Loose upper canine, will need removal - Prednisolone and anesthesia?

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Hello, we are in trouble again, but with something different this time. Musiaka is on a very low dose prednisolone (1,75 mg daily) to control his ibd and chronic vomiting and it's been working really well. He was so extra playful ever since we started on pred, so I guess all those games have resulted in a lose fang...
Musiaka has always had a chipped upper canine, ever since I got him. But he was licking around his mouth extra much today and his appetite has been going up and down from eating loads to barely anything. Last night and in the morning his appetite was great, but after that mouth smacking session I noticed thay he comes to the bowl, tries to eat but also ends up making that smacking sound and not eating much.
I looked into his mouth and oh boy, his chipped canine is lose, the gum around it isn't very red, but it doesn't look nice. He still ran around playing afterwards, but not much eating today. Now I suspect it's because of the tooth.

So we are scheduled at the vet tomorrow, does anyone have any experiences with fang removal procedures? I'm so afraid that anesthesia is dangerous for Musiaka while he's on pred. But I assume that removal is the only way now, right?
 
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Our cat had his upper canine removed awhile ago and it went very well. His teeth were in bad shape when we adopted him and he's needed several dental surgeries so we went to a Board Certified Veterinary Dental Specialist. My husband kept calling him Snaggletooth, (same cartoon character as Snagglepuss), afterwards. I'm glad you were able to get an appointment with your vet tomorrow. Please keep us posted, good luck! :crossfingers:
 
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Our cat had his upper canine removed awhile ago and it went very well. His teeth were in bad shape when we adopted him and he's needed several dental surgeries so we went to a Board Certified Veterinary Dental Specialist. My husband kept calling him Snaggletooth, (same cartoon character as Snagglepuss), afterwards. I'm glad you were able to get an appointment with your vet tomorrow. Please keep us posted, good luck! :crossfingers:
Thanks!
How long was the recovery time? Did your cat need pain meds after? Anesthesia went well?
 

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It's been awhile so I can't remember the exact recovery time but if there had been a problem I would have definitely remembered that. Yes, I'm almost positive he had pain meds but that went fine too. Anesthesia is always my biggest worry because he's a Brachycephalic breed. I learned years ago with two other Persians to request a specific type of anesthesia due to the breed's breathing issues.
 
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Does anyone know if anesthesia is fine for an IBD cat currently on pred (small dose)? Is it some kind of milder/shorter lasting anesthesia for tooth extraction?
 

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Our boy had to have his canine removed due to the tip breaking off. Eating was painful for him as the pulp was showing. He wasn't on any serious meds but was undergoing a long term antibiotic treatment for a very stubborn sinus infection. He has chronic rhinitis and is prone to infection due to the damage to his sinus cavity. He was a rescue so treatment wasn't given to him until he was picked up by the shelter.
Anyway, his surgery went fabulously. We were given a few days worth of pain meds. By the time we brought him home from the vet, you wouldn't have even known he had been put under anesthesia, but he was at the vet for a few hours post surgery so most of his "wake up time" happened at the vet. Within the hour of being home, he was running around and playing. I think he was so relieved that his tooth pain was gone. His eating habits and appetite increased right away, the vets even told me that he ate a couple times during his recovery.
For surgery though, I did get the blood work done to make sure he was healthy, he was provided with fluids during surgery, and they took all extra precautions that not all vets or owners have/want done. My vet is a surgical vet with over 30 years experience so I'm sure that also played into how beautifully everything went.

I'm sure you kitty will feel SO much better when the tooth is gone.
 
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Our boy had to have his canine removed due to the tip breaking off. Eating was painful for him as the pulp was showing. He wasn't on any serious meds but was undergoing a long term antibiotic treatment for a very stubborn sinus infection. He has chronic rhinitis and is prone to infection due to the damage to his sinus cavity. He was a rescue so treatment wasn't given to him until he was picked up by the shelter.
Anyway, his surgery went fabulously. We were given a few days worth of pain meds. By the time we brought him home from the vet, you wouldn't have even known he had been put under anesthesia, but he was at the vet for a few hours post surgery so most of his "wake up time" happened at the vet. Within the hour of being home, he was running around and playing. I think he was so relieved that his tooth pain was gone. His eating habits and appetite increased right away, the vets even told me that he ate a couple times during his recovery.
For surgery though, I did get the blood work done to make sure he was healthy, he was provided with fluids during surgery, and they took all extra precautions that not all vets or owners have/want done. My vet is a surgical vet with over 30 years experience so I'm sure that also played into how beautifully everything went.

I'm sure you kitty will feel SO much better when the tooth is gone.
Thank you so much! This is really encouraging.
I will ask for all extra precautions too. However our vet is very young, but hopefully she will manage well.
It makes my stomach churn thinking that Musiaka is in pain. He doesn't act like it at all, but cats are excellent at hiding pain. He even had zoomies today, but I can now see that eating isn't very pleasant for him even though he's obviously hungry. He's eating with one side of the mouth
 

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Mocha doesn’t have IBD, but she had all but six of her teeth removed a couple of years ago. She was pretty loopy and kind of pitiful when she got home, and she “hid” in a little cave I made for her that evening. She was much better the next morning. I did give her pain meds (buprenorphine) for a couple of days.
 

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Our cat, Casper, had the same problem.

He was licking and smacking his mouth and it looked like he had something caught in his teeth so we took him to the vet.

Our vet took one look and said, "Yup!" She got a hemostat and pulled the tooth out with one quick yank. She gave him a shot of antibiotics and the deed was done.

We haven't had a problem, since.

You'd hardly ever notice that Casper is missing a tooth if you didn't look inside his mouth.
 
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Our cat, Casper, had the same problem.

He was licking and smacking his mouth and it looked like he had something caught in his teeth so we took him to the vet.

Our vet took one look and said, "Yup!" She got a hemostat and pulled the tooth out with one quick yank. She gave him a shot of antibiotics and the deed was done.

We haven't had a problem, since.

You'd hardly ever notice that Casper is missing a tooth if you didn't look inside his mouth.
Oh my gosh, without an anesthetic? :O wouldn't food get into the wound without sutures?
 
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We went to the vet today, she checked his teeth out, did some blood tests and gave him an antibiotic. On Monday we're scheduled for a surgery, so please please pray for us 🙏🙏

Musiaka's teeth issues are quite advanced, he has teeth resorbtion and both of his upper canines will have to be removed. Although one of them is likely to not have a root anymore and will have to be cut off, an x ray will show. The blood tests came out quite good, one of the liver enzymes was a bit too high, but our vet said that it's not a worry so far. Creatinine is too high, so an urine test will be done when Musiaka is under anesthesis.

We will also do a heart scan right before the surgery so it's as safe as possible.

The fact that Musiaka is on pred causes some issues however. He will be unable to get a regular painkiller so he will get some kind of opiod for a couple of days. I'm sick with worry but praying it will go well
 

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On Monday we're scheduled for a surgery, so please please pray for us 🙏🙏
We'll be keeping our fingers and paws crossed for Musiaka and you on Monday. :crossfingers: :bluepaw: Sending good vibes your way. :vibes::vibes:
 
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Is it ok for a cat who's on prednisolone (low dose, 1.75 mg daily) to go under anesthesia? We need teeth extractions due to teeth resorbtion and Musiaka experiecing visible discomfort. Has anyone had any experiences with pred + anesthesia?

I'm reading that in human cases, a steroid cover is needed before surgery, becauses the steroids in blood stream drop during the surgery and can lead to an acute adrenal failure, but it seems to be for higher doses only. I wonder how it is in cats, the vet didn't say pred will interact with anesthesia, only that Musiaka won't be able to receive a regular painkiller afterwards. But I'd like to make my own research in case she missed something
 

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I have a cat who has asthma and is on 1.5 mg prednisolone every other day and he was put under to have a dental and he did fine. I had concerns because of the asthma as well as the steroids but it all went well. That is just my experience with it for what it is worth.
 

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Just be sure to tell your Vet that he on Pred prior to the anesthesia. Our Vet always asks what, if any, medications my boys are on prior to any procedure. Then they make any necessary adjustments.
 
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Just be sure to tell your Vet that he on Pred prior to the anesthesia. Our Vet always asks what, if any, medications my boys are on prior to any procedure. Then they make any necessary adjustments.
Yes, our vet is aware, she was talking about adjusting the painkiller after the surgery, cause regular painkillers interract with pred. However she didn't say anything about pred interacting with anesthesia. Only that we will do a heart scan to see if his anesthesia has to be adjusted. I hope pred won't make matters worse, I'm so worried
 
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I just realised what a possible complication there could be...
Musiaka has some breathing issues, his nose is often filled with mucus from what another vet described is a chronic rhinitis, possibly from not getting a shot against it early in his life (he came to me like that).
Could that be a fatal thing during anesthesia??
 

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Make sure your vet is aware of it, and that he is monitored closely after the procedure. During the procedure he most like will be on a ventilator.
 
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Make sure your vet is aware of it, and that he is monitored closely after the procedure. During the procedure he most like will be on a ventilator.
I calles the vet and told her, she's assuring me that it won't be a problem cause they're using an inhalator for anesthesia
 
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