I have also bought chicken flavored gelatin capsules for nasty tasting pills. I can then slip it into a pill pocket of just place it in wet food.
For my cat, A tiny portion with a lot of water did the trick.I had only mixed results with that. I ground up his zyrtec and added to tuna when he was taking that but he never ate all of it at once except one time. That happened again today, ground up his m pills, just picked them up at dvm to try instead of liquid, and he only ate a little bit. I use a pill crusher.
I am going to try that with pill pockets I don’t know if he will eat them but it is worth a try. I have to go to the doctor yet again tomorrow and I will try to pick some up on the way home. I just don’t know if any of this is having any effect because he is not getting the right dose of medication at the right time and it’s not in his system. Etc.I have also bought chicken flavored gelatin capsules for nasty tasting pills. I can then slip it into a pill pocket of just place it in wet food.
No, those feeding sessions were far apart, and he never eats all of it at once. He knows the meds are in there. He has only eaten all of it at once twice with liquid put in 9 lives I think. I think because he was so jphungry those times.You said he ate his food wIth the crushed pill in it, but in two feeding sessions. Doesn't that mean he's still getting it?
I think he needs to get the dose all at once though for it to work properly. I am just throwing the food away with meds after he won’t eat it. We are wasting a lot of very expensive food and meds here. Last night he ate the pill in a gel cap in two pill pockets. But today he wouldn’t. I left him with just the pill pocket and no food for 2-3 hours and he would not eat it. I put the capsule in a piece of sardine after this and he ate it. But it was about 5 hours after he should have got the next dose. So far no poop at all today. I gave him more sardines and the special diet with s boulardi now so he will prolly poop soon.What if you tried grinding a number of pills and measuring it into different meals? Or save his uneaten food in the fridge for later ?
Thanks, still no sign of normal poop. I am not sure if he is even getting enough of the meds to help really since he refuses it most of the time or only eats a little. Yesterday he ate it all, a crushed pill in a gel cap, in 2 pill pockets, but at his next dose he refused that. He pretty much has to be starving to eat it, he hates the flagyl. I got him to eat it in a sardine but it was few hours after he should have had the next dose. I switched back to s boulardi because he doesn’t seem to like forti flora. I gave him a whole capsule in some of the rx meds and more sardines. I hope it is not too much. I will check out those spoons if I can find them. I am feeling so hopeless about this, I hope it goes to normal poop soon.Did you try the saccharomyces boulardii?
I found that not only did Krista like the s. boulardii and it definitely helped with her squirts, but she also took a full 10 day course of flagyl mixed into the yeast (s. boulardii.) Towards the end, she did need just a small amount of food in her yeast pile but she did finish the whole course. That said, it was really only helpful for a couple of days. As the course went on, it destroyed her appetite and she was barely eating much more than the medicine meal.
I think the two things that really helped with Krista was:
1. I increased her s. boulardii dose to 2.5 bln CFU (half a capsule), four times a day. If you have (or want to get) the smidgen-pinch-dash measuring spoons, half a capsule is a pinch or 1/16 of a teaspoon.
2. I added more digestible food to her diet. At first, that was Tiki Cat Raw. Then it was slow cooker turkey or turkey sashimi (the meat I cut off the bone for the slow cooker I cut up into tiny pieces for my nearly toothless cat to get through.) And now I'm making her some homemade with turkey wing meat, turkey liver, and supplements. You can "wing it" for a week or two to stabilize him. But after a couple weeks, I would make sure you are feeding him nutritionally complete food. You don't want to trade one problem for another.
The more experienced brain that I picked when I was feeling hopeless about this, the owner of a local raw feeders co-op, put it this way:Thanks, still no sign of normal poop. I am not sure if he is even getting enough of the meds to help really since he refuses it most of the time or only eats a little. Yesterday he ate it all, a crushed pill in a gel cap, in 2 pill pockets, but at his next dose he refused that. I got him to eat it in a sardine but it was @ few hours after he shoild have had the next dose. I switched back to s boulardi because he doesn’t seem to like the forti flora. I gave him a whole capsule in some of the rx meds and more sardines. I hope it is not too much. I will check out those spoons if I can find them. I am feeling so hopeless about this, I hope it goes to normal poop soon.
He won’t eat the flagyl at all in food or sb etc. he only did it ince in 9 lives juice and baby food but that was when I withheld food for a long time and he was starving. The only way to get it him is is in a Capsule somehow, and there is no way to pill him without risking a bite.The more experienced brain that I picked when I was feeling hopeless about this, the owner of a local raw feeders co-op, put it this way:
”There’s a wide safety margin for s. boulardii. You can’t make matters any worse. You’ll know if you gave too much just as you’ll know if you’re not giving enough.”
Put some of the s. boulardii on a plate by itself or with a little food to see if he likes it. If he does, then you can use as much as a whole capsule to to mix into as small amount of food as possible to get him to take the yeast and the medicine. Once he’s taken his medicine, you’re free to feed him “un-poisoned” (medicine-free) food. I suggest something bland like poached chicken or poached turkey. Plain meat is not nutritionally balanced but neither is food running too quickly through him to get digested. Stabilize his gut first and then you can reintroduce his regular food again.
Well. Flagyl only worked the second day. Then it was, “I’ll give it anyway because I’m not growing resistant strains in her gut if I can help it.” Hopefully the s boulardii will start working soon. Give more. I started her on 5 bln cfu twice a day. And that lessened the frequency but didn’t firm it up. When I went to 2.5, 4 times a day, it started to get better. But honestly. It was switching to bland food, raw food, raw meat, and poached meat that got her over the hump and producing solid stools again. Now I’m able to leave out her regular food again. I’m still working on the best raw for her. Maybe S&C Selects.He won’t eat the flagyl at all in food or sb etc. he only did it ince in 9 lives juice and baby food but that was when I withheld food for a long time and he was starving. The only way to get it him is is in a Capsule somehow, and there is no way to pill him without risking a bite.
Well I had hopes that he was going to go back to normal since he did not poop all day yesterday but today there was a lot more stinky liquid poop and it was all over the place I had to clean out the litter pan yet again and he’s tracking it all over the floor really don’t know how much longer I can deal with all of this and I’m going to just release him soon- nobody wants him and maybe it is from being inside. The rx diet has no effect at all, another waste of money.Well. Flagyl only worked the second day. Then it was, “I’ll give it anyway because I’m not growing resistant strains in her gut if I can help it.” Hopefully the s boulardii will start working soon. Give more. I started her on 5 bln cfu twice a day. And that lessened the frequency but didn’t firm it up. When I went to 2.5, 4 times a day, it started to get better. But honestly. It was switching to bland food, raw food, raw meat, and poached meat that got her over the hump and producing solid stools again. Now I’m able to leave out her regular food again. I’m still working on the best raw for her. Maybe S&C Selects.
Thanks,I haven't read all the replies but I know that there are a couple of specialized tests you can have, you can have them send a G.I. Panel to Texas A & M. University veterinary...this will delve into all types of parasites and GI problems.
Secondly, there is a test called " Ova-Parasites & Giardaia Test " from Amtech.. ( there is a code T808 on that test although I have no idea what that means LOL ) .
My cat has IBD and diabetes and chronic, very bad diarrhea...and now they think he might need these additional tests...If we can't locate the issue, there is always an ultrasound.
Yes but the difference being Merlin should have been released before all of this started and I am in a terrible bind now because no one wants him. His poop was normal until recently. I should have left well enough alone, not wormed him and not switched his diet etc. or tried to etc. There will be no way to monitor it outside. The dvm is closed so no help until Monday. I doubt they will be able to help either they will just say do an ultrasound. Someone on this thread posted it, but I don’t recommend wasting money on those tests frankly. Even my dvm told me not to do them Good luck with your guy, hopefully it is the stress and will stop soon.Hi Meowmee ! I am not sure exactly what those tests are or how they would be different from what you are doing....just a suggestion to talk to your vet about and they might not even be relevant to your situation....I do know that on-going bad cat poop can be a nightmare. My kitty has had IBD off and on for years, concurrent with intermittent diabetes....he is 10 now and after four years of good poop and good blood sugar, we were thru a move this summer, a lot of high stress stuff went on and two new little kittens moved in with us, too, so he has been thru a lot....and suddenly his poop has gone bad, for weeks on end. We are on our way this week for a lot of tests, bloodwork, etc. I will update. That is an excellent site, that zoologix.com Thanks for sharing that.....hey, good luck to both of us, right ?