Injection site inflamation

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Hello,
My cat is scheduled to have a lump of inflamatory cells, cause by a vaccine, removed in a few days. Fine needle aspiration and cytology don't show any cancer cells, just inflamatory cells. I can't seem to find any information about similar situations where cancer isn't present but inflamatory cells are. All information I find is for when cancer is confirmed. I'm trying not to read to much into that, because it is pretty upsetting.
My cat will be 2 in March and was vaccinated about 6 months ago with his annual vaccines.
Has anyone had a similar experience? What is recovery like for removing a marble sized lump over the hind left leg?

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I don't have direct experience, but I can tell you that inflammatory cells CAN become cancerous, and that your attention and quick reaction is the best thing possible for your cat. If there are just inflammatory cells, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about going forward (but you love your cat, and you're going to be watching every move he makes, anyway...). At his age, he should recover fairly quickly, and be back to normal within a couple of weeks, if all goes well.

Best of luck to you both, and let us know how he does!
 
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Thanks! I think it was caught early enough, and hopefully this surgery will be the end of it. From here on out he will only get rabies vaccinations every 3 years, so hopefully reducing the vaccination schedule will prevent this from happening again.
 

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Hi.
I answered you on the other thread about injection site sarcoma. I used to give my cats fancy feast and they loved it but the oncologist said that’s like giving them Fritos! Luna now eats royal canin at 3x the cost of fancy feast but oh well. She also has science diet dry food. Cancer feeds on carbs and those foods are more balanced distribution for cats.

From my long ago cat Sterling who had kidney disease at 17 years, I learned no cats ( at least in Florida where our water isn’t good) should drink tap water. Luna drinks bottled Zephryhills or Nestles spring water.
 

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While we all want to give our cats the ideal, most healthy diet possible, do be aware that there are literally hundreds of opinions on what that might be. Take time, look at ingredients, choose the best you can find IN YOUR PRICE RANGE and that your cat will eat. I grew up a good while ago, and had many cats who lived for years very healthily on Little Friskies, Fancy Feast, and Purina (both wet and dry), because those were, at the time, the very best available for our cats.
 

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Thanks! I think it was caught early enough, and hopefully this surgery will be the end of it. From here on out he will only get rabies vaccinations every 3 years, so hopefully reducing the vaccination schedule will prevent this from happening again.
Just to let you know that if you want to continue vaccinating for FVRCP, the nasal vaccine can be used - that’s something my cats got to minimize sarcoma’s risk.
All the best to you kitty!

Hi.
I answered you on the other thread about injection site sarcoma. I used to give my cats fancy feast and they loved it but the oncologist said that’s like giving them Fritos! Luna now eats royal canin at 3x the cost of fancy feast but oh well. She also has science diet dry food. Cancer feeds on carbs and those foods are more balanced distribution for cats.
Fancy Feast classic pate line is low carb and pretty decent for the price, personally I don’t think it’s worse than any Royal Canin, as I’ve never seen Royal Canin that is high in animal protein&low in carbs.
 

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Just to let you know that if you want to continue vaccinating for FVRCP, the nasal vaccine can be used - that’s something my cats got to minimize sarcoma’s risk.
All the best to you kitty!


Fancy Feast classic pate line is low carb and pretty decent for the price, personally I don’t think it’s worse than any Royal Canin, as I’ve never seen Royal Canin that is high in animal protein&low in carbs.
Yes the came out with that after her surgery. My vet and the oncologist said either science diet or royal canin so that’s what I do. She’s been good so far on that so I don’t want to mess with that. She was vomiting on the old fancy feast.
 

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While we all want to give our cats the ideal, most healthy diet possible, do be aware that there are literally hundreds of opinions on what that might be. Take time, look at ingredients, choose the best you can find IN YOUR PRICE RANGE and that your cat will eat. I grew up a good while ago, and had many cats who lived for years very healthily on Little Friskies, Fancy Feast, and Purina (both wet and dry), because those were, at the time, the very best available for our cats.
I know. I grew up with an indoor outdoor cat who lived 23 years on whatever was sold back in those times. I’m only sharing what I was told since Luna is considered halfway to being a long term survivor. This was the tried and true recommendation from her specialist I’ve already dropped a lot of money on so I go with it.
 
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Surgery was done, I will have biopsy results in a few days. He will have his staples removed in 2 weeks. Archie is surprisingly active and lively, a little anxious but he has an appetite and going to the bathroom. His brother didn't recognize him when we got back and they are now separated to avoid conflict. I was prepared for that but didn't expect it to take more than a few hours or be so dramatic.


Thank you everyone for the comments! It has really helped me. Archie says thanks too!
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Surgery was done, I will have biopsy results in a few days. He will have his staples removed in 2 weeks. Archie is surprisingly active and lively, a little anxious but he has an appetite and going to the bathroom. His brother didn't recognize him when we got back and they are now separated to avoid conflict. I was prepared for that but didn't expect it to take more than a few hours or be so dramatic.


Thank you everyone for the comments! It has really helped me. Archie says thanks too!View attachment 312874
Poor sweetie.
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Still waiting on the pathology report. I called today and they said it could take up to 2 weeks... But he is getting better every day, and handling the cone better than I thought. It took 3 days until I could have him walk free in a room with his brother, and 6 until they were cuddling and grooming eachother again. Felt like forever but I'm so relieved they are back to normal.
 

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One of my girls had a lump develop as a reaction to her vaccination injection. Other than a couple follow up visits the vet didn’t do anything and it disappeared on its own after a month or two.
 

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hey, we never heard your results? all ok with your beauty?
 

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Still waiting on the pathology report. I called today and they said it could take up to 2 weeks... But he is getting better every day, and handling the cone better than I thought. It took 3 days until I could have him walk free in a room with his brother, and 6 until they were cuddling and grooming eachother again. Felt like forever but I'm so relieved they are back to normal.
let us know results?
 

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Thanks! I think it was caught early enough, and hopefully this surgery will be the end of it. From here on out he will only get rabies vaccinations every 3 years, so hopefully reducing the vaccination schedule will prevent this from happening again.
Check what kind of rabies vaccine they are using. My clinic stopped the 3 year old Rabies vaccine and replaced it with the Purevax 1 year Rabies vaccine as it is much safer due to less adjuvant and other ingredients in it. Apparently the ingredients used to boost the vaccine to make it last 3 years were determined to be unsafe and more likely to cause cancer. We still use it on outdoor barn cats but never on house cats. I think this is a case where the frequency of vaccine is less worrisome than the ingredients in that vaccine. At bare minimum do your own research on it before just switching to a 3 year vaccine.
 

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From what I’ve read we aren’t definite if it’s the ingredients in the vaccine or the reaction of the injection that stimulates the cells. Unfortunately feline cancer isn’t a money maker and research is slower than in humans or even dogs. I believe the last major research was in 2017. We need more veterinary students to research this.
 

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It was also believed possibly to be a combination of ingredients and needle injection. Conjectures. Luna first developed a lump a year after her last vaccine but 2 months after the death of her beloved cat companion. I can’t help feeling the added stress and distress played a role as well.
 
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Got results back! It took a while because of the holidays. The pathology report said it is panniculitis, and there was no cancer, which is a relief. I wasn't given a cause but because of the location and timing, vaccination is most likely. The vet hasn't really told me more. I think a reduced vaccine schedule is still being recomended, to not have this happen again.
 

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Got results back! It took a while because of the holidays. The pathology report said it is panniculitis, and there was no cancer, which is a relief. I wasn't given a cause but because of the location and timing, vaccination is most likely. The vet hasn't really told me more. I think a reduced vaccine schedule is still being recomended, to not have this happen again.
Not only vaccines may cause it but any injections. That’s why I avoid anything injected like antibiotics and other medications.

Apparently the ingredients used to boost the vaccine to make it last 3 years were determined to be unsafe and more likely to cause cancer.
I haven’t found any information about this and my vet is unaware of any or such findings, if you have any source of this information, please share. In fact the Internet seems to suggest that one year Purevax is in fact the same as three year Purevax but it’s simply labeled differently. My understanding is that the injection itself may cause sarcoma and not the injected ingredients. Unless you mean any other type of cancer?
 
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