Greetings Fred, sorry, I am just now seeing this post. I'm glad ZP removed the TSPP as well as agar agar. Maybe Artie isn't liking the chickpeas that were added to the new canned formulas? I'm guessing the addition of this carb is for the sake of binding the food. I'm not a fan of beans in pet food, it's hard enough for humans to digest beans, much less a cat. It's also too bad Artie doesn't like FN, it really is top of the line. You could continue trying to tempt Artie with ZP, if that's what you want him to eat, maybe with the use of a freeze dried topper, just a pinch, on top of the food. Other suggestions ... you could look into Bravo's canned line, they don't make venison or lamb, just poultry (duck, chicken turkey) and beef formulas. The food isn't too carby, the pates less so than the fricassee varieties. They do use agar agar, however, if you're concerned with that ingredient. I like that Bravo includes heart meat in their recipes. Other than A few Tiki Cat (non fish) flavors, and a handful of Weruva varieties, not sure what else to recommend (I'm pretty picky, lol and do mostly raw with my cats along with meat baby food and occasionally FN, Weruva.) Actually weren't you using Life's Abundance at one point, if I recall from one of your earlier posts? I considered that food previously, I was going to order a couple sample cans, however, the chicken meal in the food turned me off. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.