My mom teaches Defensive Driving. There is actually a point (known as the Go Point) that you must continue even if the light is yellow. Not doing so, is dangerous since even if you have time to stop, a person behind you with less than adequate stopping distance may not. The Go Point moves dependent on weather and other factors.
Of course you do!
And tomorrow and the next day and the next day and so on and so forth. 
Yes, and when pulling a trailer, you don't stop either. But this wasn't the case. He wasn't even up to the cross walk yet. Up here, the only time the cops give you a break is when you are pulling a trailer, or it's a big vehicle like an RV. The speed limit is only 35mph and I guess they figure you need to stop. And don't try to fight it, the cops are related to the judge. It's easier to pay the fine and the $25 to the traffic school in the neighboring town.
At thirty five miles per hour I would assume you could stop easily. The normal place for a go point is the point at which the turn lane on either side begins. I'm also basing this on what they teach in WA state, so I'm sure it could be different.
arouetta
tank top. I die when it's 70.
The crosswalk is always after the stop line, not before. Such a ticket can be fought, you can ask the judge to recuse himself and if he doesn't, use that as a basis to represent yourself for an appeal.
No, the crosswalk is at the corner where you would turn right. The stop light is on a post on the other side of the intersection. I haven't been to Phoenix in 16 years, well maybe 3 times and only the outskirts of Mesa, so I'm not sure how those are set up. But if memory serves, they are the same.
Kashmir is talking about the stop line (I believe). Which is a thick white line painted on the pavement. You must legally stop at this line rather than stopping in the crosswalk or further into the intersection. Not all intersections have them, but if they do they are before a crosswalk.
We don't have the white line, only the crosswalk which serves at the white line. But, yes, that is what I'm talking about.
NewYork1303
stopping behind the white line or crosswalk when making a left turn could mean you sit there forever if the oncoming traffic does not stop before the light turns red which is quite possible when traffic is heavy and people squeeze by when it is already yellow. Here in CA we go forward as far as possible into the intersection and wait there for oncoming traffic to cease so that you can complete your turn. Sometimes that means only one car can get across with several still waiting. It's nice when there is a left turn signal light but not all intersections have those and they don't all have turn lanes either (that's when it gets really tricky as traffic piles up behind you and they don't all want to turn).
NewYork1303
is talking about is right turns. If WA is anything like AZ, then right on red is completely legal unless otherwise posted. People tend to 'creep' up past the crosswalk or lines then wait until it's clear to turn. This causes problems. You are not allowed to 'creep' in order to see better and sometimes must wait to make a right turn.
How fun! And it does make sense.
Tank top with jacket over it. Prepared for anything!
Tell me about it! I see no reason for it to EVER be over 72 degrees. Ever. I get sick and my skin peels off.
Terrific! Who belongs to that beautifully ringed tail?
The law in WA used to be like the one in AZ. You used to be able to turn left by getting out into the intersection and then turning as the light went to red. Now that isn't the case anymore. Which sucks. Admittedly so few people know about the new change that people are still going out to make a left turn and then turning even after the light is red. Very few police are enforcing the change yet... but we'll see if that changes.Making a left turn is different. If you are already in the intersection when the light changes then you complete your turn. What
My original post, however, my son was not even up to the lines and got marked down for stopping for the yellow. It reminds me of the movie Starman. Red means stop, green means go and yellow means go very fast.
