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Can someone explain to me what is this foam (type of vomit) type response after giving liquid medicine and how to prevent it. He was very distressed and this has not happened before...
Is it the gabapentin?
A lot of cats foam at the mouth with that liquid medicine..
Did he throw up or just get foamy
 
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Is it the gabapentin?
A lot of cats foam at the mouth with that liquid medicine..
Did he throw up or just get foamy
No, this is omeprasole...
We have chicken flavoured gabapentin...

Just got foamy...
 
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No, liquid form. He is very bad with tablets, therefore we giving him liquid to make sure that he definitely takes it

This is his first day of stopping buprenorphine after taking for two weeks, so maybe he is a bit unbalanced. Was a bit lethargic today...
 
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No, liquid form. He is very bad with tablets, therefore we giving him liquid to make sure that he definitely takes it
I don't know if omeprasole is a bitter medication. If so that could cause the foaming at the mouth.
Cats that get the regular liquid gabapentin tend to foam at the mouth for a while after taking the medication. That's why I asked if it was that one.. but I don't know the taste of the omeprasole..


The Bitter Taste Of Medications
Obviously, oral medications rarely taste good which is why it's a pain to make your fluffy friend accept them. In the case the pet ingests the drugs then they only do that with great reluctance. But regardless of what cats think, the unpleasant taste of the medicines usually causes their mouth to foam up. That is purely a natural reaction of the felines when they consume bitter-tasting substances. As a result, you don't have to do anything in particular besides giving your cat some treats to get rid of the bitter taste.

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I don't know if omeprasole is a bitter medication. If so that could cause the foaming at the mouth.
Cats that get the regular liquid gabapentin tend to foam at the mouth for a while after taking the medication. That's why I asked if it was that one.. but I don't know the taste of the omeprasole..
It seems that omeprasole has a much worse taste, it smells awful..
 
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It could very well be that. How long has he been on it?
Around two weeks...

My vet wants him to be on it for a longer time, as a reflux type contributes to his oral lesions and ulceration...
Since on omeprasole, he restarted eating better...

He is also on metacam long term, but in the morning
 
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I don't know if omeprasole is a bitter medication. If so that could cause the foaming at the mouth.
Cats that get the regular liquid gabapentin tend to foam at the mouth for a while after taking the medication. That's why I asked if it was that one.. but I don't know the taste of the omeprasole..

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The Bitter Taste Of Medications
Obviously, oral medications rarely taste good which is why it's a pain to make your fluffy friend accept them. In the case the pet ingests the drugs then they only do that with great reluctance. But regardless of what cats think, the unpleasant taste of the medicines usually causes their mouth to foam up. That is purely a natural reaction of the felines when they consume bitter-tasting substances. As a result, you don't have to do anything in particular besides giving your cat some treats to get rid of the bitter taste.

This is from the link
I gave him a treat and he was ok straight after...
It was a bit distressing...
 

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Around two weeks...

My vet wants him to be on it for a longer time, as a reflux type contributes to his oral lesions and ulceration...
Since on omeprasole, he restarted eating better...

He is also on metacam long term, but in the morning
And this is the first time he has foamed up?
I would just call the vet and let them know that since he has been on it this is the first time that happened. I'm thinking it is the taste but don't know why it has only happened this time.. the treat making it stop is good though so I'm leaning towards the taste of it.. but if it were me I would probably still call the vet and see what they say.

It's great he is eating better. I have been worried about your little guy.
 
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And this is the first time he has foamed up?
I would just call the vet and let them know that since he has been on it this is the first time that happened. I'm thinking it is the taste but don't know why it has only happened this time.. the treat making it stop is good though so I'm leaning towards the taste of it.. but if it were me I would probably still call the vet and see what they say.

It's great he is eating better. I have been worried about your little guy.
I did write email to her. I think this is about the taste of omeprasole...but at the same time I think it is helping him...

He is a bit low today and I wonder if he may be going through some withdrawal from buprenorphine...
Also, it is extremely hot, it has an additional impact on him...
 

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I did write email to her. I think this is about the taste of omeprasole...but at the same time I think it is helping him...

He is a bit low today and I wonder if he may be going through some withdrawal from buprenorphine...
Also, it is extremely hot, it has an additional impact on him...
How long was he on the buprenorphine? And how long has he been without it now?
 
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How long was he on the buprenorphine? And how long has he been without it now?
It is his second day without it...he was on it for two weeks...

Just spoke to the vet and she said that I could get back to a lower dose if necessary...
Also, I need to observe if his lethargic response may relate to hiding some pain ..
He is generally very sensitive to meds and perhaps needs tapering rather than stopping. He was only on 0.15ml of it

With omeprasole, she said it is most likely response to the taste of it, they ordered for me a flavoured form of it...
She suggested making a chicken stock from the chicken cube and dilute omeprasole in it as this will take the taste away...

She also suggested making an omeprasole ball from a crushed tablet and bit of butter and freeze it... unfortunately I do not have a freezer! But this is a great idea...
 

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It is his second day without it...he was on it for two weeks...

Just spoke to the vet and she said that I could get back to a lower dose if necessary...
Also, I need to observe if his lethargic response may relate to hiding some pain ..
He is generally very sensitive to meds and perhaps needs tapering rather than stopping. He was only on 0.15ml of it

With omeprasole, she said it is most likely response to the taste of it, they ordered for me a flavoured form of it...
She suggested making a chicken stock from the chicken cube and dilute omeprasole in it as this will take the taste away...

She also suggested making an omeprasole ball from a crushed tablet and bit of butter and freeze it... unfortunately I do not have a freezer! But this is a great idea...
That is a great idea I'll have to remember that. Thank you for sharing.

Yea he may need tapered off of the buprenorphine. I'm glad that the vet also thought it was due to the taste and they are going to get it compounded for you.

So are they going to write a script for a lower dose of the buprenorphine for him?
 
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That is a great idea I'll have to remember that. Thank you for sharing.

Yea he may need tapered off of the buprenorphine. I'm glad that the vet also thought it was due to the taste and they are going to get it compounded for you.

So are they going to write a script for a lower dose of the buprenorphine for him?
Buprenorphine is in a liquid form, so it is just a matter of getting less of it...also she suggested a possibility of once a day for a moment...

There are a quite few factors here that are difficult to judge properly, as additionally it is extremely hot, so he may be responding to the heat as well...And we still do not know if he may be back in pain...
She also said that I may have accidentally touched a sore area of his mouth with the syringe which could have triggered foaming as a response ..

I will give him buprenorphine in evening, instead of 0.15, I will give him 0.10ml...
This may also be helpful with omeprasole (in one hour after this) as it makes him calmer...
 

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Buprenorphine is in a liquid form, so it is just a matter of getting less of it...also she suggested a possibility of once a day for a moment...

There are a quite few factors here that are difficult to judge properly, as additionally it is extremely hot, so he may be responding to the heat as well...And we still do not know if he may be back in pain...
She also said that I may have accidentally touched a sore area of his mouth with the syringe which could have triggered foaming as a response ..

I will give him buprenorphine in evening, instead of 0.15, I will give him 0.10ml...
This may also be helpful with omeprasole (in one hour after this) as it makes him calmer...
Oh OK I didn't know you still had some. I figured he was on it until the script was out. That is good.
Please keep us posted.
 
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I have decided to do a tapper, as he was on 0.15ml, I gave him today evening 0.1ml, and will continue for three days, then I will give smaller dose and then stop...
 

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I have decided to do a tapper, as he was on 0.15ml, I gave him today evening 0.1ml, and will continue for three days, then I will give smaller dose and then stop...
That sounds like a good plan. Keep us posted on his progress with the tapering of his medicine. Has he had his omeprasole today yet?
 
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