Kitten at death's door from some infection/ ongoing issues and updates

[Meowmee]

Hi folks, hope you're all doing well.

Terry:

No fever, eating less, drinking less, has partial diarrhea. Super weak, still cannot walk normally, the hind part appears to be heavy and tilts while walking. His hind legs are probably too weak to support his body weight.

Blood Test Results:
Hb - 5.5 (previously 3.7 - 4 days ago)
WBC - 62.4K (previously 34.6k)
RBC - 3.64M (previously 2.88M)
PLT - 21K (previously 1074k)

Yes, the WBC is extremely alarming. I'm scared about Terry. I was expecting him to have mostly beaten the infection by now, but the infection just appears to have worsened. Any words of wisdom?
The Hb, RBC have slowly improved, but still pretty low.
Doc says the PLT the last time must have been an anomaly - the body's natural reaction to bolster itself when it knew the PLT was going to drop suddenly. He assumes it must have been below 21k after that, and that it should have increased since with treatment.
They didn't have time to discuss more on the blood test results. I'll have to ask for more info tomorrow.

Treatment:

1. Antibiotics
   1. Doxycycline
   2. Metronidazole
   3. Enrofloxacin
2. Tonic to increase PLT count - syrup containing Papaya leaf extract + Tinospora cardifolia / Gudichi extract + Andrographis paniculata extract
3. sachet containing colostrum + prebiotics - for immune system strengthening
4. Syrups to increase RBC
   1. Syrup containing silymarin and other natural extracts for liver
   2. iron tonic + Vitamin B12

Vet has reduced vet visits to once in 2 days. All meds are shifted to oral meds twice a day.

Shanky:

No fever, eating and drinking normally, full diarrhea, sleeps far longer. Hardly plays, but strong enough to do the normal amount of exploration and other activities.

Blood Test Results:
Hb - 9.5
WBC - 20.2K
RBC - 6.36M
PLT - 39K

It sounds quite obvious in hindsight, cannot believe how I missed it earlier.
Shanky never contracted FPV/FIE, Shanky contracted feline hemotrophic mycoplasmosis from Terry, caused by the bacteria Mycoplasma hemofelis.

We've got a lot of mosquitoes in our area, they could have spread it. The most common carrier listed is fleas, but neither of them seem to have it, as per my limited knowledge on fleas. I do intend to watch/read some tutorials to verify whether I've checked properly or missed anything.

Yeah, my previous posts now sound super silly, where I got emotional actually believing that day would be Shanky's last day. So embarrassing.

Treatment:

1. Antibiotics
   1. Doxycycline
   2. Metronidazole
   3. Enrofloxacin
2. Tonic to increase platelet count - syrup containing Papaya leaf extract + Tinospora cardifolia / Gudichi extract + Andrographis paniculata extract

Vet has reduced vet visits to once in 2 days. All meds are available as oral meds twice a day.

I told them I am ready to bring them both in once a day, so that if there's something wrong, they can find out immediately, and that it's hard to make Shanky eat tablets, she's super troublesome. But they encouraged us not to come, not sure why. Could there be a medical reason for tablets being preferred over injections?
Ofc, it does reduce the risk of picking up new infections at the vet. And it gives me a lot more time to sleep and have a life I caught my first uninterrupted 7 hour sleep today, since all this began. My body couldn't believe it that it kept waking me up periodically anyways lol.

from Shanky, Terry and me

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No, you are.


Thank you. That's exactly what's happening, they evolve fast and keep me on my toes.
Thank you for being on this journey with us. Words are not enough to explain how much it means to me.


Wow, that's a great reference site. I'm bookmarking the domain. Thank you.
On the same site, I came across Hemotropic Mycoplasma Infections in Animals - Circulatory System - Merck Veterinary Manual. Do you have similar informatory links on feline hemotropic mycoplasma or the bacteria Mycoplasma hemofelis? I'd love to know more.


Yeah, can't believe we were at a completely different stage just 3 days ago. Feels like a long time. Oh, Terry's getting lots of smooches.


Oh ok, I don't know if my vet actually tested for the bacteria like you said (if it's that straightforward) or just rattled it off the CBC report. It appeared like the latter, but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't think I can ask them point blank if they did it, they might take offense.

Wow, that's some experience. Yeah, Terry's HCT was 12 then. They told me then that we can increase it with oral meds and dismissed blood transfusion. I didn't probe them any further at the time. Do you think I should still consider transfusion given his HCT has improved from 12 to 16 in 5 days? Is that fast enough? I don't know how much experience my vets have with blood transfusion in their career, I'm in general always scared that my pets would end up being early lab rats in their careers. Also where would I get cat blood?


Welp, you guessed right, Yep, expensive revision lesson indeed. Can't believe I forgot it under duress.
How do you quarantine outdoor cats that are not yet comfortable with you? Don't they feel trapped and ask to leave?
Wow, you've got a foolproof system eh. Great for you. Lucky pets.
Yeah, I'm far from that level of quarantining. I still make emotional decisions.
Thank you for the emotional support!

Love and hugs to all, hope the kitties and you are ok. That is great Shanky does not have FPV.

when I bring the outdoor cats inside they go into a drop trap which they have some room to move around in and they have a litter pan, food and water. I clean it out and I talk to them…it’s also a good thing to do not only for quarantining but for a cat who is not totally tame because it calms them and makes them feel safe.

For the first time I have not done that with my most recent cat coming inside, cinnamon, who came inside about three weeks ago. I ended up putting him in a small bathroom. And I’m a little worried that it actually is slowing down his taming process. He was also peeing all over the place and created a big mess before I realized it but now he’s using his litter pans.

I would not say my system is full proof because nothing is 100% but I think it’s pretty good probably- it’s certainly better than the DVM ER hospital that I took Merlin to when he had C. difficile and has been having trouble going to the bathroom in his stomach was all hard and bloated.

They sent him home in the carrier with poop all over him and lied to me about it. Unbelievable I’ve never seen anything like that in my life. All they had to do was wash him off but they didn’t want to do it. Not only that, they carried him all over the hospital doing x-rays and infected their whole hospital…contaminated possibly themselves and other pets with C. difficile.

And they knew he had C Diff because I told them that when I brought him there. Some idiot there actually said when I first came in: is it a guess that he has c diff… wth? Who guesses their cat has C diff? I replied no it was confirmed with a PCR test.

So they also exposed me and my family etc. ….when I got home because I didn’t know that he had poop still all over him and his paws and I was letting him walk around so I had to spend hours de-contaminating my home. I had to give him a bath on the floor pouring water on him in the studio where he was. Suddenly I looked at his legs which have white stockings and mittens and the hind legs had poop all over them so I realized it then. His fur was a bit odd and was kind of smooshed and stuff and I thought it was because they had washed them and it was drying.

What happened was he had pooped on himself in the carrier on the way there and I thought he had vomited. And they actually lied to me about it and tried to send him home right away. DVM said that his stomach wasn’t swollen and hard anymore. But I insisted that they do some x-rays because I was still worried.

And then when I finally talk to the Dvm or she admitted to me that he had pooped explosive D all over the carrier and I said oh I guess that’s why his stomach is back to normal now. light bulb moment. They Actually tried to send him home right away and not charge me and they were lying about everything.

Unbelievable. Then I had to beg them to clean him off because I didn’t trust them at all anymore by that point, and the woman at the front desk says to me oh we don’t do that here!

But they told me that they had cleaned him later when they hadn’t. I don’t know what they did to him but they certainly didn’t wash him which is all they had to do which would’ve been very easy to do. I told my regular DVM and one of the techs there said she couldn’t believe it… that was totally unacceptable, and she said she had actually worked there before and she had never seen anything like that there and it was not true that “ they don’t do that here”

so I guess it is their policy now to let their patients be carried around the hospital with highly infectious poop all over them, contaminate everything, and then send them home with poop on them while lying about it. and let them sit around in their poop….unbelievable!

 

[Nilo]

Love and hugs to all, hope the kitties and you are ok. That is great Shanky does not have FPV.

when I bring the outdoor cats inside they go into a drop trap which they have some room to move around in and they have a litter pan, food and water. I clean it out and I talk to them…it’s also a good thing to do not only for quarantining but for a cat who is not totally tame because it calms them and makes them feel safe.

For the first time I have not done that with my most recent cat coming inside, cinnamon, who came inside about three weeks ago. I ended up putting him in a small bathroom. And I’m a little worried that it actually is slowing down his taming process. He was also peeing all over the place and created a big mess before I realized it but now he’s using his litter pans.

I would not say my system is full proof because nothing is 100% but I think it’s pretty good probably- it’s certainly better than the DVM ER hospital that I took Merlin to when he had C. difficile and has been having trouble going to the bathroom in his stomach was all hard and bloated.

They sent him home in the carrier with poop all over him and lied to me about it. Unbelievable I’ve never seen anything like that in my life. All they had to do was wash him off but they didn’t want to do it. Not only that, they carried him all over the hospital doing x-rays and infected their whole hospital…contaminated possibly themselves and other pets with C. difficile.

And they knew he had C Diff because I told them that when I brought him there. Some idiot there actually said when I first came in: is it a guess that he has c diff… wth? Who guesses their cat has C diff? I replied no it was confirmed with a PCR test.

So they also exposed me and my family etc. ….when I got home because I didn’t know that he had poop still all over him and his paws and I was letting him walk around so I had to spend hours de-contaminating my home. I had to give him a bath on the floor pouring water on him in the studio where he was. Suddenly I looked at his legs which have white stockings and mittens and the hind legs had poop all over them so I realized it then. His fur was a bit odd and was kind of smooshed and stuff and I thought it was because they had washed them and it was drying.

What happened was he had pooped on himself in the carrier on the way there and I thought he had vomited. And they actually lied to me about it and tried to send him home right away. DVM said that his stomach wasn’t swollen and hard anymore. But I insisted that they do some x-rays because I was still worried.

And then when I finally talk to the Dvm or she admitted to me that he had pooped explosive D all over the carrier and I said oh I guess that’s why his stomach is back to normal now. light bulb moment. They Actually tried to send him home right away and not charge me and they were lying about everything.

Unbelievable. Then I had to beg them to clean him off because I didn’t trust them at all anymore by that point, and the woman at the front desk says to me oh we don’t do that here!

But they told me that they had cleaned him later when they hadn’t. I don’t know what they did to him but they certainly didn’t wash him which is all they had to do which would’ve been very easy to do. I told my regular DVM and one of the techs there said she couldn’t believe it… that was totally unacceptable, and she said she had actually worked there before and she had never seen anything like that there and it was not true that “ they don’t do that here”

so I guess it is their policy now to let their patients be carried around the hospital with highly infectious poop all over them, contaminate everything, and then send them home with poop on them while lying about it. and let them sit around in their poop….unbelievable!

On one hand, your recounting of that incident is pretty funny. On the other hand, it's quite sad their mistakes could have spread the disease to innocent cats.

But it's interesting to hear that stuff like that happens there too, albeit rarely. Things like this happen here in every single visit without fail, there's hell a lot of fraud, incompetence and negligence here, in my country, that all of us have grown to expect it all the time.

Well, if I put any animal into a cage or a carrier or a trap or any closed enclosure, i get severe anxiety. The animal might not even mind, but i know i will. So, I only use them for transportation, and never otherwise. That's a handicap i work with, as of now. Maybe I'll get over it soon.

 

[Nilo]

N Nilo the diarrhoea is normal for the amount and time he's been on antibiotics for.

Never apologize for an emotional reaction of worry. You've basically been a solo ICU for a cat for weeks before the other cat got sick. It's natural this type of reaction.

Aww, thank you. I guess you're right.

 

[Meowmee]

On one hand, your recounting of that incident is pretty funny. On the other hand, it's quite sad their mistakes could have spread the disease to innocent cats.

But it's interesting to hear that stuff like that happens there too, albeit rarely. Things like this happen here in every single visit without fail, there's hell a lot of fraud, incompetence and negligence here, in my country, that all of us have grown to expect it all the time.

Well, if I put any animal into a cage or a carrier or a trap or any closed enclosure, i get severe anxiety. The animal might not even mind, but i know i will. So, I only use them for transportation, and never otherwise. That's a handicap i work with, as of now. Maybe I'll get over it soon.

I am sorry that is a regular thing there you all have to deal with. When I told people about this they told me they’ve had things like that happen here too so it’s not like it never happens here but you’re right I don’t think it’s a common event that happens every time you go to the DVM or a hospital. However there is still a lot of negligence here too sadly.

there’s always a lot of anxiety with all of these situations and it’s hard to tell how much of it is our anxiety versus the cat’s or whatever. If you’re actually trapping a cat which is what I had to do because these cats are not touchable they definitely get anxious in the beginning but over time they start to calm down and they learn that the cage is a safe place for them… so you can slowly start to interact with them through the cage and let them learn that you are not going to be a threat to them.

Each cat is different so you never know how they’re going to react. but for a cat that cannot be touched or that has to be quarantined it’s really a necessity I think.

The reason I have not used small bathrooms before is I did not want the cats to be in the larger part of the house and if the cat was aggressive I did not want to have to worry about getting them into a carrier to go to the DVM. In the drop trap I have, the carrier attaches to the trap and then I can get them to go in there with towels and a divider. So I don’t have to worry about getting injured and I think it’s also less stressful than trying to pick the cat up with a towel and get them into the carrier.

I was told about the caging technique many years ago by a woman who did a lot of TNR and taming of Feral Cats. Another technique you can use if you put them in a little room is to give them a box or place that they can kind of hide themselves where they feel safe. The thing is a lot of these cats feel scared of people so they have to be able to feel safe from you first in order to start calming down.

With a cat who is tame and touchable it is a totally different story. They can easily be quarantined in a small room by themselves and then you just have to be careful about washing your hands and changing your shoes and stuff like that. Assuming they don’t have something highly contagious like c diff or deadly like rabies etc.

 

[mani]

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[silent meowlook]

Love and hugs to all, hope the kitties and you are ok. That is great Shanky does not have FPV.

when I bring the outdoor cats inside they go into a drop trap which they have some room to move around in and they have a litter pan, food and water. I clean it out and I talk to them…it’s also a good thing to do not only for quarantining but for a cat who is not totally tame because it calms them and makes them feel safe.

For the first time I have not done that with my most recent cat coming inside, cinnamon, who came inside about three weeks ago. I ended up putting him in a small bathroom. And I’m a little worried that it actually is slowing down his taming process. He was also peeing all over the place and created a big mess before I realized it but now he’s using his litter pans.

I would not say my system is full proof because nothing is 100% but I think it’s pretty good probably- it’s certainly better than the DVM ER hospital that I took Merlin to when he had C. difficile and has been having trouble going to the bathroom in his stomach was all hard and bloated.

They sent him home in the carrier with poop all over him and lied to me about it. Unbelievable I’ve never seen anything like that in my life. All they had to do was wash him off but they didn’t want to do it. Not only that, they carried him all over the hospital doing x-rays and infected their whole hospital…contaminated possibly themselves and other pets with C. difficile.

And they knew he had C Diff because I told them that when I brought him there. Some idiot there actually said when I first came in: is it a guess that he has c diff… wth? Who guesses their cat has C diff? I replied no it was confirmed with a PCR test.

So they also exposed me and my family etc. ….when I got home because I didn’t know that he had poop still all over him and his paws and I was letting him walk around so I had to spend hours de-contaminating my home. I had to give him a bath on the floor pouring water on him in the studio where he was. Suddenly I looked at his legs which have white stockings and mittens and the hind legs had poop all over them so I realized it then. His fur was a bit odd and was kind of smooshed and stuff and I thought it was because they had washed them and it was drying.

What happened was he had pooped on himself in the carrier on the way there and I thought he had vomited. And they actually lied to me about it and tried to send him home right away. DVM said that his stomach wasn’t swollen and hard anymore. But I insisted that they do some x-rays because I was still worried.

And then when I finally talk to the Dvm or she admitted to me that he had pooped explosive D all over the carrier and I said oh I guess that’s why his stomach is back to normal now. light bulb moment. They Actually tried to send him home right away and not charge me and they were lying about everything.

Unbelievable. Then I had to beg them to clean him off because I didn’t trust them at all anymore by that point, and the woman at the front desk says to me oh we don’t do that here!

But they told me that they had cleaned him later when they hadn’t. I don’t know what they did to him but they certainly didn’t wash him which is all they had to do which would’ve been very easy to do. I told my regular DVM and one of the techs there said she couldn’t believe it… that was totally unacceptable, and she said she had actually worked there before and she had never seen anything like that there and it was not true that “ they don’t do that here”

so I guess it is their policy now to let their patients be carried around the hospital with highly infectious poop all over them, contaminate everything, and then send them home with poop on them while lying about it. and let them sit around in their poop….unbelievable!

No excuse for that. Lazy stupid uncaring.

 

[mani]

Hah, interesting. Yeah, Mani and Nila are meaningful Tamil names, hence I thought so.
Well, they didn't have any contact with each other since Terry's fever, but I was the common factor. Anways, we suspect it was the mosquitoes that spread the disease.

That's interesting.. I thought Tamil and Sanskrit were quite different languages.

How is Terry's wound? I'm thinking that must be OK?

 

[Meowmee]

No excuse for that. Lazy stupid uncaring.

It was also grossly negligent. I should have reported them but I know that never comes to anything here.

 

[silent meowlook]

Unfortunately, Veterinarians are regulated by other Veterinarians. So, it has to be something like a license issue or control drug issue for much to happen. Even then it is usually fines. At least in the US that is what I have found to be the case. I think they are getting better about it but....

 

[Alldara]

Unfortunately, Veterinarians are regulated by other Veterinarians. So, it has to be something like a license issue or control drug issue for much to happen. Even then it is usually fines. At least in the US that is what I have found to be the case. I think they are getting better about it but....

There's huge issues with being regulated by those who don't have an understanding of the feild too unfortunately. We have such bad issues with healthcare and education where I am right now because those that regulate it don't have healthcare or child development backgrounds.

 

[silent meowlook]

There's huge issues with being regulated by those who don't have an understanding of the feild too unfortunately. We have such bad issues with healthcare and education where I am right now because those that regulate it don't have healthcare or child development backgrounds.

Very true. If everyone would do the “ right” thing ...

 

[Margot Lane]

Is Terry OK?

 

[Nilo]

Hi folks, how have you all been?
Sorry for the late update. We're all doing better.
Both of them have been eating and drinking decently. And taking their meds like good kitties.

Terry's blood test results:
Hb - 7.0
WBC - 31.7
RBC - 4.54
PLT - 82
All of these values have improved slightly in the last 4 days. Vet's happy with Terry's progress.

Shanky:
Shanky's doing pretty normal. She's completely back to her very naughty, playful self, and is eating more than usual (a poor eater previously), which is great.

Concerns regarding Terry:

• On Jan 3, Terry weighed 2.23 kg. On Jan 11, Terry weighs just 1.77 kg.
• Terry's having bouts of sneezing for 1-2 days now. And the number of sneezes have been increasing steadily. We're now at 1 bout of 5 sneezes almost every hour. Especially after eating or drinking. But my vet told there's nothing new to do, URIs are usually given the same antibiotics anyways. So they dismissed it.
• Terry's shivering now and then. We're not sure why. It is relatively cold with fog since it's winter, but it's not cold enough to be shivering (>= 25 degs C). Maybe it's cause he's lost most of his fat sources that are supposed to keep him warm.
• He's still unable to walk straight. But he's getting strong enough to go around the house exploring a bit. It's difficult to watch him.
• Terry might have fleas. I checked him thoroughly for hours, I could not spot any moving black dots. But there is a tiny new wound on his back caused by biting and hair loss, that looks very suspicious. I do not have any prior experience with fleas, I've just seen online tutorials, so I might be missing things that are obvious to you people. Anyways, the vet said not to give him any flea treatment at the moment (through chemicals), and wait until he gets better.

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I am sorry that is a regular thing there you all have to deal with. When I told people about this they told me they’ve had things like that happen here too so it’s not like it never happens here but you’re right I don’t think it’s a common event that happens every time you go to the DVM or a hospital. However there is still a lot of negligence here too sadly.

there’s always a lot of anxiety with all of these situations and it’s hard to tell how much of it is our anxiety versus the cat’s or whatever. If you’re actually trapping a cat which is what I had to do because these cats are not touchable they definitely get anxious in the beginning but over time they start to calm down and they learn that the cage is a safe place for them… so you can slowly start to interact with them through the cage and let them learn that you are not going to be a threat to them.

Each cat is different so you never know how they’re going to react. but for a cat that cannot be touched or that has to be quarantined it’s really a necessity I think.

The reason I have not used small bathrooms before is I did not want the cats to be in the larger part of the house and if the cat was aggressive I did not want to have to worry about getting them into a carrier to go to the DVM. In the drop trap I have, the carrier attaches to the trap and then I can get them to go in there with towels and a divider. So I don’t have to worry about getting injured and I think it’s also less stressful than trying to pick the cat up with a towel and get them into the carrier.

I was told about the caging technique many years ago by a woman who did a lot of TNR and taming of Feral Cats. Another technique you can use if you put them in a little room is to give them a box or place that they can kind of hide themselves where they feel safe. The thing is a lot of these cats feel scared of people so they have to be able to feel safe from you first in order to start calming down.

With a cat who is tame and touchable it is a totally different story. They can easily be quarantined in a small room by themselves and then you just have to be careful about washing your hands and changing your shoes and stuff like that. Assuming they don’t have something highly contagious like c diff or deadly like rabies etc.

Thank you for understanding.

Hmm, I see. I feel much better about it after hearing from you. Thank you for explaining. Guess I'll start doing the same if I get another cat.

Where do you keep the cage? To prevent the house cats contacting them, they have to be placed in a non-accessible place, right?
Also how do you go about changing your clothes and shoes? Do you have a set to wear inside? How often do you wash the set? Where do you change - inside or outside the room?

If I want to sterilize a stray cat, provide some aftercare, then release them back, do I have to do the quarantine before the surgery, get them tested and stuff? Or is it sufficient if I directly start with the surgery pre-testing and quarantine them during their stay?

That's interesting.. I thought Tamil and Sanskrit were quite different languages.

How is Terry's wound? I'm thinking that must be OK?

Yes, they are different. They've still got some common words, as they're both over 2000 years old and new words must have been added in parallel.
Mani and Nila are used as names very commonly and exclusively by Tamil people. But Nila and Nilah are different ig. Sundar's also more common in south India than north India. Not sure why. Anyways, great names!

Terry's wound has dried up. So I guess it's ok.

Is Terry OK?

Aww Yep, he is. Hope you're doing well

 

[Meowmee]

Hi folks, how have you all been?
Sorry for the late update. We're all doing better.
Both of them have been eating and drinking decently. And taking their meds like good kitties.

Terry's blood test results:
Hb - 7.0
WBC - 31.7
RBC - 4.54
PLT - 82
All of these values have improved slightly in the last 4 days. Vet's happy with Terry's progress.

Shanky:
Shanky's doing pretty normal. She's completely back to her very naughty, playful self, and is eating more than usual (a poor eater previously), which is great.

Concerns regarding Terry:

• On Jan 3, Terry weighed 2.23 kg. On Jan 11, Terry weighs just 1.77 kg.
• Terry's having bouts of sneezing for 1-2 days now. And the number of sneezes have been increasing steadily. We're now at 1 bout of 5 sneezes almost every hour. Especially after eating or drinking. But my vet told there's nothing new to do, URIs are usually given the same antibiotics anyways. So they dismissed it.
• Terry's shivering now and then. We're not sure why. It is relatively cold with fog since it's winter, but it's not cold enough to be shivering (>= 25 degs C). Maybe it's cause he's lost most of his fat sources that are supposed to keep him warm.
• He's still unable to walk straight. But he's getting strong enough to go around the house exploring a bit. It's difficult to watch him.
• Terry might have fleas. I checked him thoroughly for hours, I could not spot any moving black dots. But there is a tiny new wound on his back caused by biting and hair loss, that looks very suspicious. I do not have any prior experience with fleas, I've just seen online tutorials, so I might be missing things that are obvious to you people. Anyways, the vet said not to give him any flea treatment at the moment (through chemicals), and wait until he gets better.

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Thank you for understanding.

Hmm, I see. I feel much better about it after hearing from you. Thank you for explaining. Guess I'll start doing the same if I get another cat.

Where do you keep the cage? To prevent the house cats contacting them, they have to be placed in a non-accessible place, right?
Also how do you go about changing your clothes and shoes? Do you have a set to wear inside? How often do you wash the set? Where do you change - inside or outside the room?

If I want to sterilize a stray cat, provide some aftercare, then release them back, do I have to do the quarantine before the surgery, get them tested and stuff? Or is it sufficient if I directly start with the surgery pre-testing and quarantine them during their stay?


Yes, they are different. They've still got some common words, as they're both over 2000 years old and new words must have been added in parallel.
Mani and Nila are used as names very commonly and exclusively by Tamil people. But Nila and Nilah are different ig. Sundar's also more common in south India than north India. Not sure why. Anyways, great names!

Terry's wound has dried up. So I guess it's ok.


Aww Yep, he is. Hope you're doing well

I am so glad they are doing better! But that sounds worrisome about Terry and the weight loss etc. Can they give him something to fatten him up a bit? Hugs to all I always go straight to tnr surgery as soon as possible. usually the morning after trapping.. the quarantine is for after to make sure they are not ill and protect other cats. Testing and all the treatment such as vaccines, exams etc. is done while they are under because they are mostly not tame, touchable cats. You can bring poop samples in too.

Again, if it is a tame cat, you do not need sedation for an exam etc. or a caged quarantine.When I first started doing tnr before it was even called that... I had mostly touchable, tame cats and just brought them to dvm etc. I didn't really do quarantine then either, but most were released fairly quickly or we took them in. Many of my cats came from outside and shelters etc.Quinn, my meezer, is the only pb non rescue cat I have ever had.

 

[Nilo]

I am so glad they are doing better! But that sounds worrisome about Terry and the weight loss etc. Can they give him something to fatten him up a bit? Hugs to all I always go straight to tnr surgery as soon as possible. usually the morning after trapping.. the quarantine is for after to make sure they are not ill and protect other cats. Testing and all the treatment such as vaccines, exams etc. is done while they are under because they are mostly not tame, touchable cats. You can bring poop samples in too.

Again, if it is a tame cat, you do not need sedation for an exam etc. or a caged quarantine.When I first started doing tnr before it was even called that... I had mostly touchable, tame cats and just brought them to dvm etc. I didn't really do quarantine then either, but most were released fairly quickly or we took them in. Many of my cats came from outside and shelters etc.Quinn, my meezer, is the only pb non rescue cat I have ever had.

Well, idk. I didn't particularly ask, but what could there be apart from nutritious food. I'm just glad he's eating again, he eats quite frequently last couple of days. Little bit every hour or two. Recovery contains the most nutrition in the least amount apparently, but Terry doesn't like it :|

He used to be a heavy eater before, I'm sure he'll catch up once he beats his infection. We're just praying the infection stops soon. Also, the vet said that in cases like his, it's possible for the infection to occur again immediately even if Terry beats them the first time. So, after the antibiotics are stopped, he told to give a break for a week, then repeat them all for 1 more week.

Oh, wow, that's what TNR was. I just googled the acronym now. Thanks for introducing me to it. Now I'll know what to search for.
I see. I have some friendly stray cats in mind, but I'm sure they won't be tame at the vet, and they're bound to be carriers of infections or parasites.
Yeah, I don't want to have any cats for myself. I just want to rescue the stray ones, they deserve better lives.

 

[Nilo]

Poor Terry, I am glad he is eating a bit and you were able to get help. What did they give him? I did not know that cats could take any of those drugs, or maybe had forgotten. for him

It's Analgin.

 

[Caspers Human]

I think you are confusing viruses, these kittens have panleukopenia, (fpv) feline parvo virus not fip.

 

[Nilo]

How have you all been doing?
There was nothing to update for a while. Things were going as usual. But today was different.

Terry's made a large bleeding wound in his body. Remember when I told Terry's been biting himself at a spot, and I suspected fleas. I applied apple cider vinegar on it. And he stopped biting for a while. Now, it's open and bleeding, and much deeper. He must have been biting despite all the pain. What do I do? I can't see the vet for a while.

I'm under a lot of duress. So my family took care of him for a day. And they skipped 1 dose of all medicines, and 1 tablet in 1 other dose. And they forgot to apply apple cider vinegar despite me telling them multiple times. What's the worst thing that can happen now because of my absence? What happens if meds are skipped for 24-36 hours? What can happen due to an open wound that's just now been bandaged up? Even the bandage is not sticking properly, it's loose. I feel so upset.

 

[Nilo]

Left: Image right now. Orange color tint is from the ointment we applied.
Right: Same wound taken 2-3 days ago.What do the lines connecting everything mean?

The left image is zoomed on the curved wound line on the bottom part of the right image. The upper right part remains the same.
The multiple tiny wounds on the top right were present a week ago. My vet and I assumed they were from the needles. Then the patch on the bottom left appeared. Only after that, the line connecting them appeared.
It's progressively getting worser and I don't know what to do.
Can someone please guide me.

I'm especially worried because I once knew a dog that got bitten and had a similar sized wound and it was deep enough to see her insides. And she died within 2 days.

 

[silent meowlook]

Hi. Only have a minute.
If it was my cat with a wound like that, I would stop applying anything to it. Bandaging cats is almost impossible without making things worse. If using clay litter, switch to paper. If he is chewing it, he needs a cone to stop him. If you don’t have one, you can make one out of a paper plate.

It is very important to not stress him. I know, there is a fine line between doing more damage than good. It’s hard to know where that is.

Get him back to the vet ASAP.

Regarding the missed meds, it doesn’t matter. What is done is done and you can’t go back. Just give on schedule from now on, if you can.