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Hello Everyone,

I am new here, but thought I would post our little girl's situation to the community to see if anyone has every experienced something similar, or had any additional thoughts.

About a month ago, we took in a litter of 4 kittens from a client of my husband's. They own a dairy farm, and have several outdoor cats running around - not necessarily feral, but not cared for either. Inevitably, every year, there are kittens. This year, they contacted my husband because some of them seemed quite sick, and they knew that we take in rescues. They honestly wouldn't have done anything about it (just let "nature" take its course) but their young daughter threw a fit and was upset about them, so they asked for help to appease her (glad she has more compassion than her parents).

Anyway... he brought them home and they were in awful shape - URI's and eyes basically sealed shut and infected. They were about 4-6 weeks old at that time. Our vet immediately started them on amoxycillin and ofloxacin ophthalmic drops for their eyes (and de-wormed them). To our relief, they started to respond quickly and their URI's and eyes cleared up - all of them except for the smallest one (who we've named Frannie). Her eyes cleared up, but her URI did not.

Obviously, the URI was originally viral in nature, but she clearly had some sort of secondary bacterial infection given the thick yellow snotty nasal discharge she was regularly sneezing out (or choking on as she reverse-sneezed). They switched her meds to azythromycin - still no luck. Then they tried clindamycin - no improvement. The finally they gave her a convenia injection - which also did nothing. This has been over the course of a month and there has not been a single bit of improvement on any of those meds. During this time she gained a bunch of weight (she was the most emaciated when they came in), she eats like a horse, and her activity level improved to the point where she would run around and play (until she started sneezing out snot and would then stop and go lay down). Despite all of the antibiotics she's been on, she has not had one single day of diarrhea either.

Now comes the scary part - Sunday night she started having seizures. Very brief (10 seconds or less) focal seizures that started to increase in frequency. We immediately took her to our 24 hr emergency/specialty center and they gave her meds to stop the seizures and started bloodwork. Her CBC results were un-remarkable and only reflected a mildly anemic kitten which a low grade infection. She is FeLV and FIV negative as well. We are still waiting for the results of a liver bile acids test to rule out a liver shunt. The neurologist that consulted on her case didn't think an MRI would be beneficial right now due to her small size - that certain detail wouldn't be able to be seen because of it. His recommendation was to start her on Keppra, get her seizures under control, add in another antibiotic and a steroid for inflammation and see where that got us. All of this and she's only 8-10 weeks old - this poor little girl.

I have a background in neuropsychology, so I immediately started pouring over published literature, looking for anything I could find on secondary reactive seizure disorders in cats - I truly feel that this is somehow related to her URI (or whatever it is) that is progressing unchecked because no drug will touch it. I stumbled upon cryptococcus (fungal) infections that caused a lightbulb to go off - she had almost all of the symptoms, and unchecked it can progress to neurologic involvement, causing seizures and eye issues. While we were trying to get her URI under control, she had two random issues with her pupils that seemed to resolve on their own, so further diagnostics weren't pursued. Then a few weeks later, she started having these seizures. She has a URI which isn't responding to antibiotics (maybe because it's not caused by bacteria?) and I remember commenting when she came to us that her nose seemed odd compared to the others - it almost had a little "hump" on it - like an extreme roman nose. The only thing she's missing that would be a hallmark of the disease would be skin lesions, but not all cats will present with all symptoms of any given disease.

The vets that are treating her are great, but seem really reluctant to even test her for this (the primary internal medicine specialist finally agreed to at least call the lab today and find out what they would need to test for it after I nagged them for the 10th time about it). They seem to think it's rare and unlikely - but nothing else is working, and the possible diagnoses that they are chasing down seem even more unlikely given that she has very few symptoms of them. One vet even said that they would need to test her for rabies if she didn't make it... RABIES? But they think that a fungal infection in a kitten that came from a filthy (pigeon infested) farm is too remote of a possibility to test for?

Sorry that this is so long... she has been a tricky case since she came here and I am just trying to be the best advocate for her. We intend to keep her, since nobody else is likely to put up with all of her issues (or the cost of them), and the other kittens have gone on to a foster home where they are doing great (except her sister, who seems very bonded with her, we agreed to keep her as a foster along with Frannie so that she wouldn't be alone - now her sister - Lilly - is lost without her since she's been hospitalized since Sunday night). Any ideas are greatly appreciated, especially if anyone has any experience with a crypto infection.
 

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INSIST ON THIS TEST! It does sound almost text-book, doesn't it? If they will not test her, find a feline specialist and explain your concerns. MAKE NOTES TO TAKE re symptoms!

This site has a search engine to help you find a feline specialist in your area:
AAFP | American Association of Feline Practitioners

Thank you for being so caring with these little guys. I do NOT understand people like that family. At least the daughter has good sense.
 

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I don't have much to add, except to send sympathy and best wishes as you try to figure out what's ailing your kitten, and try to treat it. If the test that you want is available and you're willing to pay for it, I don't see why the vet would object to doing it unless it's somehow painful for the kitten. If nothing else, it will confirm or rule out one possible diagnosis, which is valuable.
 
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INSIST ON THIS TEST! It does sound almost text-book, doesn't it? If they will not test her, find a feline specialist and explain your concerns. MAKE NOTES TO TAKE re symptoms!

This site has a search engine to help you find a feline specialist in your area:
AAFP | American Association of Feline Practitioners

Thank you for being so caring with these little guys. I do NOT understand people like that family. At least the daughter has good sense.
Thank you... and it's getting to that point. Practically every vet has dismissed it, but I can't understand why - just because they may not see it very often, doesn't mean it doesn't happen - and NOTHING else that they are trying is working. My fear is that they will not do anything about it since they've decided to start her on anti-convulsants for the seizures and "throw in a few other meds to cover their bases". The internal medicine specialist that I spoke with today said she would check with the lab about the amount of blood required for the test - we can only take so much at a time from her since she's so little (being the runt, she's small even for her age). I will continue to pester them about it, and if they refuse, see if I can get my regular vet to do the test - or take her to a cat specialty clinic that we know the founder of. She is now retired, but still involved in an oversight capacity with the clinic.

They seem to be approaching this like its entirely neurologic and ignoring the URI that she's had for the entire time we've had her - that's failed to respond to 4 different antibiotics.

My other fear, after doing further research, is that the convenia injection she received could be causing the seizures - they started about 4 days after she got that injection - and I questioned whether that was safe for a kitten her age when they gave it to her, but they said it would be fine. Now I'm not so sure.
 
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I don't have much to add, except to send sympathy and best wishes as you try to figure out what's ailing your kitten, and try to treat it. If the test that you want is available and you're willing to pay for it, I don't see why the vet would object to doing it unless it's somehow painful for the kitten. If nothing else, it will confirm or rule out one possible diagnosis, which is valuable.
Thank you for your kind support - it helps when you feel like you're all alone, trying to advocate for this tiny kitten, and all of these specialists are looking at you like you've lost your mind. The arrogance of vets when people questions them never ceases to amaze me.
 

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All I have is love and support too but send it your way :vibes::vibes:

You really are persuing all lines possible and pushing for answers. Hopefully they do the test soon so you can get some answers.
 
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Thank you... I am waiting for an update on her after her first dose of oral anti-convulsants (Keppra) and to see if she can go home tomorrow. She's been hospitalized for 4 days now, and absolutely nothing has been accomplished (except the addition of her seizure meds). I was able to visit with her today for a little while and she was basically a little vegetable from the meds - very sleepy and out of it. It's hard to see her like that when she was happy and upbeat and eating/playing well when I took her in. I hope the side effects wear off soon and she can be a kitten again - I can't imagine she's even eating on her own at this point, she was so out of it.
I still have not received confirmation that they will test her for Crypto, so unless they tell me tonight that they will do it tomorrow, I'm pulling her out of there and taking her someplace that will. The fact that they are harping on rabies being a possibility is absurd - she doesn't have any of the normal presenting symptoms of rabies, and we got her and her litter mates when she was 4 weeks old. There hasn't even been a confirmed case of rabies in bats (our state's primary rabies vector species) in the county she came from in 2 years. There have only been 3 cases of feline rabies in our entire state in the past 16 years. Why they are even bring that up, when they won't do a test for something she has several symptoms of, is beyond me.
 

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I don’t have much to add to what everyone said except why has no one thought of culturing her nasal discharge or at least looking at it under the microscope after she failed to respond to the second antibiotic?

I agree they should just test her for cryptococcus and get it over with already. Just because it’s rare doesn’t mean it can’t happen. I only wish there was a premortem test for rabies so they could get that out of their system.

Thank you for taking care of Frannie. You are the best! Sending Frannie get better vibes and comforting thoughts to you. Keep us updated on what happens, please.
 

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OH FOR GOD'S SAKE! I just did some checking, and PIGEONS ARE A VECTOR FOR CRYPTOCOCCUS!

Cryptococcosis

Apparently not that rare, after all. Thought this paper might be ammunition for you.

PLEASE keep us posted! I'm all sorts of involved now, and I want to know how that baby is doing! Poor little Frannie. Meanwhile, I'm lighting a candle for her!

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I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for their concern and thoughts for little Frannie, and give you an update.
After my last post, they did finally relent and draw more blood to test for crypto, as well as toxoplasmosis. While they were doing so, an incredibly incompetent vet tech was bitten (while trying to restrain a one-pound kitten). This prompted a mandatory (by law) 10 day rabies observation since she was obviously too young to have been vaccinated - could this get any worse? Just wait... it does.

After she was started on the Keppra and seizure free for 24 hours, she was allowed to come home with me. We had one precious night with her and the following morning she had a break through seizure and had to go back to the Specialty/Emergency hospital. She was readmitted and was doing okay - they adjusted the Keppra dosage. They determined that if she was seizure free for another 24-48 hours they could try sending her home again. She did okay for another day, but then had another breakthrough seizure. After that seizure she was okay for a while again, but on Saturday (August 4th - when we would have been able to bring her home again) she had another breakthrough seizure that morning, followed by progressively more as the day went on. That afternoon we got a call from the ER vet on staff that she was continuing to seize, and that even IV meds were failing to control them. Her color was very poor and she was not going to come out of this - they wanted permission to euthanize. Given that she was suffering and going downhill, I gave them permission to go ahead with it right away. I didn't even get to be with her - but given her state, I couldn't make her wait for me.

The super rotten part of this is where the rabies QT is concerned. Since she died while on the 10 day observation, by LAW she had to be sent to the state lab for testing. No way for me to get her ashes back, have a private cremation, or even a necropsy to determine an official cause of death. We were left just absolutely devastated by this whole ordeal and I can't even begin to express the pain we are still in over losing her this way.

The "official" determination by the internal specialist was that she likely had the "dry" form of FIP. Her tests for everything else came back negative (including the crypto and toxo tests).
I am unwilling to accept that diagnosis, and after doing some further research into her situation and the meds she was given, I believe that the last antibiotic she was given, the convenia injection, could be her cause of death. It makes me sick to think that something I allowed her to be given was responsible for this, but after doing research here on this forum, and elsewhere, I truly believe it could be responsible. Since it was my holistic vet that gave her the injection, I guess I never even questioned it - she's a holistic vet, so I assumed she would be using the "safest" meds available. My regular vet, who is a "silver practice" with the AAFP does not use convenia in her practice - I asked her about it and she just said she considers it to have "limited use" and that it was "controversial". The specialists at the hospital she was treated at sort of brushed off the possibility that it could have been the convenia - but nobody ever seems to want to point a finger at a drug. Due to the stupid rabies hold and legally required testing, a necropsy was unable to be performed, so I will never know.

Her progressive neurologic symptoms fit with side effects seen from convenia - her seizures started 4 days after she received the injection. Her initial CBC showed slightly reduced kidney function and mild anemia - also fitting with convenia. I bet if they had redone a CBC just before she died, we would have seen those values decline even further. She was also 8 weeks old when she was given this injection - convenia has never been proven safe for kittens under 16 weeks. I just can't believe that this has happened and we're going to be torn up about it for quite a while.

Frannie and her sister were supposed to go to my holistic vet for foster care once they were healthy - to be adopted out through her clinic. We still have her sister (who is completely healthy now and over her URI) and we have decided that we will be keeping her. I don't feel comfortable with my holistic vet's level of competence any longer, and honestly, I think we've latched on to her sister even more after losing Frannie - like she's my remaining little piece of Frannie. Our other cat seems to really have taken to her too - she's 12 years old, but plays with her like a kitten again. It's pretty adorable.

I'm sorry again for the rather lengthy update, and I wish I had better news. We are really hurting over the loss of Frannie - but thank you to everyone who offered their advice or thoughts for her. We really appreciate it, and no matter how short her life was, it mattered. She was loved, tremendously, and will always hold a special place in our hearts.
 

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I am very sorry for your loss of Frannie. You were a great advocate for her. It sucks that things had to end the way the did. None of this is your fault but that does not make the pain of losing her hurt any less. You gave Frannie the one thing she wanted in life your love and a home. I know how much it hurts when you can not be there to say good bye. I have been in that position due to totally different circumstances. It is just an entirely different level of grief. Even having been through other losses the grieving process for that situation was just different. You will move through the grieving process in your own way but I just wanted to let you know I share tears with you and offer hugs during this difficult time. Frannie is now an angel watching over you and her sister. Frannie knows you love her and I have no doubt that she felt your love even though you could not be present physically. A piece of your love has gone with her to the rainbow bridge and a piece of her love remains in your heart through the happy memories of the time you spent together. Love never dies it just changes form but it is always present. Rest in peace Frannie your love will always remain with your family.
 
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Thank you catlover... it has been a very trying time for us emotionally, and thinking that this had something to do with a medication that we consented to her receiving just makes it that much harder to reconcile. I know it will take time - thank you for your kind words.
 

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Thank you catlover... it has been a very trying time for us emotionally, and thinking that this had something to do with a medication that we consented to her receiving just makes it that much harder to reconcile. I know it will take time - thank you for your kind words.
You are welcome. This is a great place to get support and ask questions. No matter how much it hurts right now you did not do anything wrong. You followed the advice of a medical professional. Sure there are things you know now that you did not know then but you can use what you have learned for this painful situation to make your self a better medical advocate for your babies. I could have very easily been where you are now with one of my adult cats. Thankfully things did not turn out that way. A hard lesson I learned from my experience is to follow your gut instincts if something does not feel right then get a 2nd opinion. It is hard to see this in the heat of a medical crisis when you are going through it. I did not even see it the only reason my cat is alive today is because his former foster mommy and my good friend forced me to get a 2nd opinion from her vet and that is what saved my cats life.
 

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I am so sorry about Frannie and about the whole situation. I don’t think you should blame yourself. As they say, hindsight is always 20/20. I’ll light a candle for her this evening.
 

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I am so, so very sorry for your loss of adorable Frannie. You made the right decision, but having nothing of her is just horrendous. They might at least have offered to clip some fur for you! My heart with yours.
 

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Oh I'm so incredibly sorry for all you've gone through with Frannie. Threads like this are closed after a loss out of respect. Please consider starting a tribute thread in out "Crossing the Bridge" forum.

Rest in peace, Frannie. :rbheart:
 
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