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Multi pet household and new kittens brought in have ringworm any help would be appreciated
I have seven cats that are in treatment for ringworm and my vet does not do pcr tests!
 
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I remember those days well when I had the same problem! I kept the kittens isolated, and they were treated, but I got it and somehow gave it to a few of my other cats. I was told the best thing was to change clothes after I visited the kittens and wash my hands really well, but that didn't work as well. If it's any comfort to you, the adult cats did well with a few treatments. It's a hassle, but we got through it and you will too!
 
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Thank you for answering. I have been cleaning and treating with oral and doing medicated baths twice weekly.
My vet doesn’t do PCR test so I am concerned about letting them out of quarantine when the month is over.
 

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Multi pet household and new kittens brought in have ringworm any help would be appreciated I have seven cats that are in treatment for ringworm and my vet does not do pcr tests!
If your vet doesn't do PCR testing, what method was used in the first place to diagnose the ringworm? Woods lamp, microscopic exam of hair/skin, fungal culture via DTM (skin scrapings via a toothbrush)? None of these are considered the same as the PCR test, so it would seem your vet could use at least one of these techniques, and probably did when the ringworm was first diagnosed.

You might also want to ask your vet if they deal with a clinic that they could send a sample to and have them perform the PCR test. Lots of vets send samples to nearby labs for testing when they don't have the equipment. Worth asking about anyway.
 
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I had a ringworm lesion show up on myself after a month of having new kittens. Then I noticed a lesion on my kittens head! Brought my kitten in and was told not to worry about it. Given a topical treatment and a month later I purchased a woods lamp and found spores glowing green on my other cats! It spread rapidly. Everyone is now quarantined and being treated orally and anti fungal baths twice weekly. My concern is reinfection. I have thrown away area rugs and my furniture. Deep cleaning my entire house and using rescue with a sprayer wherever I can!
 

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I have never had to deal with ringworm (thankfully), so I am one of this site's members who can be of absolutely no help in determining how to prevent reinfection. The good thing is that this version of ringworm seems to be detectable with the woods lamp, so repeatedly checking them will at least tell you how things are progressing.

Here is a TCS article about ringworm, and I also did a search on this site for other members' posts related to ringworm, and there are quite a number of them - maybe you can search through them looking for some additional tips/clues? Both links are below.
How to Deal with Ringworm in Cats [Inc. the Housecleaning Regime] – TheCatSite Articles
Search Results for Query: ringworm | TheCatSite
 

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Hello. i have three cats (between 10 months - 1 years old) dealing with ringworm since September 2021 (been 7 months already!!). it is so stressful. probably not the best person to give advice since my cat ringworm infections has been on and off for months, they would get a negative culture/ pcr and then a positive one after 1-2 months. they currently just came back positive for their third infection of ringworm...

for the ringworm tests, it's best for culture to be done over pcr. for example my cats came back negative for the pcr but positive for the culture.

i have two long fur cats (siberian and ragdoll) and one short hair (russian blue). originally didn't plan on shaving them, but since this is the third reinfection, i will most likely shave them because three times is enough. hopefully you're able to handle it better than i am. i couldn't really handle it perfectly just because i am renting my apartment with roommates and there are limited option to where i can isolate them and what could be done. for example i had to isolate them in my bedroom instead of my bathroom. my bedroom wasn't most ideal just because of the central air and the mattress on the floor that i couldn't remove because of certain reasons.

i originally did lime sulfur dip and chlorhexadine ketoconzale shampoo baths with the cats but it got too much by the second reinfection. also because my cats wasn't shaved then so the medication works best when it directly touch the skin rather than just the fur. my vets told me that systematic treatment (oral med) is enough to treat the ringworm. but since this is their third reinfection i will probably start the medicated baths again. 1-2 sulfur dip weekly is enough. after the sulfur dip, youre suppose to leave them to air dry but that is not realistic because the cats get too cold honestly. so i would lightly pat them dry a bit with a towel and put a heater in the bathroom. after you sulfur dip them, apply the chlorhexadine ketoconalze shampoo and leave it on for at least 5-10 minutes before rinsing.

to clean floors i use this: it was recommend by my vet (but leaves a grime)
Diversey - Oxivir Five 16 Concentrate One-Step Disinfectant Cleaner - 1.4 Liter SmartDose Bottle

for vaccum i use this: Miele Complete C3
expensive, but honestly it works so well! it traps everything into air sealed bag. i only changed my bag after 2 months? when they came back negative for ringworm. (unfortunately it is back though, probably because of the central air or the mattress that i couldn't remove)
for laundry: dry with high heat and wash with warm -> hot water.

i would vacuum their room daily and disinfecting weekly. i threw away everything that couldn't be washed (carpet cat tower and some toys) and replaced it with plastic or wood.

pretty much isolate them fast. treat them fast. clean their room as soon as you can. start all of their meds together.
GOOD LUCK! ringworm is a nightmare.
 
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Thank you for sharing your ringworm crisis! That is what this has been. My vet Was reluctant to give oral meds and had said it was not necessary to isolate? Kitten ran around my house for another month infecting everything and a couple of my other cats and now two yorkies are being treated! I have done fungal baths twice weekly for a month now I am bathing once weekly for the cats and twice weekly for my dogs. I purchased large dog kennels for my cats and are being quarantined for over a month. Dogs are penned up together and are now finally getting oral meds also. I had to insist or was going to another vet. Cats are bathed once weekly now and room and crates disinfected twice weekly. Dogs area disinfected twice weekly. I purchased the same vacuum also. Threw away my others once I used them for ringworm and realized it is not effective. The internet and people sharing has been my greatest resource. I use accel Rescue product. It is effective in killing the spores where the animals have been. I purchased a flashlight type woods lamp on Amazon. Amazing the spores do glow apple green. Cats still have them sitting on the fur when I checked yesterday. Bathing and hoping at some point I can let them out again. Sev3n cats and three dogs will stay isolated and bathed with ongoing decontamination for as long as needed🙁 My vet does not do testing for ringworm. I was looking into using the fungassy test kit from revival pet site. Not sure yet. So afraid to let them back out until I’m sure. I threw out cat towers, carpets and even my living room furniture. It is crazy how the spores survive and land back onto the fur!
 

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so you’ve kept all of your cats in a large dog kennel for over a month so far? Are they in a room by themselves still or are they placed in a room that is oftenly used? (Bedroom, living room) have their fur been flying everywhere still?

I think it’s definitely important to isolate just because it minimizes the amount of cleaning you need to do and the exposure. During my cats first infection of ringworm, I didn’t know and they ran amok. I ended up developing 40-50 lesions on myself. Since I started isolating them, I have only grown 5 lesions max (from the second reinfection) and none from the third reinfection yet.

also how have you been bringing the pets to the vet since the ringworm infection started? In what carrier I mean. I would bring my cats in a certain carrier that I have used for them since the beginning of the ringworm. after the vet visit, I would Lysol spray the carrier since my cats were positive in it. Honestly, I prefer a carrier that is machine washable just because three infections of ringworm is more than enough.

I also have a wood lamps from Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075GWKN83/?tag=thecatsite


But honestly I doubt how much it works now because my cats culture that was done on 4/4 came back positive on 4/23. And the whole time after 4/4 I used the wood lamp and inspect my cats fur for any green. Would try searching on their skin as well. Not a single green popped up until 4/21. And those green that I found were little particles that I could pick up and throw away (not ringworm I would assume) and they went away after I bathe the cats with no medicated shampoo.

now when I use the wood lamp on my cats ear (he lost fur on ear because of ringworm ), it does not light up. He even has three bald patches on the e

on my other cats with previous/old open lesions, the wood lamp did light up though.

what have you been using to clean the soft nonporous object though? Some of mines I cannot throw away. I’ve been using Lysol disinfecting spray but I’m not even sure that works because I heard that only Lysol IC can kill ringworm.

does other vets around you test for ringworm?
also even if you’re able to test them for ringworm and it comes back negative. Don’t let them out yet. Cuz there’s a possible chance of reinfection. Wait a month or two and test them again.

my cats tested negative for ringworm in February. I kept them Quarantined for two months just to monitor for reinfection. So they were all stuck in that same room for two months and they got it again in April. It’s definitely an environmental factor in my case.

if you manage to beat ringworm, please do let me know how you did it.
Seven cat and three dogs is a lot.
I’m already on my breaking point with three cats only.
Hoping that we both get over it soon!
 

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also I don’t recommend letting them out without a negative culture.
after my cats finished their treatment for their FIRST infection of ringworm. All of them grew back fur. Even one who was shaved down by his previous owner. He was full of fur. Yet 1.5 months later, I discovered they had ringworm again. They were all still full of fur. One cat just had a open lesion. That’s how’s I noticed the ringworm came back. But the cat that was full of fur, I had to shave him down just to find a lesion.

I didn’t bring them back to the vet to get them tested because I was trying to save money and because I assumed that if the cats grow fur that means ringworm is over. It does not.
 
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Yes I agree about the testing! The problem I’m having is the vet I have been going to for a few years does not do testing! To start over agin with another vet would be expensive and I have already spent so much. No longer have living room furniture due to ringworm. I have done my best to decontaminate my house and am still working on it. So I have been researching the fungassy test I could do myself. I would purchase an incubator for correct temp but if someone else has tried this I would appreciate any input. The spores are still on my cats fur. It might be minimal but they are there. Cats are locked up and so are my yorkies. This has been so upsetting and after seeing the tiny spores still landing on my cats fur I am understanding the diligence needed in decontaminating the environment not only the pets.
I had a professional come in and electrostatic spraying was done to kill the spores I Cannot see but they do persist in my cat room from the cats fur. Minimal but still there. I am going to use a fogger with rescue disinfectant after I figure testing! Thank you for your reply and input. I am learning as I go with really no help from my vet.
 

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wow i have never heard of electrostatic spraying before. do you feel that has worked?
havent heard of people using incubator yet.

never heard of fogger and rescue disinfectant as well. i just looked up the disinfect and it looks pretty solid. i just bought some myself.
my only wish in life right now is to be free from ringworm :/

did your vet say anything about shaving? i really do want to shave them, but i feel bad and also because of the cons of spreading the infection more on the cat and risk of it floating in the air.
it would make me feel better if i get to see how many lesions they have and that i could actually put topical med directly on the lesions.

which antifungal baths have you been using on ur pets? just lime sulfur?

i hope the fungassy test works! it sounds like a good plan for your vet/testing situation.
 
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I have used Miconahex+Triz shampoo and they have a spray I use on the off days for my yorkies and will probably start using on the cats. I was going to use lime sulphur dip and my vet advised against. Said it wasn’t necessary. Antifungal baths twice weekly for a month and then once a week. How long and I truly don’t know because the spores are still around. I am watching you tube videos on how to take a fungal culture. Three cats had lesions and two yorkies by the time I stopped listening to the vet and her not to worry advice. The other cats were treated with intrafungal oral meds and anti fungal baths. So much work and yet last I checked green spores with the little woods lamp. Unbelievable how persistent ringworm is. Yorkies just started treatment with oral meds because I insisted. They have been getting twice weekly baths also for the last month. Now finally oral meds. It feels like it is never going to end. Chewy vets have been the most helpful with finding the right product and offering careful suggestions!
 
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I am not sure of the electrostatic spraying? They use it in gyms for ringworm and I am desperate. Having a house to clean for ringworm is so difficult. I will use a fogger with rescue spray myself when I feel the time is right. Animals need to be cleared for ringworm and then I will do the environment with the fogger as an extra precaution if I ever get to that point! Hard surfaces are easier than anything soft. Washed everything I could and bagged it up. If not I tossed it. I have used a lot of Rubbermaid bins for storing odds and ends. Want to be able to clean the environment easy as possible. I work two jobs and I am single so it is a challenge to say the least. Animals have to be outside when the spraying is going on. Keep me posted on how you are doing. I used scissors to trim yorkies and cats. Disinfected the scissors each time. Clippers can create skin abrasions that are tiny and possibly another lesion would begin. My vet has not given much help everything I am doing has been through internet and postings and articles. Just trying to do an excellent job so my pets can be free again!
 

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i cant imagine having a house to clean by yourself :( youre doing so well by yourself! and doing so much for them!
im already having such a hard time cleaning my apartment. its already such a huge mental breakdown, but im going to try again.

have you been able to see all the lesions that your pets have?

for my cats treatment,
  • i will most likely continue the itrafungol. my vet previously suggested increasing the frequency of the medication. it would normally be given every other week, but she suggested that in repeated infections, it will be given every week without a break. hopefully, i am able to start my cat on that treatment.
  • if i do manage to shave them, i plan on using miconazole lotion daily directly on the cats lesions since ill be able to see ALL of it.
  • i might lime sulfur dip either once or twice a week. I plan on putting a cone on them until it air days. i tried lime sulfur dipping them during their first infection of ringworm, but honestly, not sure how much that helped because they were fulllll of fur. whether the lime sulfur touched the lesions, i'm not sure.
I do agree that shaving might cause more infection, but i feel like it will spread less to the environment because the ringworm gets around when the cats fur drops everywhere. my cats have been getting reinfected because the environment still has spores. i literally tried everything, including swiffering the walls. but there were some stuff i couldn't control and they shed wayyyy too much. also because cats jumps everywhere they could touch ANYTHING.

i read somewhere online that somebody with maybe two Sphynx cats had ringworm and it was noticed pretty easily of course because that breed doesn't have fur. that person was also able to successfully get rid of the ringworm within 2-4 weeks of treatment without isolation!!! i'm so envious!! :(

do keep me posted on how you're doing as well. wishing the best for the both of us.
dont give up! it is verryyy hard, but it'll get better eventually.
usually when i feel sadden by the cat's repeated ringworm infection, it makes me feel better when i clean because i'm more productive and i try to reach out to my family and friends for mental support.
 
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Good morning
Did you do antifungal baths ? Just wondering because I have been consistent in them but spires are still visible with the woods lamp flashlight I purchased! Not a lot but still there. Today is my disinfecting their room and dog kennels they are in.
I am going to use the Miconohex and trx spray before I put them in the cat carriers. I start fresh again but now bathe on Saturday only. I could only see lesions on 3 cats. Spores are on the fur of all but no lesions. Trying yo kill off the spores now. Yorkers being bathed twice weekly and oral meds. So concerned I won’t ever be rid of it! I use a gallon sprayer with rescue when cleaning their room and cover crates and walls. Saw a video on you tube and said she was the crazy cat lady! Disinfecting after ringworm. Not so crazy after all! Even if the lesions are clear what about the floating spores? I cannot bleach my entire house just my bathroom and as you have said cats go everywhere. I also use the rescue spray on the carriers each time! Keep in touch and best to you and your kitties!
 

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didnt get to start the antifungal baths yet. i plan on getting shaved first. still trying to set a groomer appt or find a place that is affordable.

when i brought the cat for their fungal culture in February, i used the woods lamp on my cat's open lesion and there would still be some green on the lesion and the fur (they had little green dots scattered on their body), but not as much compared to before they started their treatment. i assumed that meant that my cat's lesion was still active, but the vet cultured that same exact lesion and it came back negative! she explained to me that some green is okay because the wood lamp isn't too accurate and it picks up everything. what matters is how the green is assorted on the lesion and fur.

Even though their February culture all came back negative, it took a while still for the green to disappear. Eventually by March, all of their green disappeared!
Unfortunately, the greens reappeared again a few days ago. Pretty much, use the wood lamp as reference, but not diagnostic. it is not the most accurate thing out there. Even my cat's brand new litter would light up apple green.

disinfecting after ringworm is definitely not crazy at all!
I feel like even though the spores does "float", it will eventually land and will hopefully be disinfected. Also, i believe the goal is to eradicate most of the spores so that they won't be threatening, not all. hopefully we can achieve that soon :)
 

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also my two long fur cats right now, i see green on them but no obvious signs of lesions yet :( not being able to see their lesions frustrates me.
only my short hair cat lost some fur on his ears.
 
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Definitely more difficult with the long hair. I have three Maine Coons and the fur is long. My shorthair cats do have a thick coat as well. Just disinfected their room and dog crates I have them in and the hair is endless!
The woods lamp does glow green on other things. Having your cats shaved down may be what you need to to do.. I have clippers but do not want to spread fungus. Purchased disinfectant spray for clippers and liquid also. Watched you tube videos and realized I needed a fungicide cleaner. Purchased that and still not sure if cleaning after use Is sufficient. It would be helpful not to have the hair around. I ordered my Fungassy test and chlorhexadrine cleaner as well. It’s great you have a knowledgeable vet and giving the correct information. Do you think the cats became reinfected through the environment or lesions not cleared completely?
 

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My cats reinfection are definitely from the environment because they would test negative, the green would disappear, and fur will grow back, but 1-2 months later, the ringworm cycle starts all over again!

Maine coons are definitely one of the harder cats to deal with ringworm with. Imagine if we had Sphinx cats? Cleaning would be easier!

I usually see multiple doctors in the vet clinic actually, They usually are randomly assigned to me and I don’t really pick a specific one to see. It’s nice to hear different opinions though.

my vet also told me that unfortunately, since this will be the third time my cats will be on itrafungol that we won’t be able to increase the frequency of the medication. Usually itrafungol is given every other week with a break in between. She previously suggested giving itrafungol every week instead (apparently some shelter cats would use this method), but since the medication is toxic to the liver, it wouldn’t be best for my cats who will be on the med three times already…

I found a groomer that is willing to shave my cats, thankfully. Most of them don’t want to touch cats with ringworm. I just need to set appointment now and then I could put lime sulfur and other topical medication directly on the lesions. I would also get to actually see if they get reinfected again. Also that would be less environmental cleaning on my end since there will be little to none fur-spores flying around hitchhiking on clothes. if I touch my ragdoll even a little bit, I get a good amount of her fur on my clothes already 😭😭 I plan on shaving them in a place that isn’t my permanent domicile.

I didn’t realize some disinfectant has to be diluted PERFECTLY in order for it to work. I thought maybe a litttleeeee bit more water or disinfectant wouldn’t matter. But a litttleeee bit more or litttleeee bit less makes a difference!! !

I moved to a new apartment as well, so this apartment should be cleannnnn of ringworm. I have a spare completely EMPTY room that I plan on isolating my cats in. After my cats are shaved, I plan on putting my cats in a very large dog kernel in an that completely empty room just because my cats likes to jump off the walls sometimes (exaggeration), but deep cleaning the walls is a bit too much. Also because I don’t want them messing with the vents and the built in closets and getting spores in them somehow….

Previously I would isolate my cats in my bedroom and then when I would disinfect my bedroom, I would move the cats to the bathroom until the disinfect in
dries. But me doing that was honestly so tiring to clean because I would have to disinfect the bathroom afterwards…

And if they are shaved, I can’t imagine the ringworm getting out of that room. I plan on lime sulfur dipping them in a small wash tub in that room they will be isolating in. So everything will be done in that empty room. I Will not be bringing them to my bathroom.

The con, they will prob get more lesions after being shaved, but since their whole body will be lime sulfur dipped, in addition to miconazole lotions directly on the lesions AND the systematic oral medication, I can’t imagine the new lesions not get treated.
 
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