Nature’s Logic Canned... Thoughts?

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In my quest for the (impossible) perfect food, I stumbled upon this food. No guar gum, no carrageenan. Looks pretty decent. Has anyone ever tried it? What are your valued opinions? Thank you!
 

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LOL. yes the impossible quest. Its not a bad looking food, i have tried it but my guys were not fans, but they are not good to go by, their not fans of a lot of foods :(

It a bit higher in fat than i really like, but most foods are. The carbs look good, despite all the fruits and veggies. I looked it up on Dr. piersons site.

https://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf
 

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The fact that it contains clay would be a deal breaker for me, although it does have a lot of quality protein sources in the first few ingredients.

"Montmorillonite is a very soft phyllosilicate group of minerals that form when they precipitate from water solution as microscopic crystals, known as clay. It is named after Montmorillon in France."

I would worry about crystal formation. But then again, I use clumping litter, so not sure I am any safer in that regard.
 

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The fact that it contains clay would be a deal breaker for me, although it does have a lot of quality protein sources in the first few ingredients.

"Montmorillonite is a very soft phyllosilicate group of minerals that form when they precipitate from water solution as microscopic crystals, known as clay. It is named after Montmorillon in France."

I would worry about crystal formation. But then again, I use clumping litter, so not sure I am any safer in that regard.
Why would it (or clumping litter) cause crystal formation?
 

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I am thinking since it converts to crystals.

In any regard, I would not give my cat a food that contained clay as an ingredient. Just my personal preference. You could run it by your vet.

I am no nutritional expert. But clay in a food sounds dubious.
 

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I am thinking since it converts to crystals.

In any regard, I would not give my cat a food that contained clay as an ingredient. Just my personal preference. You could run it by your vet.

I am no nutritional expert. But clay in a food sounds dubious.
I think it might if it alters the acidity of the urine, but I don't think the clay itself would turn into crystals.

I think there's pretty much no research on the effects of this clay on cats, but I do see it in a lot of cat foods including Nature's Variety and Primal.

I know it's a big fad right now for human holistic nutritionists, apparently it has a bunch of health benefits.
 

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Ok, I did not know that. I give Fancy Feast wet and prescription dry, so I don't know much about holistic foods. I did not realize clay was a common ingredient.
 

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Ok, I did not know that. I give Fancy Feast wet and prescription dry, so I don't know much about holistic foods. I did not realize clay was a common ingredient.
Well, you're right to be cautious, we don't know a lot about its long-term effects.
 
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LOL. yes the impossible quest. Its not a bad looking food, i have tried it but my guys were not fans, but they are not good to go by, their not fans of a lot of foods :(

It a bit higher in fat than i really like, but most foods are. The carbs look good, despite all the fruits and veggies. I looked it up on Dr. piersons site.

https://catinfo.org/docs/CatFoodProteinFatCarbPhosphorusChart.pdf
I’m going to order a case. I’m so excited about it. I hope they like it. I have 5 cats and Instinct is unaffordable for 5. This is
I think it might if it alters the acidity of the urine, but I don't think the clay itself would turn into crystals.

I think there's pretty much no research on the effects of this clay on cats, but I do see it in a lot of cat foods including Nature's Variety and Primal.

I know it's a big fad right now for human holistic nutritionists, apparently it has a bunch of health benefits.
The fact that it contains clay would be a deal breaker for me, although it does have a lot of quality protein sources in the first few ingredients.

"Montmorillonite is a very soft phyllosilicate group of minerals that form when they precipitate from water solution as microscopic crystals, known as clay. It is named after Montmorillon in France."

I would worry about crystal formation. But then again, I use clumping litter, so not sure I am any safer in that regard.
I’m less concerned about
Montmorillonite Clay than I am with guar gum, xanthum gum, carrageenan. I’m reading there are actually health benefits associated with the clay.
 

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The fact that it contains clay would be a deal breaker for me, although it does have a lot of quality protein sources in the first few ingredients.

"Montmorillonite is a very soft phyllosilicate group of minerals that form when they precipitate from water solution as microscopic crystals, known as clay. It is named after Montmorillon in France."

I would worry about crystal formation. But then again, I use clumping litter, so not sure I am any safer in that regard.
The clay does not cause crystal formation; however if your cat is prone to dry or hard stools or to constipation~ the clay will increase the constipation..

That is the problem with any foods with contain this clay; as in Nature's Variety Instinct.
 

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I hope your cats enjoy it, and do very well on it! :heartshape: I have the hardest time with mine and new foods, i get so excited, then they are like :running: I dont know why they are so fussy :rolleyes3: I just got to donate a whole case of Dr. Elseys, and a case of Lotus just juicy chicken, hope the colony cats enjoyed it.:crossfingers:
 

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I’m going to order a case. I’m so excited about it. I hope they like it. I have 5 cats and Instinct is unaffordable for 5. This is


I’m less concerned about
Montmorillonite Clay than I am with guar gum, xanthum gum, carrageenan. I’m reading there are actually health benefits associated with the clay.
I would be more concerned with ingestion of clay than I would be a pea plant derivative or seaweed derivative, but to each his own. Actually, I would prefer to avoid all three.
 
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I would be more concerned with ingestion of clay than I would be a pea plant derivative or seaweed derivative, but to each his own. Actually, I would prefer to avoid all three.
There are no perfect canned foods. Tiki was close, but now they add menadione :-(. So frustrating. My cats LOVE canned Applaws. But their canned poultry varieties are not nutritionally balanced.
 
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