Is this kitten a Scottish fold?

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The owner says the two adults are his parents, but they dont share the same coat, etc. Does the kitten still look like a Scottish fold?
 

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If they’re the parents, avoid this breeder like the plague. Breeding two cats with folded ears is highly unethical (and not allowed in most, if not all registries) as at least 1/4th (assuming they’re not homozygous themselves) of the kittens will be homozygous for the fold gene, which makes them much MUCH more likely to have a severe form of a debilitating joint condition called OCD.

The parents are also both poor type for the breed (wrong eye shape, ears only have a single fold, rather than the triple fold seen in show and breed quality animals), though that comes *far* second to these horrendous breeding practices.
 
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If they’re the parents, avoid this breeder like the plague. Breeding two cats with folded ears is highly unethical (and not allowed in most, if not all registries) as at least 1/4th (assuming they’re not homozygous themselves) of the kittens will be homozygous for the fold gene, which makes them much MUCH more likely to have a severe form of a debilitating joint condition called OCD.

The parents are also both poor type for the breed (wrong eye shape, ears only have a single fold, rather than the triple fold seen in show and breed quality animals), though that comes *far* second to these horrendous breeding practices.
Okay thanks youre a life saver
 
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If they’re the parents, avoid this breeder like the plague. Breeding two cats with folded ears is highly unethical (and not allowed in most, if not all registries) as at least 1/4th (assuming they’re not homozygous themselves) of the kittens will be homozygous for the fold gene, which makes them much MUCH more likely to have a severe form of a debilitating joint condition called OCD.

The parents are also both poor type for the breed (wrong eye shape, ears only have a single fold, rather than the triple fold seen in show and breed quality animals), though that comes *far* second to these horrendous breeding practices.
The owner says the grandma is domestic, making it much healthier. would this be true?
 

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The owner says the grandma is domestic, making it much healthier. would this be true?
No. They’re still breeding fold to fold. Reputable breeders don’t randomly outcross to domestics, either. They aim to produce healthy kittens conforming to breed standard that come with all relevant paperwork.

If you want a pedigree, please find a reputable breeder, not search for kittens through Craigslist or whatever other ad platforms are locally relevant to you. You want a breeder registered with TICA, CFA, or whatever cat fancy organisation is local to you. You want the breeder to do all the relevant tests for the breed, both genetic and screening. You want them to sell kittens no sooner than 12 weeks, already vaccinated and neutered (bare minimum contract to be neutered no later than 5 months). You want the breeder to show their animals. Generally a red flag if they have kittens available without a waitlist. Red flag if they advertise on sketchy websites rather than using a website/Facebook/Instagram. Red flag if they’re willing to sell entire to anyone who asks for an extra fee. Red flag if they advertise kittens to be from “show lines”, and try to charge extra for that, especially if they don’t show themselves. Also big red flag is kittens come without papers because they’re “just meant to be pets”.

If you want a cat for under 1-2k USD, please just support a good local shelter — don’t support BYBs. They don’t breed for love of and desire to better the breed, or even for the love of cats. People buying cats from them is the reason they still exist.

ETA: the grandma, singular, is a domestic? So the kittens are inbred, to boot? Also, a pedigree having a domestic ion their heritage doesn’t make them automatically healthier, given moggies can be genetically sickly, as well. Heart issues aren’t rarer in moggies than pedigrees, for example. According to my cats’ cardiologist, who sees a lot of Maine coon, most of her patients with HCM are moggies.
 
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Folds do need outcross with non fold carriers. So the grandma moggie isnt not biologically any disadvantage. But if the outcross isnt allowed, it will be difficult to register kittens as purebred.
 

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They do need outcrosses with non-folds, but the grandmother is irrelevant, given the parents are both folds.
 
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