Help finding best non prescription food for CKD cat

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Regarding phosphorus and kidney kitties, we're all doing the best we can with the information we have available. Here again as with iodine, I strongly disagree with the AAFCO about not having maximum limit requirements.
I so agree with this---also wish the food companies would treat phosphorus percentage as important as protein and carb content and put in on the labels. So much time spent tracking down the information.
 

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Thank you for all if the info, so appreciated! Since my kitty now does not want the HIll's prescription k/d, I am grateful for the research. done by others. To misterginja..I treid Stella and Chewy's this week, and she will not eat it. I did find that she loves Weruva Truluxe Steak Frites and the new Weruva Wx Phos Focus Chicken Formula. The Wx Phos Focus says it is not a complete food. And thoughts on this? I tried mixing it with Hill's k/d, but she leaves the k/d behind. Also tried Dave's Low Phosphorus, does not like it. Will try a few more on the list. She still likes Tiki Cat Ater Dark, but it is a little higher in phosphorus. Trial and error.
 

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Wx Phos Focus says it is not a complete food. And thoughts on this?
I spoke with a rep at Weruva last year. The AAFCO required them to add that statement because the phos is actually lower than AAFCO minimum requirements. All the other nutrients in it are complete.
 

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I spoke with a rep at Weruva last year. The AAFCO required them to add that statement because the phos is actually lower than AAFCO minimum requirements. All the other nutrients in it are complete.
Great, thank you!! She certainly gobbled it down 😁
 

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Maybe these will help.

Resources for CKD Cats - Protein & Phosphorous Information on Non-Prescription Commercial Cat Food

Thank you so much for this info!!!
 

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I spoke with a rep at Weruva last year. The AAFCO required them to add that statement because the phos is actually lower than AAFCO minimum requirements. All the other nutrients in it are complete.
Thanks for this info! Same as R Rosies Mom I was unsure about the Weruva Wx Phos Focused, at the nearby pet store they said it was meant only as a topper to a more nutritionally complete food, so I didn't buy it. Good to know that's not the case. I think Weruva should word it differently on the label, it confuses a lot of people...
 

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:yeah: :agree:

iodine can be particularly challenging to nail down in brands - they don't often list that one :( I'm like you, I'm not clear as to how it acts or reacts with the thyroid, but I'm beginning to lean towards keeping it as low as I can even though Captain has no issues at this time.
Hi, I know this is an older thread, but wanted to update that my 11 year old cat, who never had thyroid issues in his life, has developed hyperthyroidism during the time he's been eating the Stella and Chewy's canned food which is high in iodine. So although HyperT can be caused by many factors, it's hard to ignore that this diet change is corresponding to the timing of his health issues. Been trying to find foods with lower iodine (not restricting it), but staying away from these foods that have an excess amount of it.
 

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Take a look at Weruva.com. They don't list it in the nutritional information pages on their website but their representative told me that they are careful to keep the iodine levels at the lowest that the AAFCO allows.
Thank you, Weruva is definitely on my list, I've been making a spreadsheet of all the foods I can find from Tanya's and other sites, and also crossing off the ones too high in phosphorus (due to CKD), and too high in carbs, with ingredients that are known to upset his GI system. Almost nothing left to eat...it also hasn't worked out with the vet nutritionist, the recipes seemed healthy but my boy got such digestive upset from only eating a portion of it...didn't do well with the rice and oats. We always do super slow transitions too... this is so difficult. Keeping at it.
 

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The same thing applies to lower phosphorus - with no verifiable evidence that restricting it in healthy cats does anything to prevent CKD.
Restricting phos in healthy cats may not prevent CKD, however, according to this 2018 study, excess phosphorus "...can be deleterious to kidney function in healthy cats."

Animal nutrition: Excess phosphorus damages the kidney

"A new study carried out by Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet (LMU) in Munich veterinarians shows that high phosphorus intake, comparable to the average level provided by prepared cat food, can be deleterious to kidney function in healthy cats."
 

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L lisamarie12 - I read the summary as per the link you provided. Are there there detailed analyses of the foods that cats ate and the related phosphorus levels of the foods eaten, both who did and did not contract CKD? Just curious.

There are likely many (food) contributors to the development of numerous other cat illnesses/diseases, such as diabetes, heart disease, arthritis, cancer, etc. These conditions are as prevalent in cats as is CKD, and I am sure the list of studies – extensive or not – go well beyond CKD.

As they say, with humans, you are what you eat. And, of course, genetics play a role as well. Likes and dislikes go a long way in what any of us will eat too, including cats.

I am glad you are taking a proactive role in researching the possible causes of CKD, and I presume you will do so for other common cat health issues, as well.

Safeguarding a cat’s health doesn’t begin and end with phosphorus. But, I guess it is a start.
Good ;luck to you !
 
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