Hi, new here but have been lurking for a bit. Wasn't sure if I should start a new thread or ask here. My cat has been on L-Lysine for about 2months now and I was going to add Lactoferrin as the stubborn herpes eye infection just won't go away completely. I got Jarrow's Lactoferrin but my cat vomitted right after. Anyone else have any experience with their cats vomiting on lactoferrin?
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Stubborn herpes infection? Add Lactoferrin in addition to Lysine
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I just read this with great interest, as our cat with FIV and FHV almost always has some kind of URI, which the vet always wants to treat with Convenia. Ack!
What brand of colostrum do you use? That's the only thing you mentioned that we don't already have on hand, and I just want to make sure we get the right one. ;-)
Did you mix it in with your cat's food? My cat never vomited on it. I use the Jarrow brand too.
Try half a cap, mixed in with food, twice a day. If your cat vomits, try it with a quarter cap and see what happens.
Try half a cap, mixed in with food, twice a day. If your cat vomits, try it with a quarter cap and see what happens.
My cat was on 250 mg of lactoferrin and 500 mg of lysine per day for almost two years. He did well on it. I have kept him on half of that amount for the past almost two years, since trying Polyprenyl.
He had a weepy eye, but nothing like his old outbreaks a few days ago. I went back to the double dose of lysine and lactoferrin and he is back to normal after four days.
There is a link to an Italian study earlier in this thread. I based the lowered dosage on that. Our vet has suggested that our cat remain on the lysine and lactoferrin indefinitely.
He had a weepy eye, but nothing like his old outbreaks a few days ago. I went back to the double dose of lysine and lactoferrin and he is back to normal after four days.
There is a link to an Italian study earlier in this thread. I based the lowered dosage on that. Our vet has suggested that our cat remain on the lysine and lactoferrin indefinitely.
What I have been told on the FIV forum is that lysine doesn't really work for FIV It sure hasn't done much for my FIV snuffler
I did read a couple of articles by Vets that said to use Flonase so I may try that
This is one difficult thing to treat Its distressing
I did read a couple of articles by Vets that said to use Flonase so I may try that
This is one difficult thing to treat Its distressing
Have you seen this post:
http://www.thecatsite.com/t/267703/...oferrin-in-addition-to-lysine/90#post_3627361
http://www.thecatsite.com/t/267703/...oferrin-in-addition-to-lysine/90#post_3627361
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Upon recommendation of this thread, I've been giving Albus lactoferrin mixed with lysine for about three weeks now. I have the Viralys gel. I follow the dosage on there- 1/4 teaspoon- and break open a Jarrow lactoferrin capsule and mix it together in a little medicine cup, then scrape it into an oral syringe and shoot it in his mouth. He's not happy about it, but he's gotten used to it. I've been doing that twice a day. I was doing it before, sprinkled on his food, but it was hard to tell how much he was actually getting, since he's not the only cat in the house, and he doesn't always finish his food right away. It's too expensive to not be sure he's getting the full dosage! Especially when I was making the food for him so it was extra-enticing- browned ground lamb and turkey. The cat was eating better than we were 
Our vet diagnosed him with FHV a couple years ago. His main symptoms are runny eyes (mostly the left one) and congestion. He sometimes has sneezing fits and sometimes does that hacking cough thing. For about a year now, we've also been putting him in a nebulizer chamber we built him from these directions. It's mostly palliative, and I think he actually enjoys it- it's a box (automatically a favorite thing for a cat!), and it's warm because we have a heating pad under the blanket in there. He gets in there and faces the side the tube comes in. We don't medicate the vapor, it's just steam.
I'm not sure how much the lysine and lactoferrin are helping. I think the congestion is what concerns me the most. He's about 14 years old (rescue, so who knows- January will mark 10 years with him for us) and he's starting to slow down anyway. He's lost weight in the last few years; he was a healthy 14, almost 15 pounds at his heaviest. He's got a big frame, so the vet said it was ok as long as he didn't get bigger than that. He's down to about 11 pounds now, and he just feels small to me. He's getting those "old cat eyes", where the color is darkening, and they're looking a little sunken. They're not cloudy at all, though. The discharge that's coming out is brown-ish/clear and the vet doesn't seem concerned about it. His nasal discharge is clear and not too abundant. I just get "showered" when he sneezes. Once in awhile, I notice him licking his lips a more often. Too bad cats can't blow their nose. Don't think I didn't try an infant nose aspirator, but he'd have none of that!
Anyway, I don't think he can easily breathe through his nose anymore, even after the lysine/lactoferrin and the nebulizer box. When he breathes, his upper lips along the sides of his muzzle move in and out, so I think he's breathing more through his mouth. It sounds sniffly.
I'm really interested in this Polyprenyl treatment, though. I'm going to talk to my vet about it. We probably can't work it into our budget until January, though.
What else can I be doing?? He also has stomatitis, and when he had his annual checkup in August, the vet said it might be time to take a couple more teeth out, but didn't elaborate. I'm wondering if that could be bothering him- I assume that could cause a FHV flare-up, if he's in pain from that? *Sigh* I'm going to talk to my vet about doing house calls. He's getting too grumpy to take to the vet- certainly doesn't help keep his stress levels down.
Our vet diagnosed him with FHV a couple years ago. His main symptoms are runny eyes (mostly the left one) and congestion. He sometimes has sneezing fits and sometimes does that hacking cough thing. For about a year now, we've also been putting him in a nebulizer chamber we built him from these directions. It's mostly palliative, and I think he actually enjoys it- it's a box (automatically a favorite thing for a cat!), and it's warm because we have a heating pad under the blanket in there. He gets in there and faces the side the tube comes in. We don't medicate the vapor, it's just steam.
I'm not sure how much the lysine and lactoferrin are helping. I think the congestion is what concerns me the most. He's about 14 years old (rescue, so who knows- January will mark 10 years with him for us) and he's starting to slow down anyway. He's lost weight in the last few years; he was a healthy 14, almost 15 pounds at his heaviest. He's got a big frame, so the vet said it was ok as long as he didn't get bigger than that. He's down to about 11 pounds now, and he just feels small to me. He's getting those "old cat eyes", where the color is darkening, and they're looking a little sunken. They're not cloudy at all, though. The discharge that's coming out is brown-ish/clear and the vet doesn't seem concerned about it. His nasal discharge is clear and not too abundant. I just get "showered" when he sneezes.
Once in awhile, I notice him licking his lips a more often. Too bad cats can't blow their nose. Don't think I didn't try an infant nose aspirator, but he'd have none of that! Anyway, I don't think he can easily breathe through his nose anymore, even after the lysine/lactoferrin and the nebulizer box. When he breathes, his upper lips along the sides of his muzzle move in and out, so I think he's breathing more through his mouth. It sounds sniffly.
I'm really interested in this Polyprenyl treatment, though. I'm going to talk to my vet about it. We probably can't work it into our budget until January, though.
What else can I be doing?? He also has stomatitis, and when he had his annual checkup in August, the vet said it might be time to take a couple more teeth out, but didn't elaborate. I'm wondering if that could be bothering him- I assume that could cause a FHV flare-up, if he's in pain from that? *Sigh* I'm going to talk to my vet about doing house calls. He's getting too grumpy to take to the vet- certainly doesn't help keep his stress levels down.
We've had very positive results with the Polyprenyl, so if you can save up for that, that's great! The treatment is 15 days. Twice daily doses.
In the meantime, as your vet about putting Albus on Famciclovir (can be used up to 3 times a day, but most don't need it more than twice daily). And maybe try an antihistamine as well as that can sometimes offer additional relief.
In the meantime, as your vet about putting Albus on Famciclovir (can be used up to 3 times a day, but most don't need it more than twice daily). And maybe try an antihistamine as well as that can sometimes offer additional relief.
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I have 2 cats that are vomiting when given Lactoferrin. Has anyone else had this issue? I just started them on it two weeks ago. I was using smaller mg leading up to the full 250mg. At have the dose they get sick. Pleyhelp. Also I’m really not seeing any improvements. Two of my other cats seem to get well to a point and then start getting sick all over again. I’m at a loss.
I would stop the lactoferrin if it makes them throw up. I started giving my herpes girl colloidal silver about 5 months or so ago and it's helped immensely.
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Thank you. I have them on colloidal silver, lysine , taurine and a raw food diet. I was wondering if someone who is lactose intolerant just can’t handle Lactoferrin and if that’s the case with my two cats.
Are you using Jarrow brand? Intolerance is always a possibility.
To be honest, we weren't sure if our cat's nausea was from the lactoferrin, a food allergy, if he felt worse than he seemed to let on during flare ups, or what. So we'd gradually work up to a maintenance dose of lactoferrin (Jarrow brand), and he'd tolerate it for awhile. Then he'd start barfing again...lather, rinse, repeat, etc.
So we finally gave up on it, and are currently looking into other options to help to modulate his immune system.
Hope you figure out what works best for your kitty soon!
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Yes. I’m using Jarrow. I learned about it from this site. This is an amazing forum.
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Thank you cheeser. Unfortunately that’s where I’m at. I just quit giving it to them. The other cars do fine with itTo be honest, we weren't sure if our cat's nausea was from the lactoferrin, a food allergy, if he felt worse than he seemed to let on during flare ups, or what. So we'd gradually work up to a maintenance dose of lactoferrin (Jarrow brand), and he'd tolerate it for awhile. Then he'd start barfing again...lather, rinse, repeat, etc.
So we finally gave up on it, and are currently looking into other options to help to modulate his immune system.
Hope you figure out what works best for your kitty soon!
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is your kitty having herpes symptoms?
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Yes.
