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Venezuela's Socialist Dictatorship Finally Ending?

Discussion in 'IMO: In My Opinion' started by orange&white, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. Q2U

    Q2U TCS Member Super Cat

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    A tad off-topic but this is Andrés Miguel Rondón, a Venezuelan citizen, speaking of Hugo Chávez...

    "The recipe for populism is universal. Find a wound common to many, find someone to blame for it, and make up a good story to tell. Mix it all together. Tell the wounded you know how they feel. That you found the bad guys. Label them: the minorities, the politicians, the businessmen. Caricature them. As vermin, evil masterminds, haters and losers, you name it. Then paint yourself as the savior. Capture the people’s imagination. Forget about policies and plans, just enrapture them with a tale. One that starts with anger and ends in vengeance. A vengeance they can participate in."

    Mr. Rondón goes on to write...

    Donald Trump is an avowed capitalist; Hugo Chávez was a socialist with communist dreams. One builds skyscrapers, the other expropriated them. But politics is only one-half policy: The other, darker half is rhetoric. Sometimes the rhetoric takes over. Such has been our lot in Venezuela for the past two decades — and such is yours now, Americans. Because in one regard, Trump and Chávez are identical. They are both masters of populism.

    Read Mr. Rondón's entire opinion here...
     
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  2. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    This article is a Venezuelan woman's reflection on living through over a decade of crushing dictatorship, and an expression of how the Venezuelan's finally have the first rays of hope for legitimate government.
    Venezuela’s Very Normal Revolution

    Guaido's taking the first steps in the right direction to take oil out of strict government control and allow private oil companies to come in and help them rebuild their deteriorated and neglected oil infrastructure.
    Venezuela: Juan Guaido will open up oil deals to foreign private companies, opposition leader's US envoy says
     
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  3. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    Rondon missed one main point. Venezuela crumbled when Chavez performed a hostile takeover of private businesses and private means of food production and put everything under government control.

    But yes, I've seen similarities between Trump, Ocasio-Cortez, and Bernie Sanders in being experts at populist rhetoric. So certainly Chavez was a very talented populist propagandist with his "Take from the rich and give to all the people" Socialist platform. Maduro the bus driver...eh...not so talented at communicating a convincing spiel.
     
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  4. Q2U

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    The long sorrowful history of right-wing and left-wing political turmoil, murder, and abuse of the populations of Central and South America leaves me cynical skeptical of the self-assured claims of a bright democratic future under Guaido. Something...just something...suggests that it's all about the oil money and -- come the end game -- democracy will be cast aside yet again. And then I hear that Trump proudly championing the sunrise of "democracy in Venezuela"...

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  5. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    Guaido is only there as the interim president. His job is to reset Venezuela's constitution to what it was when they had separate branches. Maduro trashed the country's constitution, wrote his own constitution, and filled positions with his own picks. Guaido is to enable the country to schedule and elect a new legitimate President as soon as he can.
     

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  7. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    Food fight.

    Maduro says he will not allow the pallets of food and medical supplies to enter the country. Humanitarian aid from several countries is waiting at the border in Colombia, Brazil and one unnamed location. He claims the food is just an excuse for military to come in and start a war.

    Guaido is concerned that Maduro's military, if they do allow the aid to cross, will confiscate it and give it to the Chavista's (Maduro's supporters and loyalists - mostly military, police and government workers). The food may not get to the poor if it is allowed into the country.

    Venezuela's Guaido challenging Maduro through humanitarian aid
     
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  8. JamesCalifornia

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    ~ :sigh:` Sounds like our own liberal U.S. Supreme Court Justices
     
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  9. Willowy

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    LOL. Sounds just like Trump actually.
     
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  10. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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  11. JamesCalifornia

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    ~ Sadly this says it all about Maduro :frown:
     
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  12. orange&white

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    Fight for control of CITGO...

    Guaido will be naming a new CEO and board of directors for CITGO this week. CITGO is the Venezuelan-government-owned oil refinery business in the US with refineries in Houston, Louisiana, and Illinois. They ship and sell gasoline through about 6,000 US gas stations. Russia controls 49% as collateral against debt.

    The US will be recognizing the new board, selected by Guaido. Funds from the company will go to accounts of the new government, squeezing Maduro out of a significant amount of cash.

    The Venezuela Maduro regime is expected to sue over the takeover.

    Venezuela opposition will name new Citgo board this week - WSJ
     
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  13. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    The first convoy of US Aid arrived at the storage warehouse in Columbia today.

    Maduro calls humanitarian aid a "show":
    “The so-called ‘humanitarian aid’ operation is a show, a cheap show, a bad show,” Maduro said in interview with Mexican newspaper La Jornada published on Thursday. “You can be sure that it won’t disturb Venezuela.”

    Looks like it's going to be up to the Venezuelan military to flip loyalty from the Maduro regime to the starving Venezuelans and help get the aid into the country.

    Venezuela aid trucks arrive in Colombia as EU calls for dialogue | Reuters
     

  14. JamesCalifornia

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    ~ :ruminating: Just thinking . .. If the US has a strategy and plays the cards right - with a little luck this situation could put both Russia & China in a financial limbo with Big Don calling the shots. May even be able to work in lieu of sanctions ... ?
     
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  15. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    Or it is already turning into a new Cold War.

    Russia and China have large stakes in this Venezuelan government outcome.

    Maduro borrowed tens of billions of dollars each from Russia and China, pocketed the money for himself and his loyalists, and then didn't pay back China. He welched on payments to China so is shipping them "free" oil to repay debt. He's making minimum payments to Russia, since they would assassinate him if he didn't, although those payments may be "free" gold bars since Russia doesn't need oil.

    Anyway, Venezuela might be the one to put Russia and China in financial pain if the new government declares that any loans or deals made under an illegitimate President Maduro are null and void.

    Best if the US rightly says that those loans are strictly between those two countries and Venezuela. Not our business.
     
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  16. orange&white

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    Guaido isn't ruling out authorizing US intervention to push Maduro out of office. I hate to read this, and hope that it's a very last resort.

    You'd think that cutting of Maduro's cash flow with the oil sanctions would be enough. If he has no cash, he can't pay his military. If they don't get paid, they should quickly switch loyalties and back the peaceful government transition. On the other hand, if Russia/China/Cuba funds him to keep him propped up then...:dunno:

    Meanwhile, Maduro continues to say there is no crisis in Venezuela and won't allow the humanitarian aid into the country.

    Venezuela's Guaido won't rule out authorizing US intervention
     

  17. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    Trying to avoid frozen accounts and keep the money, Maduro has opened Russian bank accounts and is asking customers to reroute payments to the new accounts in either US dollars or Euros (he has made Venezuelan currency completely worthless).
    Venezuela shifts oil ventures' accounts to Russian bank - document, sources

    Also scrambling to replace lost US business (at 500 million barrels/day), the regime's oil minister says they plan to double oil "sales" to India. Venezuela purchases medicines among imports from India, so it's hoping to barter off it's oil in exchange for import products.
    Venezuela's PDVSA seeks to barter its oil with India | Reuters

    Meanwhile, interim President Guaido has lined up 100,000 volunteers who he hopes the military will allow to accept and distribute the humanitarian aid to those who are most in need. The next street protests are scheduled for tomorrow.
    Venezuela opposition plans aid hub in Brazil, mobilizes volunteers
     

  18. orange&white

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    The US has air lifted an additional 200 tons of humanitarian aid to the Colombian border with Venezuela. It's expected to arrive today. Still no word on how it can get past Maduro's military with Maduro still saying that the country does not need any help.

    The US also placed sanctions on more Venezuelan individuals yesterday, mainly petroleum industry people.

    U.S. raises pressure on Maduro via sanctions, aid airlift

    The IMF is predicting a fairly quick end of Maduro's dictatorial reign now that sanctions have been placed on their oil trade. The IMF Fund is preparing to help with a massive financial aid package that will be required to help get the country back on its feet.

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
     

  20. orange&white

    orange&white Thread Starter TCS Member Top Cat

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    Trump spoke from Miami yesterday to an audience mostly Venezuelan and Cuban immigrants, promising that aid is coming to Venezuela soon and imploring Maduro's supporters to side with the people. He also talked about the dangers of socialism and vowed again that the US will never be a socialist country.

    Meanwhile Guaido has requested 1 million citizen volunteers to help receive and distribute the food and medical humanitarian aid to the people who need it most (9 out of 10 people there are living in poverty). Saturday is the day Guaido promised to get the aid into the country.

    Yesterday, Venezuela's state internet provider CANTV has blocked a webpage where volunteers sign up to answer National Assembly president Juan Guaido's call to help bring in desperately needed humanitarian aid.
     

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