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Came into this world with a lot on hi shoulders right off by being cryptorchid resulting double surgery when getting him fixed and then we are told and shown that mommy gave him her stomitis in how at only 7 months at the time, his gums were already blood red and now at almost a year old, is not going away. He is long, tall and so lanky anyway but come meal time, he stays back knowing the problems and pain involved and just wants to be left alone to get his belly full.
If anyone has dealt with this, what was the final process?
Mommy does just fine with how many ever teeth she has left so I guess I am also asking if some teeth removed and antibiotics will hopefully make it simple and over with?
He is the first one that came out on the floor under my sectional recliner as mom was possibly still reeling from the burning RV and losing her newish buddies on March 21st but April 1st was definitely blooming kittens anyway!! She was absolutely silent the entire time and was not bothered at all by my sons and I ooohing and aaahing.
I'll never love anything like Jackie blue but at least he is trying to help.
 

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One of my fur babies with stomatitis/gingivitis had to have all if his teeth pulled before he was 2 years old. He's 10 years old now and doing great.

I would check with your vet first but they may send you to a dental specialist.

Definitely don't just wait to see what happens. This won't go away on its own, but there may be less drastic treatments to try.

Good luck with your baby.
 

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Hi!
at only 7 months at the time, his gums were already blood red and now at almost a year old, is not going away. He is long, tall and so lanky anyway but come meal time, he stays back knowing the problems and pain involved and just wants to be left alone to get his belly full.
If anyone has dealt with this, what was the final process?
Every cat is different, and if he's reluctant to eat (have you tried different foods? Pate style perhaps that might be easier for him to handle?) you don't want to wait getting his dental issues addressed.

daftcat75 daftcat75 is another member who could tell you more.
 
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This sounds like stomatitis which is different from what Krista had (tooth resorption.)

Cats are stoic about pain and will eat through pain. So if you are seeing your boy hesitate to eat, that's a sign of a lot of pain.

Stomatitis won't clear up. Don't delay on this. Contact a veterinary dentist. Get on his schedule. It could be months before you can see a specialist. So call around and get him some appointments and get him on waiting lists if you have some schedule flexibility. A board certified dentist can evaluate whether a full mouth extraction is recommended and necessary. If it is, procedure appointments are usually much shorter wait after initial consultations.

In the short term, ask your vet if steroids or opiods would be appropriate to help with the inflammation and pain until you can get that specialist appointment.
 
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Hi!

Every cat is different, and if he's reluctant to eat (have you tried different foods? Pate style perhaps that might be easier for him to handle?) you don't want to wait getting his dental issues addressed.

daftcat75 daftcat75 is another member who could tell you more.
Yes, he definitely loves me for trying pate and now joins right in again!! I had shunned pate because our past 3 babies couldn't stand it, lol.
I'm not against pulling teeth if necessary as mommie only has about 8 and does just fine but omg, the cost!? Can't even fathom how many hundreds it will take.
 
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This sounds like stomatitis which is different from what Krista had (tooth resorption.)

Cats are stoic about pain and will eat through pain. So if you are seeing your boy hesitate to eat, that's a sign of a lot of pain.

Stomatitis won't clear up. Don't delay on this. Contact a veterinary dentist. Get on his schedule. It could be months before you can see a specialist. So call around and get him some appointments and get him on waiting lists if you have some schedule flexibility. A board certified dentist can evaluate whether a full mouth extraction is recommended and necessary. If it is, procedure appointments are usually much shorter wait after initial consultations.

In the short term, ask your vet if steroids or opiods would be appropriate to help with the inflammation and pain until you can get that specialist appointment.
Thanks very much!
He will kind of bark out during eating and now sometimes while grooming himself.
It's like hearing the human version of "f***"! after daddy hit his thumb with the hammer.
Calling vet now.
 

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Yes, he definitely loves me for trying pate and now joins right in again!! I had shunned pate because our past 3 babies couldn't stand it, lol.
I'm not against pulling teeth if necessary as mommie only has about 8 and does just fine but omg, the cost!? Can't even fathom how many hundreds it will take.
Thousands! 😿

But it's worth it!

Tldr; General vets don't have any dentistry training other than simple pulls. Start with the vet to see if there's medications to help him until you can get an appointment with a dental specialist.

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My Krista had tooth resorption. It was causing her so much pain that she was peeing my walls out of distress. I had no idea what was going on because cats hide pain. I battled for months trying to get her to stop peeing the walls. I finally had to take her to the vet for something else. I mentioned the peeing and the vet popped open her mouth and said, "yep! It's a cry for help. Her teeth are going bad and she's trying to get your attention." We pulled the first set of bad teeth (molars, pre-molars, 1 canine) and she stopped peeing the walls.

But over the course of the next year and a half, every few months, she'd stop eating altogether. I'd take her down to the vet for dental exam and they'd pull another few teeth.

Last summer, her vet told me, "we no longer feel comfortable pulling any more of her teeth and encourage you to take her to a veterinary dentist instead." They were concerned that her few remaining teeth were difficult pulls and they were afraid they might either break her jaw or they just weren't skilled enough for the remaining work.

We have five or six vet dentists in the Bay Area. But that's not enough for how many animals need their services. I called around. Most of the wait times to get a consultation were 2 months. One was even booked out to six months. I got Krista on an appetite stimulant and pain medicine. Even still, she wasn't eating much or very well. She all but stopped eating canned food and was only eating a half an ounce of homemade raw at a time. She wasn't going to make it two months, much less six months. I asked one of the dentist's receptionists I spoke to if I could intubate her with a feeding tube to get her to the appointment. She said the dentist preferred to work with stable patients only as he was not working out of a vet office and didn't have the same support a general animal hospital would have. Most of the vet dentists were working out of private practices rather than in a hospital environment. I was crushed because she wasn't going to make it two months the way she was eating so little.

Ultimately, we got so lucky! We found a vet dentist in Rohnert Park which was just a few miles away from the evacuation zone of an active wildfire last year. The fire evacuations cleared so much of his schedule that we were able to get in for a consult in two weeks and a same day procedure because he had an evacuation cancellation. The wildfire saved Krista's life!

The dentist showed me on the X-rays why it's better to see a vet dentist and not leave it up to a general practice vet who has just enough vet training to pull teeth. But not enough to always do it right. There were at least three different vets who pulled teeth in her mouth so who knows who did what. But one of them drilled out the teeth and left the roots. This was undoubtedly causing her pain. Her remaining canine was rubbing against her lip and gum and causing ulceration.

I told the dentist to make it the last dental procedure she'll ever need since none of the vets want to work in her mouth anymore. The dentist pulled all her remaining teeth and cleaned up the root fragments. She was eating heartily hours after the procedure. She happily eats now with no teeth. Mostly pates. She can eat shredded textures but she makes a huge mess out of it.
 

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By the way, maybe they would be willing to work out a payment plan? Or something like that to help if necessary, and we can provide some other possible options regarding financial aid.
 
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I will when vets are back to taking patients again.....
 
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Uno is currently eating with yesterday's antibiotic in him and on him and very upset with me for needing to give it to him.
I know all the hiding tricks but this one has a stronger odor.
They also dosed him for his pain for two weeks.
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Thanks everyone!
 
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