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Hi, apologies in advance for the long story and wall of text.

Originally this female stray cat and decided on our place to raise her babies but not long after, the babies went missing and she went on heat, more babies on the way.

After the initial litter and she started crying for her babies, I started feeding her and she began to trust me after a few weeks. She doesn't stay too long and wanders off only to come back for food (ha). But as her pregnancy went on, she stayed around longer. That's good.

When she finally gave birth, there were 4 kittens. 2 boys and 2 girls and about 1 and a half month in, something was slowly looking wrong, she didn't really want to eat, puked and probably had blood in her urine. She walked off and hasn't been seen since.

Which leaves me to care for her kittens*. Thankfully, they're able to eat on their own but at one point they had diarrhea, vomit and bloody stools (I first switched foods which improved but turns out it's probably just worms). 2 kittens in particular was sickly but improved after some medication and deworming.

*I had to learn how to handle the litter box, train them from staying away from the veggies (gardening) and basically everything that comes with. Everything was new to me. Also trying not to tear my hair out for the past 1 and half months.

It was on Monday (July 19) that I got them dewormed (Pyrantel Pamoate). Due to my lack of experience, I fed them kitten milk (prior to deworming) and too much liquids (after deworming) which is why their stool was still loose after 2 vet visits. (Will be resuming the activated charcoal liquid as given by the vet.)

I stopped that yesterday and the stool has some improvement BUT It came to my attention that one of the male kittens isn't very active (snoozes a lot, doesn't eat much and lets me hold him when he usually just squirms off to play. It was initially just the girls that were sick (1st vet visit) and the boys were fine.

I try to feed by hand and he eats a little but stops. I see him drinking some water and don't think there's anything weird (no vomit, bloody stools) in the litter box yet.

Covid cases are surging drastically in my area and my turn for the vaccine has yet to come (at time of writing) but is it normal behaviour after deworming?

Or is it tapeworms, heartworms that wasn't covered by pyrantel pamoate that might be the issue?
They also have ear mites and I'll be dealing with that soon when this settles down. Seeing either of them eat less worries me and will turn to assist feeding if it keeps up.
 

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Hi T tortiesandtabbies Welcome to TCS.

Are you keeping the kittens indoors now? Outdoor cats have a very short life expectancy and sick kitten don't stand much chance at all outside, so please keep them indoors.

Have they been blood tested and vaccinated? I understand that it is difficult to get regular vet appointments at the moment, but kittens are vulnerable to a whole host of diseases, so getting them vaccinated would be your next step to keeping them healthy. Lethargy and diarrhea are the symptoms of a lot of cat diseases, so it might not be caused by the worms or the worming medicine.

Ear mites are treated with a topical ointment that won't affect their stomachs. You can get this from your vet. Ask the vet to show you how to clean out their ears and apply the cream, as they sometimes need several doses
 
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Hi T tortiesandtabbies Welcome to TCS.

Are you keeping the kittens indoors now? Outdoor cats have a very short life expectancy and sick kitten don't stand much chance at all outside, so please keep them indoors.

Have they been blood tested and vaccinated? I understand that it is difficult to get regular vet appointments at the moment, but kittens are vulnerable to a whole host of diseases, so getting them vaccinated would be your next step to keeping them healthy. Lethargy and diarrhea are the symptoms of a lot of cat diseases, so it might not be caused by the worms or the worming medicine.

Ear mites are treated with a topical ointment that won't affect their stomachs. You can get this from your vet. Ask the vet to show you how to clean out their ears and apply the cream, as they sometimes need several doses
They're technically outdoors but are only out in an enclosed space (garden) under supervision but not exposed to the elements, no exposure to other cats but each other. I plan for them to be vaccinated and fixed (in due time) but have been refraining from leaving home.

Noted the ear mites meds, will reach out to the vet clinic. I have been cleaning them out before there was the need for the 1st vet visit but stopped because of the necessity of syringe feeding 2 kittens which leaves me quite exhausted.
 
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Morning progress: The male kitten that wasn't willing to eat is back to eating again. Introduced new wet food yesterday, however, their stool is grey (even after feeding activated charcoal) and is firmer now. No overly strong smell from their stool.
 

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They're technically outdoors but are only out in an enclosed space (garden) under supervision but not exposed to the elements, no exposure to other cats but each other.
That sounds like a good set up. Do they have a house they can get into as well? I use converted dog kennels for my outdoor mainly/only cats.

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If they are going to be outdoor cats you could try using food grade Diatomaceous earth in their enclosure. This keeps fleas, lice and other insects away. As a general rule it's a good idea to get them vaccinated when they reach 600 grams, second vaccine a few weeks after that and then spayed and neutered at the 5 month mark. A lot of mine are former ferals and can be hard to handle, but fortunately only a few of them have needed extra vet care after their initial vaccines and surgeries

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The male kitten that wasn't willing to eat is back to eating again.
:woo:

That's great news! I hope the little guy keeps fighting. We'd love to see some pictures if you have any.
 
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That sounds like a good set up. Do they have a house they can get into as well? I use converted dog kennels for my outdoor mainly/only cats.

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If they are going to be outdoor cats you could try using food grade Diatomaceous earth in their enclosure. This keeps fleas, lice and other insects away. As a general rule it's a good idea to get them vaccinated when they reach 600 grams, second vaccine a few weeks after that and then spayed and neutered at the 5 month mark. A lot of mine are former ferals and can be hard to handle, but fortunately only a few of them have needed extra vet care after their initial vaccines and surgeries

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:woo:

That's great news! I hope the little guy keeps fighting. We'd love to see some pictures if you have any.
I'd describe it as an expanded cage (has several floors) but I do cover the outsides at night in case it gets chilly. Thank you for the general rule, due to situations out of my influence, I definitely missed a lot of things and currently reaping what I sow 😢

Now it's one of the girls that doesn't have an appetite but will see how that goes (got another dewormer, same goes to the male kitten who didn't want to eat. He's better now!).
 
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