Slippery Elm for possible nausea

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I really don't know if Feeby is nauseous or not, but she is so very picky about her food nowadays. For her 'breakfast', which if it is a food she likes, she will eat 3/4 of a 3oz can within a couple of hours. But, after that, she sits in front of her food bowl during the afternoon, I guess waiting for 'something different'. I have tried all kinds of different foods, as well as various toppers, and now even FortiFlora. None of it makes a significant difference.

So, my next step is slippery elm. For any of you who are using it for nausea, do you give it with food or not? I have a read a few articles that say it isn't as effective if not given at least 1/2 hour before a meal. And, others say not to give it with meds - but, no one says what meds. I have also read that giving it with food mostly works on diarrhea - which she does not have, so I don't want to 'mess with something that doesn't need to be messed with'. But, I have also read about many who have had success with curbing nausea even when given with foods.

What do you all do? Thanks.
 

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Hi
For any of you who are using it for nausea, do you give it with food or not?
I'm using this for a slightly different reason (to help with excess stomach acid), but this product from Glacier Peak Holistics, called Inflapotion, advises to combine it with water, and mix with food.
 
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That got me really interested so I googled it
Nausea & Inappetence in Cats
That was the article shared in my FortiFlora thread, courtesy of She's a witch She's a witch .
Hi. I'm using this for a slightly different reason (to help with excess stomach acid), but this product from Glacier Peak Holistics, called Inflapotion, advises to combine it with water, and mix with food.
It is my understanding that excess stomach acid can cause nausea/inappetence, and that is what I actually thought slippery elm was to help with. But, I will look into Inflapoton. How/when do you use it?

maggie101 maggie101 said it was mentioned in the article noted above. I must have missed it.
 

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That was the article shared in my FortiFlora thread, courtesy of She's a witch She's a witch .

It is my understanding that excess stomach acid can cause nausea/inappetence, and that is what I actually thought slippery elm was to help with. But, I will look into Inflapoton. How/when do you use it?

maggie101 maggie101 said it was mentioned in the article noted above. I must have missed it.
So how do you get slippery elm?
 

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Very possible I misinterpreted it but this is part of what I read:

Slippery Elm: A natural “pepto bismol” (which should never be given to cats as it contains toxic salicylates) is slippery elm bark powder. Instructions are below. Here is information on SEB by Dr. Jean Hofve:

On Pepcid (Famotidine): Some kitties experience nausea due to acid over-production, though in some kitties, especially if being transitioned to raw, the problem is not enough acid, not too much – even though we’re seeing stomach acid pukes. That’s usually a meal-timing problem, discussed here. Antacids are over-used, especially in IBD cats, and what many need in the transition is actually a few drops of raw, organic apple cider vinegar in their meals to aid digestion. On the other hand, cats with chronic kidney disease (CKD) do produce too much bile as a part of the disease, so if you have a kitty with CKD, consider trying an antacid. Tanya’s site on Chronic Kidney Disease site has the best information on this: http://www.felinecrf.org/nausea_vomiting_stomach_acid.htm

If you have an IBD kitty that is vomiting, please see The Problem with Pepcid, a 3-part series that also addresses what is fed, how it is fed, and when it is fed; and has a complete review of nausea treatments in cats. If you have an IBD kitty transitioning to raw, or recently transitioned, please refer to the article on managing acid pukes: How to Manage Acid & Bile Puking

On Cerenia: A prescription anti-emetic medication, cerenia, is generally very effective in controlling nausea. It has anti-inflammatory properties as well as some pain killing power. If you suspect your kitty is nauseous and slippery elm bark powder (“SEB”) syrup does not help control it, we suggest discussing cerenia for your cat with your vet.

My cat peaches threw up her second meal and sometimes does not want to eat at all her morning meal. Numerous tests done that show nothing
 

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How/when do you use it?
So how do you get slippery elm?
Hi!
Inflapotion has slippery elm bark as one of the ingredients, and I'm giving it per package directions to Poppycat in his morning handfeeding (which is the supplements including glucosamine that he won't eat on his own).
 

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Thanks. Expensive but I will try anything. Is there a certain brand you reccomend?
 
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Inflapotion has slippery elm bark as one of the ingredients, and I'm giving it per package directions to Poppycat in his morning handfeeding (which is the supplements including glucosamine that he won't eat on his own).
I realize you have a different thing going on with Poppycat - but this Inflapotion is given just once a day, and works throughout the entire day thereafter to help with appetite?
 
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maggie101 maggie101 - not sure Poppycat's issue is with about vomiting, although I could totally be wrong. Hopefully, Furballsmom Furballsmom will clarify for us. Throwing up before eating would seem to be a sign of acid over-production - have you tried the slippery elm? The more I read, the more it seems like it can be mixed with a bit of water and given right before a meal with something like baby food meat to help coat the digestive tract. The only thing I keep reading/hearing is to make sure it isn't administered at the same times as any prescription meds.

I haven't received my order yet, but I purchased Now Slippery Elm powder (4 oz), through Amazon. It was one of the ones listed on Tanya's web site.
Amazon.com: NOW Supplements, Slippery Elm Powder, 4-Ounce : Health & Household
 

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Inflapotion is given just once a day
My package says it can be given up to three times a day. Glacier Peak has changed the dosing and the new package says up to two times daily.
I was concerned about his vomiting and what's going on in his stomach, plus I wanted the milk thistle and didn't mind the additional marshmallow root so I went with this product. There of course could be other variables going on but his eating habits are quite good lately, and the vomiting is now specifically due to a hairball.
 

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Proviable dc has stopped Maggie's morning throw up.
The slippery elm comes tomorrow. I will try that on my morning throwupper after eating and nauseous in the morning. Excited! MAGGIE has started going diarrhea so I hope this helps

Good luck everyone with your cats! Hope they fill better
 
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So far, I found that slippery elm did nothing to help with Feeby's eating issue. Based on her pattern, it merely involves her lack of desire to eat certain foods she is growing tired of. If she doesn't like the food, she'd just rather not eat. If I feed her a food she still likes, she does a fine job of scarfing it up. It would seem to be pretty coincidental that nausea only occurs on the days she is given food that isn't one of her favorites.

The other part of the pattern I am seeing is that if her breakfast food is one she likes, she eats it well and has it gone within a couple of hours. Then, she will come back to her dish shortly thereafter looking for more food. But when I put out another food for her, that is when she just sits by her dish rather than eat it. If this is somehow tied to nausea, then it would seem the cause is from eating food, and at that point the slippery elm isn't going to do much as I keep reading it is to be given before a meal in order to coat the digestive tract before food.

Could this be more of a case of her needing something like Cerenia? Are there other alternatives to that?
 
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Could this be more of a case of her needing something like Cerenia? Are there other alternatives to that?
Anybody use Homeopet Digestive Upsets for nausea (ingredients: Veratrum Album, Argentum Nitricum, Colocynthis, Pulsatilla, Nigricans, Hypericum Perforatum, Arsenicum Album Alcohol in Purified Water)? Would this possibly be a similar treatment to Cerenia?

How about Nux Vomica?
 
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I tried 5 different cans and she would not eat til I gave her her starchy prescription and she ate. She was doing fine on healthy food at first so maybe she needs to switch between starchy and not starchy. Sorry the slippery elm is not helping her
 
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