Pit Bull & Cats?

[chichismom]

try these 2 if you have'nt already-It's worth a shot:

www.pbrc.net

www.pitprintsrescue.com

I also ran across a pit bull forum that seemed very helpful, but you have to join first I have'nt done so yet, but here it is:

www.game-dog.com

Seems like alot of understanding, responsible owners on there! I also seen prople looking for pits, so maybe you will have some luck there

 

[gemini52880]

thank you so much, i tried the secon pit prints really wanted her to go there
but they are full, i will try the first one :-D

Thanks
Nicole

 

[chichismom]

the forum one looks cool too. Seems like a good bunch of dog people like us TCSers LOL I am planning on joining the forum- like I said, just from browsing on there, I seen a couple of people looking to adopt a pit- most did'nt have the $ for one from a breeder, they are like 500 bucks!!! They also might have more suggestions for you....

 

[wellingtoncats]

She's very sweet. I hope you can find her a great home.

 

[mybabies]

Originally Posted by vanillasugar

MyBabies, I have to jump in here because what you've posted is misinformation that is perpetuation a negative image of these dogs. They're having enough of a time as it is without people saying things that have no basis in fact.

A dog as unpredictable as you've described is one with severe problems, either a genetic disorder or brain problems.

"Most people who say that a dog is "unpredictable" simply don't understand dogs. They believe the stories of people who were "just petting the dog, and suddenly it went crazy and bit me!" In the overwhelming majority of these cases, the victim simply doesn't understand or has missed canine warning signs. " (http://www.happypitbull.com/myths.htm#7)

These dogs originated for dog fighting and bull baiting, yes. Many pit bulls are agressive to other animals if not socialised and raised properly. The one thing they are NOT by nature, is agressive to people.......................

I have heard that too, but the woman who said this has raised dogs and she has a freind with a Standard Poodle whose mom was killed by a loose Pit. Mom was out with the puppies and Pit went for her. Lady also has another friend whose Shepard was killed by a Pit who got loose. THAT is why she says they are dogs who are waiting for their trigger to be pulled.

 

[mybabies]

Originally Posted by chichismom

I could'nt disagree more! This is why they are banning these beautiful dogs, because people belive this mess! In all fairness all dog breeds were breed at some point to do a specific task- hunting,retrieving etc... just because a dog is a "hunter" does not mean they will hunt anything! It is the careless owners not taking the time, love and devotion to learn proper training and behavior for these puppers. The reason this lady says these bad things about pits is because she was breeding them. They were not brought up to be loving housepets they were brought up to breed. And I am sure they were kept outside in a run, with little human contact, and breed again, and again, and again. I would have an attitude too! Being a pit bull owner I am furious about people discriminating against these gentle giants, it is not the dogs it is the people!

This woman has bred many different dogs, like Shephards and all size of Poodles. She right now has a Standard Poodle sevice dog.

She knows dogs and she thinks the Pits are dangerous.

 

[sharky]

Pits raised right are only dangerous in the fact that there bite is double the strenth of a german shepard , std poodle or like dog ...

I deal with dogs every weekend and Pits are usually the nicest... Meanest little Poodles... I have also had pits with cats and most that are rasied with are a okay ...

 

[katl8e]

My Pearl is part pit and she is wonderful with cats and kids. She and Rowdy have a supervised romp, every evening. They roll, wrestle and chew on each other and nobody gets hurt.

Rowdy was 10 weeks old, when we got her and immediately decided that dogs are large interactive cat toys. Pearl was about 3 months old and she just wanted to play with anybody - human, canine or feline.

If the dog is properly raised and trained, he/she will be fine with cats, regardless of the breed.

 

[pandybear]

Originally Posted by Rolenta

I agree with the above post, even if the dog isn't aggresive, dogs tend to try to play with cats the way they would play with other dogs - which of course, cats find highly offensive to their sensibilities. Be cautious at first, but after a while, you'll just have to let the dog get a swat in the face before he realizes he has to leave the kitties alone.

that is so true, anassa plays with pandy like she's another dog instead of a tiny kitty, pandy swats her when she's had enough though or gets onto the 6th floor of the paws mansion to have time alone.

as for pitbulls, i don't know anything about them, therfore i can't say stuff about their personality, however, they are just a dog like any other dog and sometimes dogs get cranky, most of the time it isn't their fault, it's people's fault for not doing something right.

anassa is a pure English pointer cross Irish wolfhound....both hunting dogs, one hunts birds and the other wolves yet she is the sweetest dog with the cats and i leave her alone with them all the time, sometimes she will point at pandy and pandy knows what that means now, if nass gets too close pandy will rise onto her back legs and swat nass in the face...pandy has actually started to lift her paw when she see's a moth or something interesting, it's almost as if she's pointing, like anassa

bonnie doesn't like nass at all but they can co-exist if they stay out of each others way, generally, they are all good together and i don't worry about it.


felicia

 

[chichismom]

Originally Posted by MyBabies

This woman has bred many different dogs, like Shephards and all size of Poodles. She right now has a Standard Poodle sevice dog.

She knows dogs and she thinks the Pits are dangerous.

OK, this Lady is entitled to her own opinion, but she is spreading these horribly untrue things about these gentle giants around to other people. I agree some are dangerous, but they are not family dogs, they were raised for sport or to breed. If she knows dogs than she knows they all can be dangerous, not just the pit bulls.

 

[chichismom]

Gemini,

How are things going with the puppy? Have you had any luck?

 

[gemini52880]

Hey everyone,

Well my roommate just called me to tell me that a friend of hers has someone that is interested in the Brandy (the pit), and they will come to our house to look at her. I don't know the person at all, but it is a single male, which has me worried. Not that I have anything against single men owning the dog. I just want to make sure the person is not looking for a fighting dog, and or a mean dog so to say. I expressed that to my roommate, she said she doesnt think the guy is like that at all, and she said that brandy is to old to make mean anyways (6 to 8 months). Well what if he does to try and make her a fight dog and she doesnt, i wonder if he will just put her back on the streets or something. But my mind is overworking i guess lol, i'm always worried that she will go to the wrong person. But I prayed over her and ask God to be with her and to protect her and that she may have a good family. So I will leave it in his hands.

And also, if that guy doesn't want brandy, My roommate said her friend's mother will take her. So she has somewhere to go. So every just pray for good vibes for brandy and that she finds a lovely home. Thanks to everyone support for the last past couple of days I have been worrying my head off and you guys gave me alot of support, thank you so much.

Love ya'll
Nicole

 

[chichismom]

That is great Nicole! I hope Brandy enjoys her new family! Good luck & let us know what happens

 

[valanhb]

Nichole, you'll know in your heart if the guy isn't the right person for Brandy. If he has less than good intentions for her, you'll pick up on and so will Brandy.

That said, I have known a lot of single guys who absolutely dote on their dogs. I knew one in college who had a little Rottie and it was so touching how he treated her. In the hot summer, he would stop the car to make sure she could get a drink, and even shared water bottles with her!

 

[jcat]

My advice would be to have this guy spend some time with her under your observation, if possible during at least 2 - 3 visits. Being a single male doesn't necessarily mean that he's looking for a "fighting dog". Make sure he's "comfortable" with her, and watch how she reacts to his voice and body language. A pit bull shouldn't be in the hands of a person who isn't self-assertive. If he impresses you as shy and retiring, especially with the dog, I'd say hands off. If she reacts positively to his offers of play, and shows a willingness to listen to him, he'll probably make out okay with her.

 

[tuxedokitties]

I'm glad you have good prospects for her!

Another thing you could do is a bit of a background check on the guy - when he comes to meet Brandy, ask him casually about previous pets he's had - you can often tell a lot about someone's feelings for their pets by how they answer that question.

 

[KitEKats4Eva!]

Originally Posted by chichismom

OK, this Lady is entitled to her own opinion, but she is spreading these horribly untrue things about these gentle giants around to other people. I agree some are dangerous, but they are not family dogs, they were raised for sport or to breed. If she knows dogs than she knows they all can be dangerous, not just the pit bulls.

I'd quite like to add my two cents here as well. Apparently this lady `knows' dogs. Well, I would also consider myself someone who `knows' dogs, given that I work with them and am training to become an obedience trainer. Pitbulls, whilst having possibly more of a high prey drive than say, a cocker spaniel, are no more dangerous when raised correctly than other dogs. Pitbulls, remember, are a type of terrier, and ALL terriers are naturally more tenacious, with higher prey drives, than other breeds. Jack Russells are included in this too!

Someone earlier mentioned that people who are attacked may have missed `canine warning signs'. This is absolutely true. Many people (including many breeders and trainers also, sadly) do not truly understand the nature of dogs, and expect them to behave the way WE want them to behave. This just doesn't happen.

Dogs operate on a pack awareness. Even if they are single dogs, they will automatically view every other being in the house - cat, human, bird, rabbit etc, as part of their pack, and unless trained otherwise, will assume the role of alpha dog. This leads to alpha behaviours such as jumping up, barking at strangers, pulling on the lead, separation anxiety etc. As soon as you learn to interpret these signals from the dog's point of view, and start to manage them by assuming the alpha role, you take a lot of responsibility and anxiety away from the dog.

Someone who could be petting a quiet dog who `out of nowhere' turns and bites, may well be dealing with a misguided alpha dog who is acting protectively, rather than aggressively, only we see it as aggression because we don't understand the signals.

Unless abused, tortured or raised on purpose to be aggressive, dogs just ARE NOT naturally aggressive, unless protecting members of their pack. There is no such thing as a `trigger' to make a good dog turn bad, just misread signs that lead to an unacceptable behaviour, leading from not the dog not understanding its role and acting from a misplaced attitude.

Trust me, if you are truly own the alpha role with your dog, it will never, ever do anything untoward, because that's not it's job, and dogs take these things very seriously.

Yes, it's the nature of the beast to operate like it would in a pack, but it's NOT the nature of the beast to be vicious or aggressive for no reason (even if we don't happen to see one) because that just ain't the way it is!

A very famous dog behaviourist and trainer, Jan Fennell, first came up with and used the `alpha' theory and another method called Amichien Bonding to interpret and explain dogs' behaviours, and to help with behaviour modification. She has had resounding international success, has a pack of eight dogs including German Shepherds, and has total control. She has successfully saved many, many dogs from being put down after being judged as `untrainable' or `too vicious' and turned them into well-adjusted, happy, gentle - and most importantly - properly understood dogs. She has developed a way for a dog's TRUE nature to show, and it's been an eye-opener and very pleasant surprise for many people who thought their `aggressive' dogs were beyond helping.

 

[wellingtoncats]

I've met much more aggressive nasty Jack Russels then Pit Bulls, I have to admit.

 

[KitEKats4Eva!]

Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

I've met much more aggressive nasty Jack Russels then Pit Bulls, I have to admit.

Yes, well, it was a Jack Russell that ran up to Ruby at the beach and bit her on the nose - and her owner tried to tell me it was just `dominance' behaviour. Maybe if she learnt to understand her dog a little better it wouldn't feel the need to bite bigger dogs (or display dominance behaviour at all, I might add)!

 

[chichismom]

Thank you soo much for posting that Sarah! I was going to post longer, but I was getting upset so I kept it short. Do you have any tips on how to keep Willy from jumping up on us when he gets too exited? ( sorry for hijacking the thread

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Gemini, is there any news as of today?