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Visbiome doesn’t have SB and it doesn’t have MOS. These two are powerhouses against diarrhea and bowel disease. It’s probably not helping. It’s like trying to seed a garden that’s been overrun by weeds. You have to weed first or they’ll remain the more dominant competition for resources. You weed your cat’s gut garden with SB and MOS. Think of them like scrubbing bubbles for the gut. They mimic gut lining cells which is what these pathogens feed on. Then they’re sequestered in this decoy gut (SB/MOS) and pooped on out. Along the way, there are other properties of the SB/MOS combination that, for lack of a better analogy, give the gut a therapeutic massage as it’s passing through. It cleans and it promotes good health. When he’s eating better and pooping better, there’s a Gut Restore Supplement from AnimalBiome that is head and shoulders above any probiotic on the market. But it’s probably too much for him right now. Order a bottle of Jarrow (or pick it up at a Whole Foods or other vitamin shop), and aim for 1/4 capsule twice a day. Or more frequently if you can get it in him easy enough (either in food or a re-packed capsule that he can eat with food.) You can under-do it. But it’s really hard to overdo it. More frequent administration could help bring him to solid poops faster. When I was getting Krista through clostridium, she was eating 1/4 capsule 4 or 6 times a day. She loved the taste. I would simply mix up a couple of yeast balls with food and let her eat those. Then she could have the rest of her meal unadulterated.daftcat75 I do have Visbiome probiotics that i try to sprinkle on their food. Any thought if that is comparable? Everyone speaks highly of it being one of the top brands. I'm just not sure they get enough to make a difference sprinkled over food. But the capsule is HUGE. There is no way he can physically eat one.
OK, that makes sense. Probably what it is. I remember with the pred that if you get things stable you try to back the dose down to something lower to manage it. I didn't give the gabapentin yet since he was sleeping soundly and eating/drinking so far. I planned to wait for gabapentin only if he looks to be in discomfort.Pred at the higher doses (5 mg and up) can cause lethargy in cats. That slow mope, out-of-it look could be the pred. If he's also on gabapentin, that will certainly knock him over. I believe the liquid gabapentin I have but never used because Betty will take her own capsules is 50 mg/ml. From my trial and error with her, 50 is still too much and turns her into a bag of jello. 25 is the sweet spot where she finishes her portions (suspected dental pain) but isn't knocked over.
Thanks, that's exactly it of what I'm going through. It's tough on a person.I'm so sorry your going through this, IBD/Lymphoma can be such a battle. Some cats respond well to medication/supplements/food change, and sometimes they don't. I know all too well about those sleepless nights, constant worrying, and checking on them all the time.
Sending you hugs and prayers that your fur baby gets better.![]()
This is excellent news. He is eating, drinking, and now his poo is no longer pure liquid. I don't want to give false hope in case anything happens, but it sounds like your little boy is getting better.Thanks, that's exactly it of what I'm going through. It's tough on a person.
He is still eating and drinking good. Finally went to the bathroom after 13 hours. I don't know if I'd say it was 100% liquid like it has been but almost maybe pudding this time. The lethargy is hard to watch too.![]()
I spoke too soon. He went in the middle of the night and it was still liquid. Quick questionPudding is progress. Still going to recommend the s. boulardii. Even if I’m wrong about the gut bugs theory, it’s still going to be helpful for ongoing treatment of IBD/lymphoma.
As for the chemo, you don’t have to give it right away. Give the pred a chance. Discuss with the specialist how long a chance though. Don’t simply pred and pray. Decide when you need to bring in bigger guns and that’s not more pred. In the meantime, pred will give him the munchies. Use that to your favor to explore different foods.
I also get size fives (even smaller) for repacking pills. Betty takes everything by capsule because she will take it on her own. Willingly. Eagerly. She doesn’t always eat at those medicine meals. I can usually get her to eat a few bites off the carpet just so she has some padding for the meds. But when those meds kick in, she’s good to return and finish her plate. Once a week, Sunday mornings, I cut up Betty’s ondansetron and pred and pack them into orange (ondansetron) and purple (pred) capsules. This makes meds time 5am-proof when she gets her morning meds.Yes, good call on the smaller pill capsules. Before long, I'm going to be stocked like a vet's office! ha
Awesome, thanks for the explanations. Your dedication is amazing!I also get size fives (even smaller) for repacking pills. Betty takes everything by capsule because she will take it on her own. Willingly. Eagerly. She doesn’t always eat at those medicine meals. I can usually get her to eat a few bites off the carpet just so she has some padding for the meds. But when those meds kick in, she’s good to return and finish her plate. Once a week, Sunday mornings, I cut up Betty’s ondansetron and pred and pack them into orange (ondansetron) and purple (pred) capsules. This makes meds time 5am-proof when she gets her morning meds.I also use a size 4 capsule filling machine (Etsy seller MYHERBAR), to split four 100 mg capsules into sixteen doses for the week. Once a month, I turn twelve of those HUGE Jarrow capsules into 50 cat sized capsules. My weekly meds take about 30 to 45 minutes depending on how long I spend trying to get those gabapentin lines even before I push them into the capsules. The monthly SB takes about 20 to 30 minutes.
I studied biochemistry in college and left for a different profession when I graduated. I thought I enjoyed learning it more than doing it. But here I am. I’m my cat’s chemist every week.![]()
Can you hide the pill in a capsule and try this: dip the capsule in food and drop that morsel on the carpet for him. He doesn't get his meal until he successfully scoops and swallows that capsule. I suspect he's finding the pill in the food, and because it is on a plate, it offers no resistance to what I call the lick and flick: lick the food off it, flick the pill. He won't be able to lick and flick on a carpet. And if you put the pill in a capsule, he never has to taste it. He will learn to scoop and swallow because you'll keep trying it with him before giving him his meal.Well, the hiding pill in food thing only worked two days. Figured that would happen. Gonna have to syringe the prednisolone from now on. Does it hurt to switch back and forth from pill to liquid?