haired tuxedo comes a bit later. (This morning they were both there at the same time, I just left the food and went to work.
but the norm is Tex eats first.

My plan was to feed Tex and remove the food, It almost worked had I not walked up to the Trap!!

any suggestions?

Tex wouldn't come inside and be an indoor guy, would he? *Just a thought*

 

[shadowsrescue]

Wow!!! Great job!! I wouldn't try to retrap Tex. I would try to lure him to you with something yummy though. I had this problem when trapping. I had two that were really bonded. One was neutered the other was not. My neutered boy kept trying to go into the trap. I was finally able to lure him away from the one I needed to trap with some stinky tuna. Keep trying!

 

[walli]

OK! I knew there wouldn't be any cure!
He was in the trap before so he may go in again.
They have clinics on certain days of the month, so I'm kinda needing him to go in when I want him to, otherwise I have to wait a month!

Wasn't sure about Retrapping Tex, I was hesitant so prolly a good idea not to retrap him.

No way I could bring Tex in the house, still trying to socialize the Feral that I do have in the house, Tex doesn't like other cats!!!
The other 3 we trapped are friends, I call them the 3 Amigos!

You would think the 2 Tuxedos would get along!
You would think they would say "Hey! you look like me"!

I'll keep trying, my friend has a difficult to trap cat over at her house too!

 

[tarasgirl06]

OK! I knew there wouldn't be any cure!
He was in the trap before so he may go in again.
They have clinics on certain days of the month, so I'm kinda needing him to go in when I want him to, otherwise I have to wait a month!

Wasn't sure about Retrapping Tex, I was hesitant so prolly a good idea not to retrap him.

No way I could bring Tex in the house, still trying to socialize the Feral that I do have in the house, Tex doesn't like other cats!!!
The other 3 we trapped are friends, I call them the 3 Amigos!

You would think the 2 Tuxedos would get along!
You would think they would say "Hey! you look like me"!

I'll keep trying, my friend has a difficult to trap cat over at her house too!

*Good on ya* and on your friend! And it's never over 'til it's over.
Yeah, you'd think that about those two tuxes, wouldn't you? But cats are smarter than people. They don't stop at superficial.

 

[walli]

So I feed the Street Ferals across the street from my house, There are no house fronts there, It's the side of 2 houses, I feed them in the middle of the 2 houses
there are pretty big overhanging bushes there, It's not totally visible or an eye sore to anyone, Somebody Threw my cat food bowls and water in the middle of the street, a few days ago it was just the water bowl, it was after I picked up the food bowls, I thought it was just some random thing. But someone is having a problem with my cat food and water being there, I suspect it is a dog walker.
This bums me out, If they know it is there can they not go around it?
I'm almost 100% it's not the people's sides of the house that are doing this.
I am not on anyones property it's on the sidewalk and I have it kind of in the bushes so it's not even in the middle of the sidewalk.

I left a note stating what quite a few people in our town is doing, and that it would take me 2-3 weeks to move the food to my house, I regret saying that actually
why should I have to move it? Am I doing anything wrong?
should I change my note?
Change causes me to be anxious, I hate this! Anybody have any suggestions?
Why do people have to be mean?

 

[tarasgirl06]

So I feed the Street Ferals across the street from my house, There are no house fronts there, It's the side of 2 houses, I feed them in the middle of the 2 houses
there are pretty big overhanging bushes there, It's not totally visible or an eye sore to anyone, Somebody Threw my cat food bowls and water in the middle of the street, a few days ago it was just the water bowl, it was after I picked up the food bowls, I thought it was just some random thing. But someone is having a problem with my cat food and water being there, I suspect it is a dog walker.
This bums me out, If they know it is there can they not go around it?
I'm almost 100% it's not the people's sides of the house that are doing this.
I am not on anyones property it's on the sidewalk and I have it kind of in the bushes so it's not even in the middle of the sidewalk.

I left a note stating what quite a few people in our town is doing, and that it would take me 2-3 weeks to move the food to my house, I regret saying that actually
why should I have to move it? Am I doing anything wrong?
should I change my note?
Change causes me to be anxious, I hate this! Anybody have any suggestions?
Why do people have to be mean?

No, you are doing RIGHT. But I would always remember, in any situation where cats are involved and there is opposition, to put the CATS' safety and wellbeing first. Don't bring egos into it at all. The cats are outdoors, defenseless. You are their helper and their advocate. So please, don't let "you" get in the way of them. It sounds to me as if your note is perfect. You need to accomplish your goal, which is to feed them in/by your house. You are doing that. Help the problem person to understand that where you are currently feeding is temporary and that they will not be inconvenienced for long. If possible, if you can talk to them calmly and explain this face to face, it may help them to become less hostile. *PRAYERS* for you and for the cats! And THANK YOU for being their friend and their advocate.

 

[walli]

I agree about the egos, My letter was very nice and I thanked them for their patience, getting back in their face would cause a huge problem.
I think my post was expressing my frustration, because really they are being jerks!!
just between us cat folks
Not sure who is doing it yet, It would be great to meet them, I find once you talk to people they tend to soften and don't even realize that someone isn't intentionally trying to ruin their day!
I put in the note it could take me 2-3 weeks to move the food, I would like more time, as where they are now is shaded, I would like to make some shade for the food, but that may not be possible at first.
ugh!! I hate change!

 

[tarasgirl06]

I agree about the egos, My letter was very nice and I thanked them for their patience, getting back in their face would cause a huge problem.
I think my post was expressing my frustration, because really they are being jerks!!
just between us cat folks
Not sure who is doing it yet, It would be great to meet them, I find once you talk to people they tend to soften and don't even realize that someone isn't intentionally trying to ruin their day!
I put in the note it could take me 2-3 weeks to move the food, I would like more time, as where they are now is shaded, I would like to make some shade for the food, but that may not be possible at first.
ugh!! I hate change!

*You, me, and cats, @walli.* Got it. Yeah, if people have hearts in their chests rather than shrivelled little bits of protoplasm, they should understand especially if you could let them see that you care very much for the cats AND are trying to deal with them considerately as well.*

 

[walli]

I found the person dumping the food!
It's the drunk girl that stays at her Mom's across the street, I saw the Mom coming from the cat food area and the food was dumped in the street. So I went over there and had a conversation with the son and he said it's not his mom but his sister that was doing it. So I stayed and talked awhile, this family is the crazy family, cops use to come all the time for the daughter, since the father died it hasn't been as bad, so when I go to leave I see the daughter coming down the street, I say Hello and start talking to her about the cats, she started getting a little belligerent, but than I started talking to her about the situation and she asked me "you love these cats"? I said yes and then she said I am going to support you! (she is drunk) so anyway I guess that went well, but then this morning when I go to feed the cats there's is a bowl of Sardines or some kind of fish that was left there overnight. ugh!
So looks like I have a "helper"
I will now make sure there isn't any food out there at night, hopefully she forgets to put the food out there, one thing too, I am attempting to trap this weekend and if they are already getting fishy food, this could be a hinderance.
sheesh! I don't want to say anything to her, she could go off at anytime.
you can't make this stuff up!